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Bart September 27th 06 04:04 AM

Wire Rigging for Ships
 
Wire Rigging for Ships
Wire rigging for ships: - The Liverpool Courier says three-fourths of
all the ships now fitted out of Liverpool are rigged with wire rope. It
is described as a fourth less in weight, and not on-half the bulk of
that made of hemp, and the cost is also 25 per cent less. It is much
less susceptible than hemp of atmospheric changes, and it is predicted
that in a few years it will supersede hemp rope for standing rigging. A
recent trial of wire, hemp and Manilla ropes was recently made at the
King's dock, Liverpool. The straining tests showed the immense
superiority of wire rope over that made even of the best fibrous
material. The testing of the hempen ropes proved the strength of
Manilla to be far superior to Russian hemp, taking many of the
merchants, shipmasters and riggers present by surprise, as a different
opinion had been entertained by many of the gentlemen present.

The English have the advantage of us in regard to iron ships was well
as wire rigging, on account of the cheapness of material. Iron ship are
increasing in number in England, and in many respects they are superior
to wood, but they can not be built here until iron becomes cheaper. An
iron ship in England cost only about the same as a first-class wooden
ship, but in the United States would probably cost three times as much
as a wood-built ship. The depreciation on an iron ship is much less
than one of wood, and when the iron vessel is worn out, the old
material will go far towards paying for new. These are important
considerations. There is no one thing which we so much need, as the
ability to produce iron as cheaply as England. We have the crude
materials in abundance, cropping out on the surface of the earth
instead of being compelled to dig hundreds of feet deep for it, but we
need the skill and the labor which is requisite.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Daily Traveller, Boston, 1857 August 31.


DSK September 27th 06 01:01 PM

Wire Rigging for Ships
 
Bart wrote:
Wire Rigging for Ships
Wire rigging for ships: - The Liverpool Courier says three-fourths of
all the ships now fitted out of Liverpool are rigged with wire rope. It
is described as a fourth less in weight, and not on-half the bulk of
that made of hemp, and the cost is also 25 per cent less.....
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Daily Traveller, Boston, 1857 August 31.


Interesting article, I wish it had described the tests &
testing gear more thoroughly. This is about the time (mid
1850s) that England's iron production had gone through
several very quick cycles of evolution. As the author noted,
the U.S. had many unrealized advantages over England and
should be producing more... in a short while this was to happen.

And the whole business was used a few years later to
piggy-back mass production & utilization of that marvelous
hi-tech material, steel.

DSK


Scotty September 27th 06 01:22 PM

Wire Rigging for Ships
 
It's a fad. It won't last.

Scotty

"Bart" wrote in message
ups.com...
Wire Rigging for Ships
Wire rigging for ships: - The Liverpool Courier says

three-fourths of
all the ships now fitted out of Liverpool are rigged with

wire rope. It
is described as a fourth less in weight, and not on-half

the bulk of
that made of hemp, and the cost is also 25 per cent less.

It is much
less susceptible than hemp of atmospheric changes, and it

is predicted
that in a few years it will supersede hemp rope for

standing rigging. A
recent trial of wire, hemp and Manilla ropes was recently

made at the
King's dock, Liverpool. The straining tests showed the

immense
superiority of wire rope over that made even of the best

fibrous
material. The testing of the hempen ropes proved the

strength of
Manilla to be far superior to Russian hemp, taking many of

the
merchants, shipmasters and riggers present by surprise, as

a different
opinion had been entertained by many of the gentlemen

present.

The English have the advantage of us in regard to iron

ships was well
as wire rigging, on account of the cheapness of material.

Iron ship are
increasing in number in England, and in many respects they

are superior
to wood, but they can not be built here until iron becomes

cheaper. An
iron ship in England cost only about the same as a

first-class wooden
ship, but in the United States would probably cost three

times as much
as a wood-built ship. The depreciation on an iron ship is

much less
than one of wood, and when the iron vessel is worn out,

the old
material will go far towards paying for new. These are

important
considerations. There is no one thing which we so much

need, as the
ability to produce iron as cheaply as England. We have the

crude
materials in abundance, cropping out on the surface of the

earth
instead of being compelled to dig hundreds of feet deep

for it, but we
need the skill and the labor which is requisite.


