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Heart of Gold's sweet interior. Switches under top step are for fuel
pump and floor runway lights. http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/ima...teriorweby.jpg This is from Monday....some may have missed it....Bob L. trimming the main...picked up to 8 knots...more sailing tomorrow! http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/bobweby.jpg RB 35s5 NY |
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Capt. Rob wrote: Heart of Gold's sweet interior. Switches under top step are for fuel pump and floor runway lights. You know what Rob, thoses plastic ports screwed to the doors aft look cheap as dirt. If I were you I'd find some nice small chrome ports and replace them. Are your runway lights red? are they LED? are they that cheap **** rope light? http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/ima...teriorweby.jpg This is from Monday....some may have missed it....Bob L. trimming the main...picked up to 8 knots...more sailing tomorrow! Do you ever helm the boat? Where is Little thom? Bet he'd like to sail 8 kts. Joe http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/bobweby.jpg RB 35s5 NY |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/ima...teriorweby.jpg Now that is art on art! The interior design is art and the photograph is yet another work of art! A magnificent blend of light, color, shapes, function and design! Quite possibly the greatest interior sailboat picture ever taken. Who could possible think that photographing art would make it more artful? Obviously the photographer is a person of unusual talent. Did you take that picture RB? When can I get an autographed copy of your coffee table sailboat book? |
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You know what Rob, thoses plastic ports screwed to the doors aft look cheap as dirt. If I were you I'd find some nice small chrome ports and replace them. Those ports are glass and held in place aluminum fittings that match the rest of the interior. They are well done, but purely cosmetic. I'll take a close up pic for you. Are your runway lights red? are they LED? are they that cheap **** rope light? Yellow/amber LED's. One at the steps, 3 on the floor. More useful than I expected. Do you ever helm the boat? Where is Little thom? Bet he'd like to sail 8 kts. When this guy is at the helm I watch, ask questions and learn. RB 35s5 NY |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... .. Do you ever helm the boat? Where is Little thom? Bet he'd like to sail 8 kts. When this guy is at the helm I watch, ask questions and learn. Humility - the mark of a true sailor! It is no small wonder your life is so well lived! |
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Looks like a tiny cockpit. And, yet again, no PFDs.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... Capt. Rob wrote: Heart of Gold's sweet interior. Switches under top step are for fuel pump and floor runway lights. You know what Rob, thoses plastic ports screwed to the doors aft look cheap as dirt. If I were you I'd find some nice small chrome ports and replace them. Are your runway lights red? are they LED? are they that cheap **** rope light? http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/ima...teriorweby.jpg This is from Monday....some may have missed it....Bob L. trimming the main...picked up to 8 knots...more sailing tomorrow! Do you ever helm the boat? Where is Little thom? Bet he'd like to sail 8 kts. Joe http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/bobweby.jpg RB 35s5 NY |
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Hey, give him a break... the boat was heeling ever so slightly.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Gilligan" wrote in message . .. "Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/ima...teriorweby.jpg Now that is art on art! The interior design is art and the photograph is yet another work of art! A magnificent blend of light, color, shapes, function and design! Quite possibly the greatest interior sailboat picture ever taken. Who could possible think that photographing art would make it more artful? Obviously the photographer is a person of unusual talent. Did you take that picture RB? When can I get an autographed copy of your coffee table sailboat book? |
