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Scotty September 24th 06 07:49 PM

Sailing
 
Went sailing this week, no need to kedge off the dock as my
Yanmar aux. started and ran fine. The wind was great , no
need to sail backwards. No need to argue ColRegs with anyone
as it was mostly other sailboats out. Didn't have to hear
any whining about handles left in the winch or the main is
sheeted in 2 inches too much. No rust to chip and no broken
bones.

No need for any skinny flat chested skanks onboard to ruin
scenery like this;
http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2...93894541IkXSAm

No need to ''screen'' any dumb Hollywood movies for I could
lay in my bunk and look at the Milky Way at night.
No need to worry about how much scope to use, as there was
only one other sailboat in the anchorage;
http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2...93894541smYtVD

Just four straight days of great sailing, and I don't mean 1
hour daysails and returning to the slip each day.

Got to try out the new Genny that I made;
http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2...93894541fZuEjM


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_








Ellen MacArthur September 24th 06 08:20 PM

Sailing
 

"Scotty" wrote
| Went sailing this week, no need to kedge off the dock as my
| Yanmar aux. started and ran fine.
:-)

| The wind was great , no
| need to sail backwards.

Your no Capt. JG!

| No need to argue ColRegs with anyone
| as it was mostly other sailboats out.

Why argue colregs. Listen to Jeff. He's the expert.

| Didn't have to hear
| any whining about handles left in the winch or the main is
| sheeted in 2 inches too much. No rust to chip and no broken
| bones.

You go.....

| No need for any skinny flat chested skanks onboard to ruin
| scenery like this;
| http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2...93894541IkXSAm

Nice peaceful little marina. Is it fresh or salt water? You wouldn't be talking about Capt. Rob's
model being skinny now would you? I think she's attractive. Small breasts are better than big ones....

| No need to ''screen'' any dumb Hollywood movies for I could
| lay in my bunk and look at the Milky Way at night.

Did you see Orion's belt right straight up about midnight?

| No need to worry about how much scope to use, as there was
| only one other sailboat in the anchorage;
| http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2...93894541smYtVD

Black boats are too hot in the summer time around here.....

| Just four straight days of great sailing, and I don't mean 1
| hour daysails and returning to the slip each day.

YES! Capt. Rob is pretty clueless. He thinks sailing is a social gathering to brag about.

| Got to try out the new Genny that I made;
| http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2...93894541fZuEjM


Wow! I'm impressed. You made that? Cool. Is it a kit or did you make it from scratch?
It's probably a Sailrite sail? Do you have their sewing machine too. Did you sew it or
did your wife or girlfriend sew it?
Great post Scotty. You've got sailing in your blood. I can tell. What kinda boat do you
sail?


Cheers,
Ellen



Capt. Rob September 24th 06 09:27 PM

Sailing
 
No need to ''screen'' any dumb Hollywood movies for I could
lay in my bunk and look at the Milky Way at night.


Who knew that The Loved One and Inherit The Wind were "dumb" Hollywood
movies or that anyone compared them to the Milky Way?

Live and learn...or in some cases, just live.



RB
35s5
NY


John Cairns September 24th 06 09:33 PM

Sailing
 

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
Went sailing this week, no need to kedge off the dock as my
Yanmar aux. started and ran fine. The wind was great , no
need to sail backwards. No need to argue ColRegs with anyone
as it was mostly other sailboats out. Didn't have to hear
any whining about handles left in the winch or the main is
sheeted in 2 inches too much. No rust to chip and no broken
bones.

No need for any skinny flat chested skanks onboard to ruin
scenery like this;
http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2...93894541IkXSAm

No need to ''screen'' any dumb Hollywood movies for I could
lay in my bunk and look at the Milky Way at night.
No need to worry about how much scope to use, as there was
only one other sailboat in the anchorage;
http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2...93894541smYtVD

Just four straight days of great sailing, and I don't mean 1
hour daysails and returning to the slip each day.