----------------------------------------------------------

----------------------
Daily Traveller, Boston, 1857 August 31.




katy September 27th 06 01:52 PM

Wire Rigging for Ships
 
Bart wrote:
Wire Rigging for Ships
Wire rigging for ships: - The Liverpool Courier says three-fourths of
all the ships now fitted out of Liverpool are rigged with wire rope. It
is described as a fourth less in weight, and not on-half the bulk of
that made of hemp, and the cost is also 25 per cent less. It is much
less susceptible than hemp of atmospheric changes, and it is predicted
that in a few years it will supersede hemp rope for standing rigging. A
recent trial of wire, hemp and Manilla ropes was recently made at the
King's dock, Liverpool. The straining tests showed the immense
superiority of wire rope over that made even of the best fibrous
material. The testing of the hempen ropes proved the strength of
Manilla to be far superior to Russian hemp, taking many of the
merchants, shipmasters and riggers present by surprise, as a different
opinion had been entertained by many of the gentlemen present.

The English have the advantage of us in regard to iron ships was well
as wire rigging, on account of the cheapness of material. Iron ship are
increasing in number in England, and in many respects they are superior
to wood, but they can not be built here until iron becomes cheaper. An
iron ship in England cost only about the same as a first-class wooden
ship, but in the United States would probably cost three times as much
as a wood-built ship. The depreciation on an iron ship is much less
than one of wood, and when the iron vessel is worn out, the old
material will go far towards paying for new. These are important
considerations. There is no one thing which we so much need, as the
ability to produce iron as cheaply as England. We have the crude
materials in abundance, cropping out on the surface of the earth
instead of being compelled to dig hundreds of feet deep for it, but we
need the skill and the labor which is requisite.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Daily Traveller, Boston, 1857 August 31.

Too bad...the smell of hemp ropes is a nostalgic thing...maybe they can
put it in spray cans so they can spray it around boats fitted with wire
to keep the atmosphere...

Scout September 27th 06 02:23 PM

Wire Rigging for Ships
 
they'll build a boat that simply cannot sink!
Scout

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
It's a fad. It won't last.

Scotty

"Bart" wrote in message
ups.com...
Wire Rigging for Ships
Wire rigging for ships: - The Liverpool Courier says

three-fourths of
all the ships now fitted out of Liverpool are rigged with

wire rope. It
is described as a fourth less in weight, and not on-half

the bulk of
that made of hemp, and the cost is also 25 per cent less.

It is much
less susceptible than hemp of atmospheric changes, and it

is predicted
that in a few years it will supersede hemp rope for

standing rigging. A
recent trial of wire, hemp and Manilla ropes was recently

made at the
King's dock, Liverpool. The straining tests showed the

immense
superiority of wire rope over that made even of the best

fibrous
material. The testing of the hempen ropes proved the

strength of
Manilla to be far superior to Russian hemp, taking many of

the
merchants, shipmasters and riggers present by surprise, as

a different
opinion had been entertained by many of the gentlemen

present.

The English have the advantage of us in regard to iron

ships was well
as wire rigging, on account of the cheapness of material.

Iron ship are
increasing in number in England, and in many respects they

are superior
to wood, but they can not be built here until iron becomes

cheaper. An
iron ship in England cost only about the same as a

first-class wooden
ship, but in the United States would probably cost three

times as much
as a wood-built ship. The depreciation on an iron ship is

much less
than one of wood, and when the iron vessel is worn out,

the old
material will go far towards paying for new. These are

important
considerations. There is no one thing which we so much

need, as the
ability to produce iron as cheaply as England. We have the

crude
materials in abundance, cropping out on the surface of the

earth
instead of being compelled to dig hundreds of feet deep

for it, but we
need the skill and the labor which is requisite.