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Capt. Rob wrote: You know what Rob, thoses plastic ports screwed to the doors aft look cheap as dirt. If I were you I'd find some nice small chrome ports and replace them. Those ports are glass and held in place aluminum fittings that match the rest of the interior. They are well done, but purely cosmetic. I'll take a close up pic for you. Oh OK from the other pic it looks like thick plexi with 3 screws Are your runway lights red? are they LED? are they that cheap **** rope light? Yellow/amber LED's. One at the steps, 3 on the floor. More useful than I expected. And and if you sail at night the best to go below to take a wizz and not totally blow your night vision, I would switch to red. Do you ever helm the boat? Where is Little thom? Bet he'd like to sail 8 kts. When this guy is at the helm I watch, ask questions and learn. Thats a good thing, what did you ask, and what did you learn? For a while i worked as first mate for a Capt who was in the Navy Reserve with the rank of Captain. All he did was train officers how to handle ships. I got to go with him to Norfork and un-offically attend his course (you had to be Navy to attend and get credit). Way back then they had mini ships, that acted, and re-acted just like full scale ships, I think it was a 1/20th scale. It was a blast. The same school is going but it's all computers. http://www.marinesafety.com/sections...n_courses.html Joe RB 35s5 NY |
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Thats a good thing, what did you ask, and what did you learn? Mostly about trim and how he got the boat to accelerate so quickly after a tack or jybe. It appears that I typically oversteer when gybing...a bad habit. We also had a long discussion about the cut of the jib...for cruising and daysailing over racing. RB 35s5 NY |
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Looks like a tiny cockpit. And, yet again, no PFDs. I wish gay Ganzy would just go sailing and not worry so much about the length of my cock-pit. As for PFD's, if Ganzy always wears them then he's 100% gay. No kids on board of course. RB 35s5 NY |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Hey, give him a break... the boat was heeling ever so slightly. It was "rough." Max |
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Capt. Rob wrote: Looks like a tiny cockpit. And, yet again, no PFDs. As for PFD's, if Ganzy always wears them then he's 100% gay. Have you sailed SF Bay Rob? It's nothing like LIS. I can understands Jon's endorsement of PFD's. SF is more like the open ocean than any bay on earth. Wicked currents and storms can blow in in a heartbeat, fog so thick you can not see your hand, lots of big traffic, Rocky shores and cliffs, big waves..ect. ect... Something you might understand if you get a Captain licences like Jon has. Safety of passengers is your number one concern all the time. Do you provide your guest's with PFD's? You can get some nice PFD's these day that are comfy. I bought Terry a Sperry float coat. Myself I usually do not wear a PFD, but Im a strong swimmer and do not want to be restricted, Plus I make sure there are many PFD and such that will float and I can find. Joe No kids on board of course. RB 35s5 NY |
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Joe wrote:
Capt. Rob wrote: Looks like a tiny cockpit. And, yet again, no PFDs. As for PFD's, if Ganzy always wears them then he's 100% gay. Have you sailed SF Bay Rob? It's nothing like LIS. I can understands Jon's endorsement of PFD's. SF is more like the open ocean than any bay on earth. Wicked currents and storms can blow in in a heartbeat, fog so thick you can not see your hand, lots of big traffic, Rocky shores and cliffs, big waves..ect. ect... Something you might understand if you get a Captain licences like Jon has. Safety of passengers is your number one concern all the time. Do you provide your guest's with PFD's? On;y the gay ones... You can get some nice PFD's these day that are comfy. I bought Terry a Sperry float coat. Myself I usually do not wear a PFD, but Im a strong swimmer You can't swim if you've been knocked unconscious... and do not want to be restricted, Plus I make sure there are many PFD and such that will float and I can find. And if you are singlehanding or Terry is below napping and you go over how are you going to reach them? EEspecially is your boat is toodling along at 4-5 knots...you can swim that fast to catch up? Joe No kids on board of course. RB 35s5 NY |
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katy wrote: Joe wrote: Capt. Rob wrote: Looks like a tiny cockpit. And, yet again, no PFDs. As for PFD's, if Ganzy always wears them then he's 100% gay. Have you sailed SF Bay Rob? It's nothing like LIS. I can understands Jon's endorsement of PFD's. SF is more like the open ocean than any bay on earth. Wicked currents and storms can blow in in a heartbeat, fog so thick you can not see your hand, lots of big traffic, Rocky shores and cliffs, big waves..ect. ect... Something you might understand if you get a Captain licences like Jon has. Safety of passengers is your number one concern all the time. Do you provide your guest's with PFD's? On;y the gay ones... You can get some nice PFD's these day that are comfy. I bought Terry a Sperry float coat. Myself I usually do not wear a PFD, but Im a strong swimmer You can't swim if you've been knocked unconscious... Correct. Do not get knocked unconscious. and do not want to be restricted, Plus I make sure there are many PFD and such that will float and I can find. And if you are singlehanding or Terry is below napping and you go over how are you going to reach them? EEspecially is your boat is toodling along at 4-5 knots...you can swim that fast to catch up? At sea.... just us... her sleeping.... I'd put on my inflateable vest and harness in bad weather. I can trim all sails from the cockpit, if I needed to reef the sails then I'd wake her. We have a long bench with cusions in the wheelhouse, Terry would be in the wheelhouse sleeping, not below sleeping. We have worked as a team for many many years now, she has no problem skillfully manning them helm at any time I request. We have a long long history of covering each others back at sea and ashore. Joe Joe No kids on board of course. RB 35s5 NY |
