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Scout October 8th 06 09:58 AM

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Anyone practicing safe sacks?

http://www.rlyachts.net/tips_boatbag.asp

Scout

katy October 8th 06 03:42 PM

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Scout wrote:
Anyone practicing safe sacks?

http://www.rlyachts.net/tips_boatbag.asp

Scout


that's really weird...never seen anything like it...people around here
either sail out to the SOund and careen or get a diver to clean their
bottom...

Scout October 8th 06 03:57 PM

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"katy" wrote in message
...
Scout wrote:
Anyone practicing safe sacks?
http://www.rlyachts.net/tips_boatbag.asp
Scout


that's really weird...never seen anything like it...people around here
either sail out to the SOund and careen or get a diver to clean their
bottom...


I wondered if marina owners might find some reason to be upset with the
system. Or, are there any ecological concerns?
Scout



katy October 8th 06 04:05 PM

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Scout wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...
Scout wrote:
Anyone practicing safe sacks?
http://www.rlyachts.net/tips_boatbag.asp
Scout

that's really weird...never seen anything like it...people around here
either sail out to the SOund and careen or get a diver to clean their
bottom...


I wondered if marina owners might find some reason to be upset with the
system. Or, are there any ecological concerns?
Scout


I would think that if it became a common practice that the dumping of
all that chlorine might be a problem...wonder what the EPA's stance on
it would be...

Scotty October 8th 06 04:20 PM

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looks like a lot of work compared to bottom painting every
other year.

SV


"Scout" wrote in message
...
Anyone practicing safe sacks?

http://www.rlyachts.net/tips_boatbag.asp

Scout



Joe October 8th 06 06:27 PM

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Scout wrote:
Anyone practicing safe sacks?


Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first...Second cant get water for the
AC's and head.

Joe

http://www.rlyachts.net/tips_boatbag.asp

Scout
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Gilligan October 8th 06 10:58 PM

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"katy" wrote in message
...
Scout wrote:
Anyone practicing safe sacks?
http://www.rlyachts.net/tips_boatbag.asp
Scout


that's really weird...never seen anything like it...people around here
either sail out to the SOund and careen or get a diver to clean their
bottom...


Sail a few miles up the Hudson and get that stuff stripped off for free. Go
a bit longer and the bottom paint will be removed. Go even further and you
won'r come back.



Scout October 9th 06 11:07 AM

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"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...

Scout wrote:
Anyone practicing safe sacks?


Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first...Second cant get water for the
AC's and head.


Good point Joe, I guess I hadn't consider the AC! I wonder though if it
still wouldn't work, that is, assuming the bag doesn't actually obstruct
your intake, I wonder if the heat transfer through the plastic would be
enough to keep the condensing water at or below design temp. As for the
head, I assume (uh-oh) that you mean water for the head which would end up
in your holding tank, and that you don't mean to say you're flushing your
waste into the marina waters (like we did in the 60's & 70's). In any
event, I would imagine enough make-up water would get into the bag.
It looks like too much trouble for me, and besides, I don't mind diving with
goggles and scraping, which I did with my Starwind. The worst thing that
ever happened was some serious leg cramping (as in charlie horse) while I
had my foot hooked under the keel to keep me from floating up. Painful
stuff.
Scout



Scotty October 9th 06 02:24 PM

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Scout, check out VC-17 bottom paint. Great stuff for
trailer sailors.

When's the maiden voyage?

Scotty


"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
"Joe" wrote in message

ups.com...

Scout wrote:
Anyone practicing safe sacks?


Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first...Second cant get

water for the
AC's and head.