----------------------------------------------------------

----------------------
Daily Traveller, Boston, 1857 August 31.






Joe September 27th 06 02:24 PM

Wire Rigging for Ships
 

Scotty wrote:
It's a fad. It won't last.


Your boat is a by product of Oil..
And you call steel a fad..

Joe




Scotty

"Bart" wrote in message
ups.com...
Wire Rigging for Ships
Wire rigging for ships: - The Liverpool Courier says

three-fourths of
all the ships now fitted out of Liverpool are rigged with

wire rope. It
is described as a fourth less in weight, and not on-half

the bulk of
that made of hemp, and the cost is also 25 per cent less.

It is much
less susceptible than hemp of atmospheric changes, and it

is predicted
that in a few years it will supersede hemp rope for

standing rigging. A
recent trial of wire, hemp and Manilla ropes was recently

made at the
King's dock, Liverpool. The straining tests showed the

immense
superiority of wire rope over that made even of the best

fibrous
material. The testing of the hempen ropes proved the

strength of
Manilla to be far superior to Russian hemp, taking many of

the
merchants, shipmasters and riggers present by surprise, as

a different
opinion had been entertained by many of the gentlemen

present.

The English have the advantage of us in regard to iron

ships was well
as wire rigging, on account of the cheapness of material.

Iron ship are
increasing in number in England, and in many respects they

are superior
to wood, but they can not be built here until iron becomes

cheaper. An
iron ship in England cost only about the same as a

first-class wooden
ship, but in the United States would probably cost three

times as much
as a wood-built ship. The depreciation on an iron ship is

much less
than one of wood, and when the iron vessel is worn out,

the old
material will go far towards paying for new. These are

important
considerations. There is no one thing which we so much

need, as the
ability to produce iron as cheaply as England. We have the

crude
materials in abundance, cropping out on the surface of the

earth
instead of being compelled to dig hundreds of feet deep

for it, but we
need the skill and the labor which is requisite.


----------------------------------------------------------

----------------------
Daily Traveller, Boston, 1857 August 31.



Joe September 27th 06 02:32 PM

Wire Rigging for Ships
 

katy wrote:


Too bad...the smell of hemp ropes is a nostalgic thing...maybe they can
put it in spray cans so they can spray it around boats fitted with wire
to keep the atmosphere...


I agree, you may be on to a good money making ideal.
I would like several nautical smells put in spray cans.

Cypress Boat Cabin
Oyster Reef at low tide
Spec Trout Water Mellon
Windward shore Mud
Open Ocean Breeze
Crazy Cajan Crab Boil

And to spray people you hate!

3 day old Failed Freezer Squid
Holding Tank Horror
Poggie Boats of Cameron
And Fish Oil Spray

Joe


DSK September 27th 06 02:43 PM

Wire Rigging for Ships
 
katysails wrote:
Too bad...the smell of hemp ropes is a nostalgic thing...maybe they can
put it in spray cans so they can spray it around boats fitted with wire
to keep the atmosphere...



Maybe the same folks would like clip-on gaff sails (tanbark
of course), instant baggywrinkle, and scurvy pills (one that
give you scurvy, not cure it). For that old-time deep-sea
feeling.


Joe wrote:
I agree, you may be on to a good money making ideal.
I would like several nautical smells put in spray cans.

Cypress Boat Cabin
Oyster Reef at low tide
Spec Trout Water Mellon
Windward shore Mud
Open Ocean Breeze
Crazy Cajan Crab Boil


Don't forget these additions
"Fresh Paint" (available in Topsides or Anti-Fouling)
"Faint Whiff of Reliable & Well-Tuned Engine"
For the West Coasters, "Sea Lion on Nearby Channel Bouy"


And to spray people you hate!

3 day old Failed Freezer Squid
Holding Tank Horror
Poggie Boats of Cameron
And Fish Oil Spray


Gets rid of unwanted guests & mothers-in-law. How about one
of my favorites, "Burnt Wiring"

They already sell CDs of nautical sounds, but clearly there
is room for expansion in this market.