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Joe wrote:
katy wrote: Joe wrote: Capt. Rob wrote: Looks like a tiny cockpit. And, yet again, no PFDs. As for PFD's, if Ganzy always wears them then he's 100% gay. Have you sailed SF Bay Rob? It's nothing like LIS. I can understands Jon's endorsement of PFD's. SF is more like the open ocean than any bay on earth. Wicked currents and storms can blow in in a heartbeat, fog so thick you can not see your hand, lots of big traffic, Rocky shores and cliffs, big waves..ect. ect... Something you might understand if you get a Captain licences like Jon has. Safety of passengers is your number one concern all the time. Do you provide your guest's with PFD's? On;y the gay ones... You can get some nice PFD's these day that are comfy. I bought Terry a Sperry float coat. Myself I usually do not wear a PFD, but Im a strong swimmer You can't swim if you've been knocked unconscious... Correct. Do not get knocked unconscious. and do not want to be restricted, Plus I make sure there are many PFD and such that will float and I can find. And if you are singlehanding or Terry is below napping and you go over how are you going to reach them? EEspecially is your boat is toodling along at 4-5 knots...you can swim that fast to catch up? At sea.... just us... her sleeping.... I'd put on my inflateable vest and harness in bad weather. I can trim all sails from the cockpit, if I needed to reef the sails then I'd wake her. We have a long bench with cusions in the wheelhouse, Terry would be in the wheelhouse sleeping, not below sleeping. We have worked as a team for many many years now, she has no problem skillfully manning them helm at any time I request. We have a long long history of covering each others back at sea and ashore. Joe Joe No kids on board of course. RB 35s5 NY That's good to hear. I am always concerned, though, when newbies read posts in this forum and see that some experienced sailors eschew safety procedures over comfort or sea conditions. While there is a factor that experience is a safety factor in itself, there are those unforeseeable situations when experience doesn't count at all. We've all read the accounts of famous sailors who have gone to Davy Jones because they weren't wearing a PFD and were swept overboard. |
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Joe would never be knocked unconscious. He's from Texas. :-)
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "katy" wrote in message ... Joe wrote: Capt. Rob wrote: Looks like a tiny cockpit. And, yet again, no PFDs. Have you sailed SF Bay Rob? It's nothing like LIS. I can understands Jon's endorsement of PFD's. SF is more like the open ocean than any bay on earth. Wicked currents and storms can blow in in a heartbeat, fog so thick you can not see your hand, lots of big traffic, Rocky shores and cliffs, big waves..ect. ect... Something you might understand if you get a Captain licences like Jon has. Safety of passengers is your number one concern all the time. Do you provide your guest's with PFD's? On;y the gay ones... You can get some nice PFD's these day that are comfy. I bought Terry a Sperry float coat. Myself I usually do not wear a PFD, but Im a strong swimmer You can't swim if you've been knocked unconscious... and do not want to be restricted, Plus I make sure there are many PFD and such that will float and I can find. And if you are singlehanding or Terry is below napping and you go over how are you going to reach them? EEspecially is your boat is toodling along at 4-5 knots...you can swim that fast to catch up? Joe No kids on board of course. RB 35s5 NY |
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I just bought a remote control for my autohelm. It's actually nice because