Got to try out the new Genny that I made;
http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2...93894541fZuEjM


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_


Fall sailing is the best, but the season is way too short and the water is
way too shallow. Sailrite?

John Cairns



Scotty September 24th 06 11:54 PM

Sailing
 
good eye, it's a 130%.

SV

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 14:49:36 -0400, "Scotty"

said:

Got to try out the new Genny that I made;


http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2...093894541fZuEj

M

Looks pretty good, Scotty. How big is it? Looks like 130

or under, yes?



Scotty September 24th 06 11:56 PM

Sailing
 

"John Cairns" wrote in
message
...

Fall sailing is the best, but the season is way too short

and the water is
way too shallow. Sailrite?



Yup, better wind, cooler for sleeping, less powerboats.
Does your water shrink as it gets colder?
Sailrite, yup.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_



Scotty September 25th 06 12:02 AM

Sailing
 

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote

| The wind was great , no
| need to sail backwards.

Your no Capt. JG!


Thank God for small favors!




| No need for any skinny flat chested skanks onboard to

ruin
| scenery like this;
|

http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2...93894541IkXSAm

Nice peaceful little marina. Is it fresh or salt

water?


Fresh, with a little salt. It's a creek off the Ches. Bay.
Tidal.



| No need to ''screen'' any dumb Hollywood movies for I

could
| lay in my bunk and look at the Milky Way at night.

Did you see Orion's belt right straight up about

midnight?

Don't know.



Wow! I'm impressed. You made that? Cool. Is it a kit

or did you make it from scratch?
It's probably a Sailrite sail? Do you have their sewing

machine too. Did you sew it or
did your wife or girlfriend sew it?



Sailrite kit with one of their machines sewed by me. Sewing
is a very old manly tradition.





Great post Scotty. You've got sailing in your blood.

I can tell. What kinda boat do you
sail?



Seidelmann 295.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_



John Cairns September 25th 06 12:14 AM

Sailing
 

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"John Cairns" wrote in
message
...

Fall sailing is the best, but the season is way too short

and the water is
way too shallow. Sailrite?



Yup, better wind, cooler for sleeping, less powerboats.
Does your water shrink as it gets colder?
Sailrite, yup.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_


Pretty much, we were dragging pretty badly last Wednesday night, went down
to my boat and it looked pretty close to sitting on the bottom. Wind starts
blowing out of the W-NW a lot this time of year, which doesn't help either.
Great sailing tho.

John Cairns



Scotty September 25th 06 12:29 AM

Sailing
 

"John Cairns" wrote in
message
t...

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"John Cairns" wrote

in
message
...

Fall sailing is the best, but the season is way too

short
and the water is
way too shallow. Sailrite?



Yup, better wind, cooler for sleeping, less powerboats.
Does your water shrink as it gets colder?
Sailrite, yup.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_


Pretty much, we were dragging pretty badly last Wednesday

night, went down
to my boat and it looked pretty close to sitting on the

bottom. Wind starts
blowing out of the W-NW a lot this time of year, which

doesn't help either.
Great sailing tho.



Wednesday, we had a real low low tide from A Nor'wester cold
front, then a southern warm front blew through on Friday and
we had a super high tide. great sailing though. A bit cold
sailing at 1 AM.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_



Scotty September 25th 06 12:59 AM

Sailing
 

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 18:54:44 -0400, "Scotty"

said:

good eye, it's a 130%.


That seems to be the recommended size for my boat too in a

RF sail. I'm a
bit reluctant to give up the 150 for those light air days,

of which we have
a fair number on the Sound even in the Eastern end.


Get an Assy for those days.

Scotty



Ellen MacArthur September 25th 06 12:59 AM

Sailing
 

"Charlie Morgan" wrote
| Scotty, but lets be real. You did
| this to save money more than anything else. You did not have the experience to
| measure and design a sail on your own. This effort is essentially a "paint by
| numbers" project. It's a generic sail design, executed by a neophyte. Your 20th
| sail will begin to have some quality. You could have bought a better sail by
| mailorder.