DSK


katy September 27th 06 02:52 PM

Wire Rigging for Ships
 
Scout wrote:
they'll build a boat that simply cannot sink!
Scout

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
It's a fad. It won't last.

Scotty

"Bart" wrote in message
ups.com...
Wire Rigging for Ships
Wire rigging for ships: - The Liverpool Courier says

three-fourths of
all the ships now fitted out of Liverpool are rigged with

wire rope. It
is described as a fourth less in weight, and not on-half

the bulk of
that made of hemp, and the cost is also 25 per cent less.

It is much
less susceptible than hemp of atmospheric changes, and it

is predicted
that in a few years it will supersede hemp rope for

standing rigging. A
recent trial of wire, hemp and Manilla ropes was recently

made at the
King's dock, Liverpool. The straining tests showed the

immense
superiority of wire rope over that made even of the best

fibrous
material. The testing of the hempen ropes proved the

strength of
Manilla to be far superior to Russian hemp, taking many of

the
merchants, shipmasters and riggers present by surprise, as

a different
opinion had been entertained by many of the gentlemen

present.
The English have the advantage of us in regard to iron

ships was well
as wire rigging, on account of the cheapness of material.

Iron ship are
increasing in number in England, and in many respects they

are superior
to wood, but they can not be built here until iron becomes

cheaper. An
iron ship in England cost only about the same as a

first-class wooden
ship, but in the United States would probably cost three

times as much
as a wood-built ship. The depreciation on an iron ship is

much less
than one of wood, and when the iron vessel is worn out,

the old
material will go far towards paying for new. These are

important
considerations. There is no one thing which we so much

need, as the
ability to produce iron as cheaply as England. We have the

crude
materials in abundance, cropping out on the surface of the

earth
instead of being compelled to dig hundreds of feet deep

for it, but we
need the skill and the labor which is requisite.


----------------------------------------------------------

----------------------
Daily Traveller, Boston, 1857 August 31.




They did that already...it sank....

katy September 27th 06 02:57 PM

Wire Rigging for Ships
 
Joe wrote:
katy wrote:

Too bad...the smell of hemp ropes is a nostalgic thing...maybe they can
put it in spray cans so they can spray it around boats fitted with wire
to keep the atmosphere...


I agree, you may be on to a good money making ideal.
I would like several nautical smells put in spray cans.

Cypress Boat Cabin
Oyster Reef at low tide


you must have better smelling oyster reefs than we do...out stink if its
hot...

Spec Trout Water Mellon


They have melon sprays already but mixed with speckled trout? yech....

Windward shore Mud
Open Ocean Breeze
Crazy Cajan Crab Boil

And to spray people you hate!

3 day old Failed Freezer Squid


gag

Holding Tank Horror


been there...that's a bad one...

Poggie Boats of Cameron


never smelled one but I'm assuming it must be pretty bad

And Fish Oil Spray


but your cat (and every other cat in the neighbothood) will love you...

Joe


katy September 27th 06 03:07 PM

Wire Rigging for Ships
 
DSK wrote:
katysails wrote:
Too bad...the smell of hemp ropes is a nostalgic thing...maybe they can
put it in spray cans so they can spray it around boats fitted with wire
to keep the atmosphere...



Maybe the same folks would like clip-on gaff sails (tanbark of course),
instant baggywrinkle, and scurvy pills (one that give you scurvy, not
cure it). For that old-time deep-sea feeling.


Joe wrote:
I agree, you may be on to a good money making ideal.
I would like several nautical smells put in spray cans.

Cypress Boat Cabin
Oyster Reef at low tide
Spec Trout Water Mellon
Windward shore Mud
Open Ocean Breeze
Crazy Cajan Crab Boil


Don't forget these additions
"Fresh Paint" (available in Topsides or Anti-Fouling)
"Faint Whiff of Reliable & Well-Tuned Engine"
For the West Coasters, "Sea Lion on Nearby Channel Bouy"


And to spray people you hate!