Good point Joe, I guess I hadn't consider the AC! I

wonder though if it
still wouldn't work, that is, assuming the bag doesn't

actually obstruct
your intake, I wonder if the heat transfer through the

plastic would be
enough to keep the condensing water at or below design

temp. As for the
head, I assume (uh-oh) that you mean water for the head

which would end up
in your holding tank, and that you don't mean to say

you're flushing your
waste into the marina waters (like we did in the 60's &

70's). In any
event, I would imagine enough make-up water would get into

the bag.
It looks like too much trouble for me, and besides, I

don't mind diving with
goggles and scraping, which I did with my Starwind. The

worst thing that
ever happened was some serious leg cramping (as in charlie

horse) while I
had my foot hooked under the keel to keep me from floating

up. Painful
stuff.
Scout





Scout October 9th 06 02:34 PM

Boat Bags
 
Scotty,
It has an adequate coat of bottom paint for now but I'll keep the VC-17 in
mind. I'm not planning on trailering it more than once a year at this point
(between home and a marina). Takes all the fun out of it if I have to drop
the mast and pull it home every time. I have a place lined up for next
summer, in Tuckerton, NJ.
I've pressure washed the Gulf gunk off. Looks pretty good. Not sure when
I'll get my first voyage in, too much on my plate to worry about it but I'm
having fun figuring stuff out on the hard.
Scout


"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
Scout, check out VC-17 bottom paint. Great stuff for
trailer sailors.

When's the maiden voyage?

Scotty


"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
"Joe" wrote in message

ups.com...

Scout wrote:
Anyone practicing safe sacks?

Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first...Second cant get

water for the
AC's and head.


Good point Joe, I guess I hadn't consider the AC! I

wonder though if it
still wouldn't work, that is, assuming the bag doesn't

actually obstruct
your intake, I wonder if the heat transfer through the

plastic would be
enough to keep the condensing water at or below design

temp. As for the
head, I assume (uh-oh) that you mean water for the head

which would end up
in your holding tank, and that you don't mean to say

you're flushing your
waste into the marina waters (like we did in the 60's &

70's). In any
event, I would imagine enough make-up water would get into

the bag.
It looks like too much trouble for me, and besides, I

don't mind diving with
goggles and scraping, which I did with my Starwind. The

worst thing that
ever happened was some serious leg cramping (as in charlie

horse) while I
had my foot hooked under the keel to keep me from floating

up. Painful
stuff.
Scout







Scotty October 9th 06 02:52 PM

Boat Bags
 
Oh, NJ? ;(

Saw the big Seaward at the boat show, looked nice.

Scotty



"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
Scotty,
It has an adequate coat of bottom paint for now but I'll

keep the VC-17 in
mind. I'm not planning on trailering it more than once a

year at this point
(between home and a marina). Takes all the fun out of it

if I have to drop
the mast and pull it home every time. I have a place lined

up for next
summer, in Tuckerton, NJ.
I've pressure washed the Gulf gunk off. Looks pretty good.

Not sure when
I'll get my first voyage in, too much on my plate to worry

about it but I'm
having fun figuring stuff out on the hard.
Scout


"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
Scout, check out VC-17 bottom paint. Great stuff for
trailer sailors.

When's the maiden voyage?

Scotty


"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
"Joe" wrote in message


ups.com...

Scout wrote:
Anyone practicing safe sacks?

Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first...Second cant get

water for the
AC's and head.

Good point Joe, I guess I hadn't consider the AC! I

wonder though if it
still wouldn't work, that is, assuming the bag doesn't

actually obstruct
your intake, I wonder if the heat transfer through the

plastic would be
enough to keep the condensing water at or below design

temp. As for the
head, I assume (uh-oh) that you mean water for the head

which would end up
in your holding tank, and that you don't mean to say

you're flushing your
waste into the marina waters (like we did in the 60's &

70's). In any
event, I would imagine enough make-up water would get

into
the bag.
It looks like too much trouble for me, and besides, I

don't mind diving with
goggles and scraping, which I did with my Starwind. The

worst thing that
ever happened was some serious leg cramping (as in

charlie
horse) while I
had my foot hooked under the keel to keep me from

floating
up. Painful
stuff.
Scout









Scout October 9th 06 03:02 PM

Boat Bags
 
At least for a year so I can get my parents out sailing as much as
possible - it's only 20 minutes from their place. Ultimately I want to be in
the Chessy though.
Scout

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
Oh, NJ? ;(

Saw the big Seaward at the boat show, looked nice.