Your such a negative person. You must have a miserable life. God bless you.


Cheers,
Ellen

Ringmaster September 25th 06 02:27 AM

Sailing
 
Nice pictures Scott and a nice looking headsail. I could use a new
Pentex #2 when you have a chance.


Scotty September 25th 06 02:46 AM

Sailing
 

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 19:59:43 -0400, "Scotty"

said:

Get an Assy for those days.


Got one. But it's pretty hard to beat with an Assy.


Turn.



Scotty September 25th 06 02:47 AM

Sailing
 

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 19:32:06 -0400, Charlie Morgan

said:

You did
this to save money more than anything else. You did not

have the experience to
measure and design a sail on your own. This effort is

essentially a "paint by
numbers" project. It's a generic sail design, executed by

a neophyte.

Nothing wrong with that. Is the added cost of having it

done by a sailmaker
really justified by whatever additional performance you

might get out of it?
For most sailors I'd guess the answer is no.


it wasn't about the money, but Krusty wouldn't understand
that.

Scotty



DSK September 25th 06 02:57 AM

Sailing
 
"Scotty" said:
good eye, it's a 130%.



Dave wrote:
That seems to be the recommended size for my boat too in a RF sail. I'm a
bit reluctant to give up the 150 for those light air days, of which we have
a fair number on the Sound even in the Eastern end.


For light air you should have a light 155, and maybe keep a
140 multi-weight or foam luff on the furler. A 150 is giving
up enough area to be noticable, plus is likely to be some
sailmaker's concept of a "heavy #1" which is not a good
light air sail. Better than a 140, prob'ly, unless the 140
is specifically built for a wide range of conditions.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Capt. JG September 25th 06 05:51 AM

Sailing
 
Yeah, well I sailed all weekend too, and I didn't have to teach my students
how kedge off the dock either. Today, we did reefing drills for 1/2 day.
That was a bunch of fun.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
Went sailing this week, no need to kedge off the dock as my
Yanmar aux. started and ran fine. The wind was great , no
need to sail backwards. No need to argue ColRegs with anyone
as it was mostly other sailboats out. Didn't have to hear
any whining about handles left in the winch or the main is
sheeted in 2 inches too much. No rust to chip and no broken
bones.

No need for any skinny flat chested skanks onboard to ruin
scenery like this;
http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2...93894541IkXSAm

No need to ''screen'' any dumb Hollywood movies for I could
lay in my bunk and look at the Milky Way at night.
No need to worry about how much scope to use, as there was
only one other sailboat in the anchorage;
http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2...93894541smYtVD

Just four straight days of great sailing, and I don't mean 1
hour daysails and returning to the slip each day.

Got to try out the new Genny that I made;
http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2...93894541fZuEjM


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_










Capt. JG September 25th 06 05:52 AM

Sailing
 
That would be a big favor. :-)

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote

| The wind was great , no
| need to sail backwards.

Your no Capt. JG!


Thank God for small favors!




| No need for any skinny flat chested skanks onboard to

ruin
| scenery like this;
|

http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2...93894541IkXSAm

Nice peaceful little marina. Is it fresh or salt

water?


Fresh, with a little salt. It's a creek off the Ches. Bay.
Tidal.



| No need to ''screen'' any dumb Hollywood movies for I

could
| lay in my bunk and look at the Milky Way at night.

Did you see Orion's belt right straight up about

midnight?

Don't know.



Wow! I'm impressed. You made that? Cool. Is it a kit

or did you make it from scratch?
It's probably a Sailrite sail? Do you have their sewing

machine too. Did you sew it or
did your wife or girlfriend sew it?



Sailrite kit with one of their machines sewed by me. Sewing
is a very old manly tradition.





Great post Scotty. You've got sailing in your blood.

I can tell. What kinda boat do you
sail?



Seidelmann 295.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_





Capt. JG September 25th 06 05:54 AM

Sailing
 
Wow.. our "big" jib is a 110%. :-)

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"DSK" wrote in message
...
"Scotty" said:
good eye, it's a 130%.