3 day old Failed Freezer Squid
Holding Tank Horror
Poggie Boats of Cameron
And Fish Oil Spray


Gets rid of unwanted guests & mothers-in-law. How about one of my
favorites, "Burnt Wiring"

They already sell CDs of nautical sounds, but clearly there is room for
expansion in this market.

DSK

You
ve hit on another idea there....CD's....we could go back to the rude
anchorage discussion and make a CD called Banging Halyardsn,Choking
Diesel Engine, Bad Carburator Atomic 4, and Seagull Denied....

Martin Baxter September 27th 06 03:30 PM

Wire Rigging for Ships
 
katy wrote:

Too bad...the smell of hemp ropes is a nostalgic thing...maybe they can
put it in spray cans so they can spray it around boats fitted with wire
to keep the atmosphere...


I'll chainsaw the bottom off an old telephone pole for you Katy, you can
cut it into chips and put it in little bags to make creosote sachets!

Cheers
Marty

Joe September 27th 06 03:56 PM

Wire Rigging for Ships
 

katy wrote:
Joe wrote:
katy wrote:

Too bad...the smell of hemp ropes is a nostalgic thing...maybe they can
put it in spray cans so they can spray it around boats fitted with wire
to keep the atmosphere...


I agree, you may be on to a good money making ideal.
I would like several nautical smells put in spray cans.

Cypress Boat Cabin
Oyster Reef at low tide


you must have better smelling oyster reefs than we do...out stink if its
hot...


It's an aquired taste.

Spec Trout Water Mellon


They have melon sprays already but mixed with speckled trout? yech....


No Katy, not many people know this, but a school of speckled trout
smell almost exactly like a watermellon patch. I have no ideal why, but
have smelled it many times.

Windward shore Mud
Open Ocean Breeze
Crazy Cajan Crab Boil

And to spray people you hate!

3 day old Failed Freezer Squid


gag

No doubt...Had 30 pounds go bad in a walk in once..Even after the
clorox scrubbing is was still gaggable.


Holding Tank Horror


been there...that's a bad one...

Poggie Boats of Cameron


never smelled one but I'm assuming it must be pretty bad


You can smell them over the horizon, they grind the poggies to a paste
and the decks are covered with spillage. BTW poggies are the fish used
in cat food, and the oil is extracted. Big biz here they purse sain and
have helos on the boats to spot schools.
A poggie boat Capt can make 2-300K and only work 3 mo a year.


And Fish Oil Spray


but your cat (and every other cat in the neighbothood) will love you...


It's horrid, I had to coat the interior voids of an old workboat with
it to slow down the rust, and it was 110 in the shade. I can still
taste it...uchhhh

joe

Joe



Bart September 27th 06 04:06 PM

Wire Rigging for Ships
 
Good one Doug. lol

DSK wrote:

Gets rid of unwanted guests & mothers-in-law. How about one
of my favorites, "Burnt Wiring"



katy September 27th 06 04:21 PM

Wire Rigging for Ships
 
Martin Baxter wrote:
katy wrote:
Too bad...the smell of hemp ropes is a nostalgic thing...maybe they can
put it in spray cans so they can spray it around boats fitted with wire
to keep the atmosphere...


I'll chainsaw the bottom off an old telephone pole for you Katy, you can
cut it into chips and put it in little bags to make creosote sachets!

Cheers
Marty


mmmm...yum...I like going out to the traintracks and sniffing the
railroad tues....

Joe September 27th 06 04:42 PM

Wire Rigging for Ships
 

katy wrote:
Joe wrote:
katy wrote:

Too bad...the smell of hemp ropes is a nostalgic thing...maybe they can
put it in spray cans so they can spray it around boats fitted with wire
to keep the atmosphere...


I agree, you may be on to a good money making ideal.
I would like several nautical smells put in spray cans.

Cypress Boat Cabin
Oyster Reef at low tide


you must have better smelling oyster reefs than we do...out stink if its
hot...