Scotty



"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
Scotty,
It has an adequate coat of bottom paint for now but I'll

keep the VC-17 in
mind. I'm not planning on trailering it more than once a

year at this point
(between home and a marina). Takes all the fun out of it

if I have to drop
the mast and pull it home every time. I have a place lined

up for next
summer, in Tuckerton, NJ.
I've pressure washed the Gulf gunk off. Looks pretty good.

Not sure when
I'll get my first voyage in, too much on my plate to worry

about it but I'm
having fun figuring stuff out on the hard.
Scout


"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
Scout, check out VC-17 bottom paint. Great stuff for
trailer sailors.

When's the maiden voyage?

Scotty


"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
"Joe" wrote in message


ups.com...

Scout wrote:
Anyone practicing safe sacks?

Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first...Second cant get
water for the
AC's and head.

Good point Joe, I guess I hadn't consider the AC! I
wonder though if it
still wouldn't work, that is, assuming the bag doesn't
actually obstruct
your intake, I wonder if the heat transfer through the
plastic would be
enough to keep the condensing water at or below design
temp. As for the
head, I assume (uh-oh) that you mean water for the head
which would end up
in your holding tank, and that you don't mean to say
you're flushing your
waste into the marina waters (like we did in the 60's &
70's). In any
event, I would imagine enough make-up water would get

into
the bag.
It looks like too much trouble for me, and besides, I
don't mind diving with
goggles and scraping, which I did with my Starwind. The
worst thing that
ever happened was some serious leg cramping (as in

charlie
horse) while I
had my foot hooked under the keel to keep me from

floating
up. Painful
stuff.
Scout











Scotty October 9th 06 03:25 PM

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you renting a slip? mooring? private dock space?


"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
At least for a year so I can get my parents out sailing as

much as
possible - it's only 20 minutes from their place.

Ultimately I want to be in
the Chessy though.
Scout

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
Oh, NJ? ;(

Saw the big Seaward at the boat show, looked nice.

Scotty



"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
Scotty,
It has an adequate coat of bottom paint for now but

I'll
keep the VC-17 in
mind. I'm not planning on trailering it more than once

a
year at this point
(between home and a marina). Takes all the fun out of

it
if I have to drop
the mast and pull it home every time. I have a place

lined
up for next
summer, in Tuckerton, NJ.
I've pressure washed the Gulf gunk off. Looks pretty

good.
Not sure when
I'll get my first voyage in, too much on my plate to

worry
about it but I'm
having fun figuring stuff out on the hard.
Scout


"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
Scout, check out VC-17 bottom paint. Great stuff for
trailer sailors.

When's the maiden voyage?

Scotty


"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
"Joe" wrote in message



ups.com...

Scout wrote:
Anyone practicing safe sacks?

Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first...Second cant

get
water for the
AC's and head.

Good point Joe, I guess I hadn't consider the AC! I
wonder though if it
still wouldn't work, that is, assuming the bag

doesn't
actually obstruct
your intake, I wonder if the heat transfer through

the
plastic would be
enough to keep the condensing water at or below

design
temp. As for the
head, I assume (uh-oh) that you mean water for the

head
which would end up
in your holding tank, and that you don't mean to say
you're flushing your
waste into the marina waters (like we did in the

60's &
70's). In any
event, I would imagine enough make-up water would

get
into
the bag.
It looks like too much trouble for me, and besides,

I
don't mind diving with
goggles and scraping, which I did with my Starwind.

The
worst thing that
ever happened was some serious leg cramping (as in

charlie
horse) while I
had my foot hooked under the keel to keep me from

floating
up. Painful
stuff.
Scout













Scout October 9th 06 04:16 PM

Boat Bags
 
Renting a slip, hopefully they have a place for me - I'm waiting to hear
back. Marina on the Bass River.


"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
you renting a slip? mooring? private dock space?


"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
At least for a year so I can get my parents out sailing as

much as
possible - it's only 20 minutes from their place.

Ultimately I want to be in
the Chessy though.
Scout

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
Oh, NJ? ;(

Saw the big Seaward at the boat show, looked nice.