if I'm foward by myself, it's nice to be able make a course change without hustling back to the wheel. I also have a tether/harness I use when single handing and things start to get boisterous. I was joking with a friend when we were checking out the remote control that if I fell off and had it with me, I could turn the boat around and it could come back and get me. Of course, there's no way to stop it if I had the engine on, but with just sails I suppose I could head her up into the wind. Of course, the range on the remote is only 100 feet (maybe), so I wouldn't have much time to react... perhaps as I'm flying through the air. :-) -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "katy" wrote in message ... Joe wrote: katy wrote: Joe wrote: Capt. Rob wrote: Looks like a tiny cockpit. And, yet again, no PFDs. As for PFD's, if Ganzy always wears them then he's 100% gay. Have you sailed SF Bay Rob? It's nothing like LIS. I can understands Jon's endorsement of PFD's. SF is more like the open ocean than any bay on earth. Wicked currents and storms can blow in in a heartbeat, fog so thick you can not see your hand, lots of big traffic, Rocky shores and cliffs, big waves..ect. ect... Something you might understand if you get a Captain licences like Jon has. Safety of passengers is your number one concern all the time. Do you provide your guest's with PFD's? On;y the gay ones... You can get some nice PFD's these day that are comfy. I bought Terry a Sperry float coat. Myself I usually do not wear a PFD, but Im a strong swimmer You can't swim if you've been knocked unconscious... Correct. Do not get knocked unconscious. and do not want to be restricted, Plus I make sure there are many PFD and such that will float and I can find. And if you are singlehanding or Terry is below napping and you go over how are you going to reach them? EEspecially is your boat is toodling along at 4-5 knots...you can swim that fast to catch up? At sea.... just us... her sleeping.... I'd put on my inflateable vest and harness in bad weather. I can trim all sails from the cockpit, if I needed to reef the sails then I'd wake her. We have a long bench with cusions in the wheelhouse, Terry would be in the wheelhouse sleeping, not below sleeping. We have worked as a team for many many years now, she has no problem skillfully manning them helm at any time I request. We have a long long history of covering each others back at sea and ashore. Joe Joe No kids on board of course. RB 35s5 NY That's good to hear. I am always concerned, though, when newbies read posts in this forum and see that some experienced sailors eschew safety procedures over comfort or sea conditions. While there is a factor that experience is a safety factor in itself, there are those unforeseeable situations when experience doesn't count at all. We've all read the accounts of famous sailors who have gone to Davy Jones because they weren't wearing a PFD and were swept overboard. |
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katy wrote: That's good to hear. I am always concerned, though, when newbies read posts in this forum and see that some experienced sailors eschew safety procedures over comfort or sea conditions. I'm not eschewing safety at all. I figure if something happens I will be more usefull in the water being able to swim and dive. Helping people tangled below is a real factor on a sailboat. Comfort is not my issue either. Float coats are very comfortable. Mobility and not getting tangled up in stuff is my issue. While there is a factor that experience is a safety factor in itself, there are those unforeseeable situations when experience doesn't count at all. We've all read the accounts of famous sailors who have gone to Davy Jones because they weren't wearing a PFD and were swept overboard. Yelp, you wanna play the game you might have to pay the price. Best to stay on the boat. I can give an example of how not having a life jacket kept me alive. I've told the story here before of being washed over in the gulf. Seas at 11-15 ft and I went under the boat. Had I had a life jacket on when the boat came down on me several times, I would have been hammered and cut up worse by the bottom growth, since I did not I just flowed with the action and was able to claw my way out from under the boat. I would not endorse or suggest that anyone else follow my example, but I'm not going to change my ways. Joe |
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Joe wrote:
katy wrote: That's good to hear. I am always concerned, though, when newbies read posts in this forum and see that some experienced sailors eschew safety procedures over comfort or sea conditions. I'm not eschewing safety at all. I figure if something happens I will be more usefull in the water being able to swim and dive. Helping people tangled below is a real factor on a sailboat. Comfort is not my issue either. Float coats are very comfortable. Mobility and not getting tangled up in stuff is my issue. While there is a factor that experience is a safety factor in itself, there are those unforeseeable situations when experience doesn't count at all. We've all read the accounts of famous sailors who have gone to Davy Jones because they weren't wearing a PFD and were swept overboard. Yelp, you wanna play the game you might have to pay the price. Best to stay on the boat. I can give an example of how not having a life jacket kept me alive. I've told the story here before of being washed over in the gulf. Seas at 11-15 ft and I went under the boat. Had I had a life jacket on when the boat came down on me several times, I would have been hammered and cut up worse by the bottom growth, since I did not I just flowed with the action and was able to claw my way out from under the boat. I would not endorse or suggest that anyone else follow my example, but I'm not going to change my ways. Joe Yet if you had on a harness and line you would not have been in that situation. It's the same argument that people use about seatbelts. |