Spec Trout Water Mellon


They have melon sprays already but mixed with speckled trout? yech....

Windward shore Mud
Open Ocean Breeze
Crazy Cajan Crab Boil

And to spray people you hate!

3 day old Failed Freezer Squid


gag

Holding Tank Horror


been there...that's a bad one...

Poggie Boats of Cameron


never smelled one but I'm assuming it must be pretty bad

And Fish Oil Spray


but your cat (and every other cat in the neighbothood) will love you...

Joe


Oh and one other favorite!

Cresole covered pilons on a hot summer day.

Joe





Edgar September 27th 06 06:15 PM

Wire Rigging for Ships
 
Do you refer to the Seagull outboard motor here? Certainly the noise and
smell of one of those would be highly nostalgic. I have one that is more
than 50 years old but I know it will start when I want it.

"katy" wrote in message
...
DSK wrote:
katysails wrote:
Too bad...the smell of hemp ropes is a nostalgic thing...maybe they

can
put it in spray cans so they can spray it around boats fitted with

wire
to keep the atmosphere...


Maybe the same folks would like clip-on gaff sails (tanbark of course),
instant baggywrinkle, and scurvy pills (one that give you scurvy, not
cure it). For that old-time deep-sea feeling.


Joe wrote:
I agree, you may be on to a good money making ideal.
I would like several nautical smells put in spray cans.

Cypress Boat Cabin
Oyster Reef at low tide
Spec Trout Water Mellon
Windward shore Mud
Open Ocean Breeze
Crazy Cajan Crab Boil


Don't forget these additions
"Fresh Paint" (available in Topsides or Anti-Fouling)
"Faint Whiff of Reliable & Well-Tuned Engine"
For the West Coasters, "Sea Lion on Nearby Channel Bouy"


And to spray people you hate!

3 day old Failed Freezer Squid
Holding Tank Horror
Poggie Boats of Cameron
And Fish Oil Spray


Gets rid of unwanted guests & mothers-in-law. How about one of my
favorites, "Burnt Wiring"

They already sell CDs of nautical sounds, but clearly there is room for
expansion in this market.

DSK

You
ve hit on another idea there....CD's....we could go back to the rude
anchorage discussion and make a CD called Banging Halyardsn,Choking
Diesel Engine, Bad Carburator Atomic 4, and Seagull Denied....




katy September 27th 06 06:26 PM

Wire Rigging for Ships
 
Edgar wrote:
Do you refer to the Seagull outboard motor here? Certainly the noise and
smell of one of those would be highly nostalgic. I have one that is more
than 50 years old but I know it will start when I want it.

"katy" wrote in message
...
DSK wrote:
katysails wrote:
Too bad...the smell of hemp ropes is a nostalgic thing...maybe they

can
put it in spray cans so they can spray it around boats fitted with

wire
to keep the atmosphere...
Maybe the same folks would like clip-on gaff sails (tanbark of course),
instant baggywrinkle, and scurvy pills (one that give you scurvy, not
cure it). For that old-time deep-sea feeling.


Joe wrote:
I agree, you may be on to a good money making ideal.
I would like several nautical smells put in spray cans.

Cypress Boat Cabin
Oyster Reef at low tide
Spec Trout Water Mellon
Windward shore Mud
Open Ocean Breeze
Crazy Cajan Crab Boil

Don't forget these additions
"Fresh Paint" (available in Topsides or Anti-Fouling)
"Faint Whiff of Reliable & Well-Tuned Engine"
For the West Coasters, "Sea Lion on Nearby Channel Bouy"


And to spray people you hate!

3 day old Failed Freezer Squid
Holding Tank Horror
Poggie Boats of Cameron
And Fish Oil Spray

Gets rid of unwanted guests & mothers-in-law. How about one of my
favorites, "Burnt Wiring"

They already sell CDs of nautical sounds, but clearly there is room for
expansion in this market.

DSK

You
ve hit on another idea there....CD's....we could go back to the rude
anchorage discussion and make a CD called Banging Halyardsn,Choking
Diesel Engine, Bad Carburator Atomic 4, and Seagull Denied....