Scotty



"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
Scotty,
It has an adequate coat of bottom paint for now but

I'll
keep the VC-17 in
mind. I'm not planning on trailering it more than once

a
year at this point
(between home and a marina). Takes all the fun out of

it
if I have to drop
the mast and pull it home every time. I have a place

lined
up for next
summer, in Tuckerton, NJ.
I've pressure washed the Gulf gunk off. Looks pretty

good.
Not sure when
I'll get my first voyage in, too much on my plate to

worry
about it but I'm
having fun figuring stuff out on the hard.
Scout


"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
Scout, check out VC-17 bottom paint. Great stuff for
trailer sailors.

When's the maiden voyage?

Scotty


"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
"Joe" wrote in message



ups.com...

Scout wrote:
Anyone practicing safe sacks?

Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first...Second cant

get
water for the
AC's and head.

Good point Joe, I guess I hadn't consider the AC! I
wonder though if it
still wouldn't work, that is, assuming the bag

doesn't
actually obstruct
your intake, I wonder if the heat transfer through

the
plastic would be
enough to keep the condensing water at or below

design
temp. As for the
head, I assume (uh-oh) that you mean water for the

head
which would end up
in your holding tank, and that you don't mean to say
you're flushing your
waste into the marina waters (like we did in the

60's &
70's). In any
event, I would imagine enough make-up water would

get
into
the bag.
It looks like too much trouble for me, and besides,

I
don't mind diving with
goggles and scraping, which I did with my Starwind.

The
worst thing that
ever happened was some serious leg cramping (as in
charlie
horse) while I
had my foot hooked under the keel to keep me from
floating
up. Painful
stuff.
Scout















Joe October 9th 06 04:31 PM

Boat Bags
 

Scout wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...

Scout wrote:
Anyone practicing safe sacks?


Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first...Second cant get water for the
AC's and head.


Good point Joe, I guess I hadn't consider the AC! I wonder though if it
still wouldn't work, that is, assuming the bag doesn't actually obstruct
your intake, I wonder if the heat transfer through the plastic would be
enough to keep the condensing water at or below design temp.



Not down here it would not be. I like closed loop keel coolers but you
need water movement or a large area of water. I think the bags water
would be steaming here in just a few hours, But the water temp is 82
here. In NY it might work. If I bagged my boat I'd fill the bag with
fresh water and avoid the clorine.


As for the
head, I assume (uh-oh) that you mean water for the head which would end up
in your holding tank, and that you don't mean to say you're flushing your
waste into the marina waters (like we did in the 60's & 70's).


Suction to flush, we have a 75 gallon new holding tank.

In any
event, I would imagine enough make-up water would get into the bag.
It looks like too much trouble for me, and besides, I don't mind diving with
goggles and scraping, which I did with my Starwind. The worst thing that
ever happened was some serious leg cramping (as in charlie horse) while I
had my foot hooked under the keel to keep me from floating up. Painful
stuff.


Yeah cramps hurt, and can be dangerious under water. I like to get
offshore and scrub the bottom myself in clear water, and chip barneys
off the prop.

If I owned my own dock, then I'd build a submergeable barge, pull the
boat over it and lift the boat out of the water. Or a belt lift.

Joe

Scout



katy October 9th 06 05:33 PM

Boat Bags
 
Scotty wrote:
Scout, check out VC-17 bottom paint. Great stuff for
trailer sailors.

When's the maiden voyage?

Scotty


"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
"Joe" wrote in message

ups.com...
Scout wrote:
Anyone practicing safe sacks?
Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first...Second cant get

water for the
AC's and head.