Dave wrote:
That seems to be the recommended size for my boat too in a RF sail. I'm a
bit reluctant to give up the 150 for those light air days, of which we
have
a fair number on the Sound even in the Eastern end.


For light air you should have a light 155, and maybe keep a 140
multi-weight or foam luff on the furler. A 150 is giving up enough area to
be noticable, plus is likely to be some sailmaker's concept of a "heavy
#1" which is not a good light air sail. Better than a 140, prob'ly, unless
the 140 is specifically built for a wide range of conditions.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King




Joe September 25th 06 02:36 PM

Sailing
 
Hey Scotty, looks like the perfect and relaxing trip.

Just because the skipper of another vessel is an arse.. is no need to
call his passengers " Skank"...... just not nice...and in that case not
true.

The new sail looks great, but why do sail makers not take in account
the bow rails and let a sail bend around the rail is beyone me, seems
like that would screw up the effiency of the sail and cause chaffing.

You boat looks like it's in tip top condition, I'm glad you got her
back in the water.

Joe


Scotty wrote:
Went sailing this week, no need to kedge off the dock as my
Yanmar aux. started and ran fine. The wind was great , no
need to sail backwards. No need to argue ColRegs with anyone
as it was mostly other sailboats out. Didn't have to hear
any whining about handles left in the winch or the main is
sheeted in 2 inches too much. No rust to chip and no broken
bones.

No need for any skinny flat chested skanks onboard to ruin
scenery like this;
http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2...93894541IkXSAm

No need to ''screen'' any dumb Hollywood movies for I could
lay in my bunk and look at the Milky Way at night.
No need to worry about how much scope to use, as there was
only one other sailboat in the anchorage;
http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2...93894541smYtVD

Just four straight days of great sailing, and I don't mean 1
hour daysails and returning to the slip each day.

Got to try out the new Genny that I made;
http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/2...93894541fZuEjM


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_



katy September 25th 06 02:42 PM

Sailing
 
Capt. JG wrote:
Wow.. our "big" jib is a 110%. :-)

Indicative if the difference in definitions between "light air" in San
Francisco Bay and the Chesapeake.....

Scotty September 25th 06 02:50 PM

Sailing
 
Well sure, you're in a windy area.

SV


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Wow.. our "big" jib is a 110%. :-)

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"DSK" wrote in message
...
"Scotty" said:
good eye, it's a 130%.


Dave wrote:
That seems to be the recommended size for my boat too

in a RF sail. I'm a
bit reluctant to give up the 150 for those light air

days, of which we
have
a fair number on the Sound even in the Eastern end.


For light air you should have a light 155, and maybe

keep a 140
multi-weight or foam luff on the furler. A 150 is giving

up enough area to
be noticable, plus is likely to be some sailmaker's

concept of a "heavy
#1" which is not a good light air sail. Better than a

140, prob'ly, unless
the 140 is specifically built for a wide range of

conditions.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King






Scotty September 25th 06 02:56 PM

Sailing
 
"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hey Scotty, looks like the perfect and relaxing trip.


It was. Those 4 days alone were worth the price of a crane.



Just because the skipper of another vessel is an arse..

is no need to
call his passengers " Skank"...... just not nice...and in

that case not
true.


What skipper, I was just generalizing.


The new sail looks great, but why do sail makers not take

in account
the bow rails and let a sail bend around the rail is

beyone me, seems
like that would screw up the effiency of the sail and

cause chaffing.

Thanks Joe. It was fun to make. As soon as I rolled it out
I noticed it on the bow rail. I think I can raise the whole
furler another 4 inches, that might do it. BTW, when I'm
close hauled, sheeted in tight, it is inside the rail.
I don't think chafe should be a problen on those smooth
rails, if it is, I can add a patch.


You boat looks like it's in tip top condition, I'm glad

you got her
back in the water.