I was thinking of a squalling bird, but I do have knowledge of the
engine you're speaking of and yes, that would also fit....

DSK September 27th 06 07:07 PM

Wire Rigging for Ships
 
Edgar wrote:
Do you refer to the Seagull outboard motor here? Certainly the noise and
smell of one of those would be highly nostalgic. I have one that is more
than 50 years old but I know it will start when I want it.


My father had one of these for one of his boats. He really
liked it although it seemed a bit cantankerous at the best
of times... I could rarely get it to run, and after a while,
hated it.

Since then I've sailed with other people who have much the
same results, including two who were expert mechanics and
claimed to know these engines intimately.

Maybe the secret to getting a Br-Seagul to "run when you
want it" is to only want it when it's already running. Or
maybe all the ones I've seen have been under a curse?

DSK


Edgar September 28th 06 12:21 PM

Wire Rigging for Ships
 
Once the motor has run in you need to ignore what they say in the
instruction book and cut back on the amount of oil you put in the mixture.
Otherwise the plugs keep oiling up.
Apart from oiled plugs dirt in the fuel is about the only thing that will
prevent it starting when you want it.
You only need three tools and you can fix any problem without removing the
motor from the boat.
And since the water pump impeller is metal not rubber you can run it up
ashore clamped in a vice if you are really worried whether it will start
sfter being neglected all winter...
"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Edgar wrote:
Do you refer to the Seagull outboard motor here? Certainly the noise and
smell of one of those would be highly nostalgic. I have one that is more
than 50 years old but I know it will start when I want it.


My father had one of these for one of his boats. He really
liked it although it seemed a bit cantankerous at the best
of times... I could rarely get it to run, and after a while,
hated it.

Since then I've sailed with other people who have much the
same results, including two who were expert mechanics and
claimed to know these engines intimately.

Maybe the secret to getting a Br-Seagul to "run when you
want it" is to only want it when it's already running. Or
maybe all the ones I've seen have been under a curse?

DSK




Martin Baxter September 28th 06 01:14 PM

Wire Rigging for Ships
 
DSK wrote:


Maybe the secret to getting a Br-Seagul to "run when you
want it" is to only want it when it's already running. Or
maybe all the ones I've seen have been under a curse?


Doug:

I think the ones you were dealing are exception, my brother in law has
one, 2 Hp. or so, starts and runs like a top, (well maybe more like a
treadle powered Singer) It's got a ridiculous 4 blade prop that looks
like it was designed by a ten year old, 4 dead straight slaps attached
to a hub.

Cheers
Marty

DSK


katy September 28th 06 02:29 PM

Wire Rigging for Ships
 
Edgar wrote:
Once the motor has run in you need to ignore what they say in the
instruction book and cut back on the amount of oil you put in the mixture.
Otherwise the plugs keep oiling up.
Apart from oiled plugs dirt in the fuel is about the only thing that will
prevent it starting when you want it.
You only need three tools and you can fix any problem without removing the
motor from the boat.
And since the water pump impeller is metal not rubber you can run it up
ashore clamped in a vice if you are really worried whether it will start
sfter being neglected all winter...
"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Edgar wrote:
Do you refer to the Seagull outboard motor here? Certainly the noise and
smell of one of those would be highly nostalgic. I have one that is more
than 50 years old but I know it will start when I want it.

My father had one of these for one of his boats. He really
liked it although it seemed a bit cantankerous at the best
of times... I could rarely get it to run, and after a while,
hated it.

Since then I've sailed with other people who have much the
same results, including two who were expert mechanics and
claimed to know these engines intimately.

Maybe the secret to getting a Br-Seagul to "run when you
want it" is to only want it when it's already running. Or
maybe all the ones I've seen have been under a curse?

DSK



I liked the way it sounded..and jigged around...was a cute little
engine...had much more charavter than the Merc my Dad finally
bought..that was just boring...pull the string and it went...


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