Good point Joe, I guess I hadn't consider the AC! I

wonder though if it
still wouldn't work, that is, assuming the bag doesn't

actually obstruct
your intake, I wonder if the heat transfer through the

plastic would be
enough to keep the condensing water at or below design

temp. As for the
head, I assume (uh-oh) that you mean water for the head

which would end up
in your holding tank, and that you don't mean to say

you're flushing your
waste into the marina waters (like we did in the 60's &

70's). In any
event, I would imagine enough make-up water would get into

the bag.
It looks like too much trouble for me, and besides, I

don't mind diving with
goggles and scraping, which I did with my Starwind. The

worst thing that
ever happened was some serious leg cramping (as in charlie

horse) while I
had my foot hooked under the keel to keep me from floating

up. Painful
stuff.
Scout




You had good luck with it? We put on VC 17 biocide but it didn't hold
over the 7 months it was in the water, even that far up the Neuse...we
went to an ablative paint by Sea Hawk this time...problem wuth the BC;s
is that if he does decide to slip her, he will have to completely strip
the bottom before putting on something else

DSK October 9th 06 09:27 PM

Boat Bags
 
Scout wrote:

Anyone practicing safe sacks?



I saw those a couple of years ago up on the Chesapeake,
haven't seen any for a while though. It was supposed to be a
cheap alternative to dry sailing.


Joe wrote:
Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first...


Not on fiberglass, it isn't.


.... Second cant get water for the
AC's and head.


The AC would be an easy fix, as for the head.... WHY ARE YOU
FLUSHING YOUR HEAD OVERBOARD IN A MARINA, YOU DIRTBAG?

DSK



Jeff October 9th 06 10:00 PM

Boat Bags
 
DSK wrote:
Scout wrote:

Anyone practicing safe sacks?



I saw those a couple of years ago up on the Chesapeake, haven't seen any
for a while though. It was supposed to be a cheap alternative to dry
sailing.


Joe wrote:
Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first...


Not on fiberglass, it isn't.


.... Second cant get water for the
AC's and head.


The AC would be an easy fix, as for the head.... WHY ARE YOU FLUSHING
YOUR HEAD OVERBOARD IN A MARINA, YOU DIRTBAG?

DSK


Although overboard dumping is illegal everywhere that there are
marinas in the US, but in practice I've only seen a few places where
liveaboards actually use a pumpout. The several marinas I frequent
have liveaboards, but I've never seen one go to the pumpout station.
At my current place, I've never seen the pumpout actually used.

Here in New England, East of the Cape, there are 9+ foot tides, and
fairly directly access to the ocean, so folks aren't that concerned
about the commercial harbors. The recreational harbors that aren't
cleansed by tides tend to provide free pumpouts - places like Martha's
Vineyard provide that service.

But before you get "holier than though," when last I traveled through
the south, it was virtually impossible to get a pumpout anywhere, even
at places that advertised a free pumpout with a fillup.

katy October 9th 06 11:26 PM

Boat Bags
 
Jeff wrote:
DSK wrote:
Scout wrote:

Anyone practicing safe sacks?


I saw those a couple of years ago up on the Chesapeake, haven't seen
any for a while though. It was supposed to be a cheap alternative to
dry sailing.


Joe wrote:
Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first...


Not on fiberglass, it isn't.


.... Second cant get water for the
AC's and head.


The AC would be an easy fix, as for the head.... WHY ARE YOU FLUSHING
YOUR HEAD OVERBOARD IN A MARINA, YOU DIRTBAG?

DSK


Although overboard dumping is illegal everywhere that there are marinas
in the US, but in practice I've only seen a few places where liveaboards
actually use a pumpout. The several marinas I frequent have
liveaboards, but I've never seen one go to the pumpout station. At my
current place, I've never seen the pumpout actually used.

Here in New England, East of the Cape, there are 9+ foot tides, and
fairly directly access to the ocean, so folks aren't that concerned
about the commercial harbors. The recreational harbors that aren't
cleansed by tides tend to provide free pumpouts - places like Martha's
Vineyard provide that service.

But before you get "holier than though," when last I traveled through
the south, it was virtually impossible to get a pumpout anywhere, even
at places that advertised a free pumpout with a fillup.


That's strange becasue alal three of the big marinas in New Bern have
working pump-outs and with a low tidal sluggish waterway, the idea that
someone would be actively pumping straight to a river system that is
already overflowing with pllutants irks me no end. And yes, I have
noticed that some of the liveaboards never pump out..ut's disgusting...