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katy wrote: Joe wrote: katy wrote: That's good to hear. I am always concerned, though, when newbies read posts in this forum and see that some experienced sailors eschew safety procedures over comfort or sea conditions. I'm not eschewing safety at all. I figure if something happens I will be more usefull in the water being able to swim and dive. Helping people tangled below is a real factor on a sailboat. Comfort is not my issue either. Float coats are very comfortable. Mobility and not getting tangled up in stuff is my issue. While there is a factor that experience is a safety factor in itself, there are those unforeseeable situations when experience doesn't count at all. We've all read the accounts of famous sailors who have gone to Davy Jones because they weren't wearing a PFD and were swept overboard. Yelp, you wanna play the game you might have to pay the price. Best to stay on the boat. I can give an example of how not having a life jacket kept me alive. I've told the story here before of being washed over in the gulf. Seas at 11-15 ft and I went under the boat. Had I had a life jacket on when the boat came down on me several times, I would have been hammered and cut up worse by the bottom growth, since I did not I just flowed with the action and was able to claw my way out from under the boat. I would not endorse or suggest that anyone else follow my example, but I'm not going to change my ways. Joe Yet if you had on a harness and line you would not have been in that situation. It's the same argument that people use about seatbelts. Had I had a harness on, I'd been snapped at the harness like a twig, or crushed by the deck cargo awash, and not able to do my job. Picture standing on a steel beach, around you is 10X15 ft metal boxes that wiegh in on average 2000 pounds. Now violently rock the beach 25 to 35 degrees, back and forth, then have a 15 ft solid wall of water hit you and all the gear, breaking 3/8 chains everywhere and washing it to all in one big slosh to stbd in 1/2 a second and tell me you want to be harnessed in. Joe |
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Joe wrote:
katy wrote: Joe wrote: katy wrote: That's good to hear. I am always concerned, though, when newbies read posts in this forum and see that some experienced sailors eschew safety procedures over comfort or sea conditions. I'm not eschewing safety at all. I figure if something happens I will be more usefull in the water being able to swim and dive. Helping people tangled below is a real factor on a sailboat. Comfort is not my issue either. Float coats are very comfortable. Mobility and not getting tangled up in stuff is my issue. While there is a factor that experience is a safety factor in itself, there are those unforeseeable situations when experience doesn't count at all. We've all read the accounts of famous sailors who have gone to Davy Jones because they weren't wearing a PFD and were swept overboard. Yelp, you wanna play the game you might have to pay the price. Best to stay on the boat. I can give an example of how not having a life jacket kept me alive. I've told the story here before of being washed over in the gulf. Seas at 11-15 ft and I went under the boat. Had I had a life jacket on when the boat came down on me several times, I would have been hammered and cut up worse by the bottom growth, since I did not I just flowed with the action and was able to claw my way out from under the boat. I would not endorse or suggest that anyone else follow my example, but I'm not going to change my ways. Joe Yet if you had on a harness and line you would not have been in that situation. It's the same argument that people use about seatbelts. Had I had a harness on, I'd been snapped at the harness like a twig, or crushed by the deck cargo awash, and not able to do my job. Picture standing on a steel beach, around you is 10X15 ft metal boxes that wiegh in on average 2000 pounds. Now violently rock the beach 25 to 35 degrees, back and forth, then have a 15 ft solid wall of water hit you and all the gear, breaking 3/8 chains everywhere and washing it to all in one big slosh to stbd in 1/2 a second and tell me you want to be harnessed in. Joe OK...you've qualified that you were not sailing but on some kind of commercial or Navy vessel, which is an entirely different matter...most people here would never be in that situation so what you're saying doesn't apply...hey...just a thought...why don't you ask Terry to come back and post? I promise I won't pick on her...for real...since Haggie's immersed in other projects lately it's rahter devoid of the female perspective around here (I don't consider "Ellen's" perspective as being female)...and the guys all like her... |