Still needs some work ( don't all boats ), but she's good to
go now. Trying to negotiate a longer trip with the boss.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_



DSK September 25th 06 04:07 PM

Sailing
 
Dave wrote:
If I correctly understand you, you're suggesting putting a 140 multi-weight
or foam luff on the furler as the regular sail, and removing that from the
furler and replacing it with a light 155 for light air. Yes?


That would be one way, but not really what i meant to suggest.

The multi 140 would most likely be a better sail for light
air then the medium weight 150 you have now; and would offer
good potential to change gears without a lot of work or
expense sunk into sail inventory.

A light 155, and changing down to successive smaller &
heavier sails would be the best way to go; but it also leads
to storing bulky & sometimes wet sails in limited space down
below. The light 155 is not going to roll up well, and is
not going to roller-reef worth a crap. A sail left on a
roller needs to a bit flatter & heavier; to be a good roller
furling sail requires most of the fullness up forward and/or
a foam luff. I have seen a few sails with a very cool
inflatable luff, but am not sure how well these last or who
is making them nowadays (last saw one about ten years ago).

IIRC your boat has an IOR style rig, mast head with small
main & big foretriangle; very much a headsail-driven boat.
If you have only one headsail, since light air is so common
in your area, a 140 seems to me to be about the smallest
you'd want. If you could have 3 headsails, you could get
better performance (especially to windward & in light air)
but that may not be worth it to you, it's hard to justify
the extra work & expense (not to mention giving up much of
the cabin to sail stowage).

A good heavy air jib is also really nice, have you tried a
90% or 100 'blade'? This is a low-clewed narrow & flat sail
for beating, makes a HUGE difference in how the boat goes &
is much easier to handle.

Hope this is a little more clear.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Joe September 25th 06 04:42 PM

Sailing
 

Scotty wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hey Scotty, looks like the perfect and relaxing trip.


It was. Those 4 days alone were worth the price of a crane.



Just because the skipper of another vessel is an arse..

is no need to
call his passengers " Skank"...... just not nice...and in

that case not
true.


What skipper, I was just generalizing.


Bull****! And it's just not nice, beside it will dis-courage him from
posting more pictures.

And it may also dis-courage others from posting pictures of nealy naked
or naked girls on sailboats, it's just not right, so stop it!



The new sail looks great, but why do sail makers not take

in account
the bow rails and let a sail bend around the rail is

beyone me, seems
like that would screw up the effiency of the sail and

cause chaffing.

Thanks Joe. It was fun to make. As soon as I rolled it out
I noticed it on the bow rail. I think I can raise the whole
furler another 4 inches, that might do it. BTW, when I'm
close hauled, sheeted in tight, it is inside the rail.
I don't think chafe should be a problen on those smooth
rails, if it is, I can add a patch.


http://sports.webshots.com/photo/276...63212926qxyWne

I had mine made to clear the rails and provide a bit more visibility.
It's a trade off..a loss of power, but it's nice to see were your
going.


You boat looks like it's in tip top condition, I'm glad

you got her
back in the water.



Still needs some work ( don't all boats ), but she's good to
go now. Trying to negotiate a longer trip with the boss.


Good luck.

Joe


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_



DSK September 25th 06 05:05 PM

Sailing
 
The multi 140 would most likely be a better sail for light
air then the medium weight 150 you have now



Dave wrote:
Something like this?

http://www.kappasails.com/sails.htm#reefgen


Yes. Is Kappa local to you? You can get a generic sail like
this, it's been long enough that the technology has filtered
down to the mail-order 3rd-world sweatshop suppliers, but
IMHO a local sailmaker is worth some more money... will be
able to fit the sail properly and should be able to make a
better recommendation (for example, would you want a 145
reefable down to 130 or a 140 reefable down further?); also
will demonstrate how to set it for varying conditions as
well as hammering out any problems.

Here is North's version (the evil empire):
http://www.northsails.com/north_amer...f2_genoas.html

I have not seen a North 'rope luff' which sounds heavier
than foam. Also they have a fancier panel layout, Kappa's
"parallelogram" sail just looks like an old fashioned miter
cut to me. Not that that's bad.