Joe October 9th 06 11:35 PM

Boat Bags
 

DSK wrote:
Scout wrote:

Anyone practicing safe sacks?



I saw those a couple of years ago up on the Chesapeake,
haven't seen any for a while though. It was supposed to be a
cheap alternative to dry sailing.


Joe wrote:
Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first...


Not on fiberglass, it isn't.


.... Second cant get water for the
AC's and head.


The AC would be an easy fix, as for the head.... WHY ARE YOU
FLUSHING YOUR HEAD OVERBOARD IN A MARINA, YOU DIRTBAG?


Yo dip****, raw water is used to flush the head, I have a 75 gallon
holding tank, and pump off service that visits weekly. You need to take
a chill pill.

Joe

DSK



Jeff October 10th 06 12:22 AM

Boat Bags
 
katy wrote:
Jeff wrote:

....

But before you get "holier than though," when last I traveled through
the south, it was virtually impossible to get a pumpout anywhere, even
at places that advertised a free pumpout with a fillup.


That's strange becasue alal three of the big marinas in New Bern have
working pump-outs and with a low tidal sluggish waterway, the idea that
someone would be actively pumping straight to a river system that is
already overflowing with pllutants irks me no end. And yes, I have
noticed that some of the liveaboards never pump out..ut's disgusting...


We didn't make it up to New Bern. I suspect that a tenant of a marina
has a much easier time of getting a pumpout than a transient. And an
obvious traveler who is only stopping for fuel has less of a chance.
Its easy to believe that a kid would rather say "Its broken" or "The
guy who does that isn't here now" than deal with the pumpout. Or
maybe they think "They brought it here, they can take it elsewhere."
The jokes on them of course, because the frustrated boater probably
hits the "eject" button the instant the kid turns his back.


Joe October 10th 06 12:32 AM

Boat Bags
 

katy wrote:
Jeff wrote:
DSK wrote:
Scout wrote:

Anyone practicing safe sacks?


I saw those a couple of years ago up on the Chesapeake, haven't seen
any for a while though. It was supposed to be a cheap alternative to
dry sailing.


Joe wrote:
Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first...

Not on fiberglass, it isn't.


.... Second cant get water for the
AC's and head.


The AC would be an easy fix, as for the head.... WHY ARE YOU FLUSHING
YOUR HEAD OVERBOARD IN A MARINA, YOU DIRTBAG?

DSK


Although overboard dumping is illegal everywhere that there are marinas
in the US, but in practice I've only seen a few places where liveaboards
actually use a pumpout. The several marinas I frequent have
liveaboards, but I've never seen one go to the pumpout station. At my
current place, I've never seen the pumpout actually used.

Here in New England, East of the Cape, there are 9+ foot tides, and
fairly directly access to the ocean, so folks aren't that concerned
about the commercial harbors. The recreational harbors that aren't
cleansed by tides tend to provide free pumpouts - places like Martha's
Vineyard provide that service.

But before you get "holier than though," when last I traveled through
the south, it was virtually impossible to get a pumpout anywhere, even
at places that advertised a free pumpout with a fillup.


That's strange becasue alal three of the big marinas in New Bern have
working pump-outs and with a low tidal sluggish waterway, the idea that
someone would be actively pumping straight to a river system that is
already overflowing with pllutants irks me no end. And yes, I have
noticed that some of the liveaboards never pump out..ut's disgusting...


Yeah we had some trailor trash living on a houseboat here and they
never pumped out.
They are gone.

Problem here is the powerboats (go fast boats) but the season is over
for them, thank god.
I pay 75 dollars a month for the pumpout service. Thinking of building
a pumpout cart, if the marina has a place to discharge it?? I would
think tapping into the office system would be do-able. a few mo. and it
pays for itself.

Joe


katy October 10th 06 01:00 AM

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Jeff wrote:
katy wrote:
Jeff wrote:

...

But before you get "holier than though," when last I traveled through
the south, it was virtually impossible to get a pumpout anywhere,
even at places that advertised a free pumpout with a fillup.