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Something you might understand if you get a Captain licences like Jon
has. Safety of passengers is your number one concern all the time. Joe, do you wear a life jacket on board in good weather withing swimming distance of land? I've sailed NY, NJ, CT, and even FL areas and I rarely see people with PFDs on in good weather while out for a day sail. Jon is a scared little chicken fairy who feels his fears should be shared by everyone. When people have posted here with pics of their boats underway, PFDs are rarely worn in those pics. Thomas wears his PFD full time now, but he struggled with it for a while and kept trying to take it off. RB 35s5 NY |
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katy wrote: Joe wrote: katy wrote: Joe wrote: katy wrote: That's good to hear. I am always concerned, though, when newbies read posts in this forum and see that some experienced sailors eschew safety procedures over comfort or sea conditions. I'm not eschewing safety at all. I figure if something happens I will be more usefull in the water being able to swim and dive. Helping people tangled below is a real factor on a sailboat. Comfort is not my issue either. Float coats are very comfortable. Mobility and not getting tangled up in stuff is my issue. While there is a factor that experience is a safety factor in itself, there are those unforeseeable situations when experience doesn't count at all. We've all read the accounts of famous sailors who have gone to Davy Jones because they weren't wearing a PFD and were swept overboard. Yelp, you wanna play the game you might have to pay the price. Best to stay on the boat. I can give an example of how not having a life jacket kept me alive. I've told the story here before of being washed over in the gulf. Seas at 11-15 ft and I went under the boat. Had I had a life jacket on when the boat came down on me several times, I would have been hammered and cut up worse by the bottom growth, since I did not I just flowed with the action and was able to claw my way out from under the boat. I would not endorse or suggest that anyone else follow my example, but I'm not going to change my ways. Joe Yet if you had on a harness and line you would not have been in that situation. It's the same argument that people use about seatbelts. Had I had a harness on, I'd been snapped at the harness like a twig, or crushed by the deck cargo awash, and not able to do my job. Picture standing on a steel beach, around you is 10X15 ft metal boxes that wiegh in on average 2000 pounds. Now violently rock the beach 25 to 35 degrees, back and forth, then have a 15 ft solid wall of water hit you and all the gear, breaking 3/8 chains everywhere and washing it to all in one big slosh to stbd in 1/2 a second and tell me you want to be harnessed in. Joe OK...you've qualified that you were not sailing but on some kind of commercial or Navy vessel, which is an entirely different matter...most people here would never be in that situation so what you're saying doesn't apply...hey...just a thought...why don't you ask Terry to come back and post? I promise I won't pick on her...for real...since Haggie's immersed in other projects lately it's rahter devoid of the female perspective around here (I don't consider "Ellen's" perspective as being female)...and the guys all like her... She's busy..... Medical School..Top of her class. Joe |
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Capt. Rob wrote: Something you might understand if you get a Captain licences like Jon has. Safety of passengers is your number one concern all the time. Joe, do you wear a life jacket on board in good weather withing swimming distance of land? I've sailed NY, NJ, CT, and even FL areas and I rarely see people with PFDs on in good weather while out for a day sail. No. Jon is a scared little chicken fairy who feels his fears should be shared by everyone. When people have posted here with pics of their boats underway, PFDs are rarely worn in those pics. I know. Thomas wears his PFD full time now, but he struggled with it for a while and kept trying to take it off. Bout time you took command and required it. Do you have jackets for everyone aboard and in easy reach? Joe RB 35s5 NY |
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Joe wrote:
katy wrote: Joe wrote: katy wrote: Joe wrote: katy wrote: That's good to hear. I am always concerned, though, when newbies read posts in this forum and see that some experienced sailors eschew safety procedures over comfort or sea conditions. I'm not eschewing safety at all. I figure if something happens I will be more usefull in the water being able to swim and dive. Helping people tangled below is a real factor on a sailboat. Comfort is not my issue either. Float coats are very comfortable. Mobility and not getting tangled up in stuff is my issue. While there is a factor that experience is a safety factor in itself, there are those unforeseeable situations when experience doesn't count at all. We've all read the accounts of famous sailors who have gone to Davy Jones because they weren't wearing a PFD and were swept overboard. Yelp, you wanna play the game you might have to pay the price. Best to stay on the boat. I can give an example of how not having a life jacket kept me alive. I've told the story here before of being washed over in the gulf. Seas at 11-15 ft and I went under the boat. Had I had a life jacket on when the boat came down on me several times, I would have been hammered and cut up worse by the bottom growth, since I did not I just flowed with the action and was able to claw my way out from under the boat. I would not endorse or suggest that anyone else follow my example, but I'm not going to change my ways. Joe Yet if you had on a harness and line you would not have been in that situation. It's the same argument that people use about seatbelts. Had I had a harness on, I'd been snapped at the harness like a twig, or crushed by the deck cargo awash, and not able to do my job. Picture standing on a steel beach, around you is 10X15 ft metal boxes that wiegh in on average 2000 pounds. Now violently rock the beach 25 to 35 degrees, back and forth, then have a 15 ft solid wall of water hit you and all the gear, breaking 3/8 chains everywhere and washing it to all in one big slosh to stbd in 1/2 a second and tell me you want to be harnessed in. Joe OK...you've qualified that you were not sailing but on some kind of commercial or Navy vessel, which is an entirely different matter...most people here would never be in that situation so what you're saying doesn't apply...hey...just a thought...why don't you ask Terry to come back and post? I promise I won't pick on her...for real...since Haggie's immersed in other projects lately it's rahter devoid of the female perspective around here (I don't consider "Ellen's" perspective as being female)...and the guys all like her... She's busy..... Medical School..Top of her class. Joe No comment.... |
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Bob has control problems. If you don't agree with him, sooner or later, he
calls you names. Quite pathetic and sad. Basically, he's willing to risk the lives of his friends and family, rather than follow the law. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... Capt. Rob wrote: Something you might understand if you get a Captain licences like Jon has. Safety of passengers is your number one concern all the time. Joe, do you wear a life jacket on board in good weather withing swimming distance of land? I've sailed NY, NJ, CT, and even FL areas and I rarely see people with PFDs on in good weather while out for a day sail. No. Jon is a scared little chicken fairy who feels his fears should be shared by everyone. When people have posted here with pics of their boats underway, PFDs are rarely worn in those pics. I know. Thomas wears his PFD full time now, but he struggled with it for a while and kept trying to take it off. Bout time you took command and required it. Do you have jackets for everyone aboard and in easy reach? Joe RB 35s5 NY |
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Bout time you took command and required it. Do you have jackets for everyone aboard and in easy reach? Yep, and have have type 1's, 2's and float coats. We treat the water with a lot of respect, especially at the start of the season when the water is cold. At the same time we're heterosexual and don't act like Ganzy. An adult does not need to wear a PFD in nice weather, in warm water if they can swim. I strongly suspect Ganzy makes his own warm water all of the time and can't swim! He's not just happy, he's downright GAY! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! RB 35s5 NY |
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Capt. JG wrote:
Bob has control problems. He should take Detrol...or subscribe to Depends of the Month Club..... |
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Now that's funny.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "katy" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: Bob has control problems. He should take Detrol...or subscribe to Depends of the Month Club..... |
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Capt. JG wrote: "Now I walk funny!" We know. RB 35s5 NY |
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"katy" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: Bob has control problems. He should take Detrol...or subscribe to Depends of the Month Club..... does that cure diarrhea of the mouth? Bob has a bad case of it. |
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Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: Bob has control problems. He should take Detrol...or subscribe to Depends of the Month Club..... does that cure diarrhea of the mouth? Bob has a bad case of it. No, I would think it would make it worse....greases the pipes, ya know.... |
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