That's strange becasue alal three of the big marinas in New Bern have
working pump-outs and with a low tidal sluggish waterway, the idea
that someone would be actively pumping straight to a river system that
is already overflowing with pllutants irks me no end. And yes, I have
noticed that some of the liveaboards never pump out..ut's disgusting...


We didn't make it up to New Bern. I suspect that a tenant of a marina
has a much easier time of getting a pumpout than a transient. And an
obvious traveler who is only stopping for fuel has less of a chance. Its
easy to believe that a kid would rather say "Its broken" or "The guy who
does that isn't here now" than deal with the pumpout. Or maybe they
think "They brought it here, they can take it elsewhere." The jokes on
them of course, because the frustrated boater probably hits the "eject"
button the instant the kid turns his back.

We had a problem like that with the dock guy at the Sheraton.Marina I
marched into the middle of the hotel lobby demanding to see the
concierge....we never had a problem after that....adnd if you tell them
you know how to do it and just start to do it yourself, they usually
just walk away...

DSK October 10th 06 03:12 AM

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Jeff wrote:
But before you get "holier than though," when last I traveled through
the south, it was virtually impossible to get a pumpout anywhere,
even at places that advertised a free pumpout with a fillup.



I wasn't being "holier than thou" just pointing out the facts.

And I have cruised the East Coast and found pumpouts not too
difficult to find. It's not as easy as it should be, but
it's very far from impossible.





That's strange becasue alal three of the big marinas in New Bern have
working pump-outs and with a low tidal sluggish waterway, the idea
that someone would be actively pumping straight to a river system that
is already overflowing with pllutants irks me no end.


Same here.

Our marina has a cart pump-out and makes it very easy, in
addition to the pump-out next to the fuel dock.

Liveaboards are subject to some extra fees but they also get
a free monthly pump-out (and if they come pump out the
holding tank and nothing comes out, the dockmaster takes a
close look at their plumbing). The only punishment I know of
in the last few years has been one guy who was kicked out
for many reasons, that being the official one.



We didn't make it up to New Bern. I suspect that a tenant of a marina
has a much easier time of getting a pumpout than a transient. And an
obvious traveler who is only stopping for fuel has less of a chance. Its
easy to believe that a kid would rather say "Its broken" or "The guy who
does that isn't here now" than deal with the pumpout.


I've heard that too, and always reported the "broken
pump-out" to the relevant coastal anti-pollution regulatory
agency.

If a marina pump-out has been installed with tax money, and
the marina owner gets a tax incentive for having it, then
reporting it broken (even if it really is broken) means they
are cheating the coastal taxpayers as well as boaters. Let
the IRS become the enforcement arm for these rules!


.... Or maybe they
think "They brought it here, they can take it elsewhere." The jokes on
them of course, because the frustrated boater probably hits the "eject"
button the instant the kid turns his back.


I've never done thatn although I've been tempted. Makes you
understand why some waters have rules that the overboard
plumbing must be disconnected & disabled, not just shut off
with a valve.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Bart October 10th 06 05:50 AM

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"DSK" wrote

And I have cruised the East Coast and found pumpouts not too difficult to
find. It's not as easy as it should be, but it's very far from impossible.


They are free up here in Connecticut. There are stations and even
boats that come right to you to suck your holding tanks dry.

No cost except the much higher than average use tax fees for
boats that spend more than 60 days in CT waters.



Scotty October 16th 06 05:40 PM

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"katy" wrote in message
...
Scotty wrote:
Scout, check out VC-17 bottom paint. Great stuff for
trailer sailors.

When's the maiden voyage?

You had good luck with it?


Yes, on my trailer sailor. That's what I wrote.


We put on VC 17 biocide but it didn't hold
over the 7 months it was in the water, even that far up

the Neuse...we
went to an ablative paint by Sea Hawk this time...problem

wuth the BC;s
is that if he does decide to slip her, he will have to

completely strip
the bottom before putting on something else



I didn't realize , before, that Scout was going to slip his
boat.

Scotty




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