One thing to remember about these sails is that they replace
two sails but are not really a whole headsail inventory in
one. My observation is that they suffer when reefed more
than 10% and at 20% are just as bad as an old single-weight
non-contoured sail.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Scotty September 25th 06 05:52 PM

Sailing
 

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com..
..

Scotty wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

ups.com...
Hey Scotty, looks like the perfect and relaxing trip.


It was. Those 4 days alone were worth the price of a

crane.



Just because the skipper of another vessel is an

arse..
is no need to
call his passengers " Skank"...... just not nice...and

in
that case not
true.


What skipper, I was just generalizing.


Bull****! And it's just not nice, beside it will

dis-courage him from
posting more pictures.



discourage whom?




Thanks Joe. It was fun to make. As soon as I rolled it

out
I noticed it on the bow rail. I think I can raise the

whole
furler another 4 inches, that might do it. BTW, when I'm
close hauled, sheeted in tight, it is inside the rail.
I don't think chafe should be a problen on those smooth
rails, if it is, I can add a patch.


http://sports.webshots.com/photo/276...63212926qxyWne

I had mine made to clear the rails and provide a bit more

visibility.
It's a trade off..a loss of power, but it's nice to see

were your
going.



Well, I don't have a pilot house, and I like to sit on the
low sode so visability isn't too much of a problem.
Though, the other night I came real close to a green can,
it's light was out and I didn't see it till I was close.




--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_



Scotty September 25th 06 05:53 PM

Sailing
 
it wasn't a can, it was a buoy.


"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"Joe" wrote in message

oups.com..
.

Scotty wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message


ups.com...
Hey Scotty, looks like the perfect and relaxing

trip.

It was. Those 4 days alone were worth the price of a

crane.



Just because the skipper of another vessel is an

arse..
is no need to
call his passengers " Skank"...... just not

nice...and
in
that case not
true.

What skipper, I was just generalizing.


Bull****! And it's just not nice, beside it will

dis-courage him from
posting more pictures.



discourage whom?




Thanks Joe. It was fun to make. As soon as I rolled

it
out
I noticed it on the bow rail. I think I can raise the

whole
furler another 4 inches, that might do it. BTW, when

I'm
close hauled, sheeted in tight, it is inside the rail.
I don't think chafe should be a problen on those

smooth
rails, if it is, I can add a patch.



http://sports.webshots.com/photo/276...63212926qxyWne

I had mine made to clear the rails and provide a bit

more
visibility.
It's a trade off..a loss of power, but it's nice to see

were your
going.



Well, I don't have a pilot house, and I like to sit on the
low sode so visability isn't too much of a problem.
Though, the other night I came real close to a green can,
it's light was out and I didn't see it till I was close.




--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_





Capt. JG September 25th 06 06:02 PM

Sailing
 
Oh... I knew it was something. :-)

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www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
Well sure, you're in a windy area.

SV


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Wow.. our "big" jib is a 110%. :-)

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"DSK" wrote in message
...
"Scotty" said:
good eye, it's a 130%.


Dave wrote:
That seems to be the recommended size for my boat too

in a RF sail. I'm a
bit reluctant to give up the 150 for those light air

days, of which we
have
a fair number on the Sound even in the Eastern end.

For light air you should have a light 155, and maybe

keep a 140
multi-weight or foam luff on the furler. A 150 is giving

up enough area to
be noticable, plus is likely to be some sailmaker's

concept of a "heavy
#1" which is not a good light air sail. Better than a

140, prob'ly, unless
the 140 is specifically built for a wide range of

conditions.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King








Capt. JG September 25th 06 06:04 PM

Sailing
 
According to the rigger who installed my furler, you should try to avoid
raising the jib too much. I guess 4" isn't that big of a deal, but I thought
I'm mention it.

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"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hey Scotty, looks like the perfect and relaxing trip.


It was. Those 4 days alone were worth the price of a crane.



Just because the skipper of another vessel is an arse..

is no need to
call his passengers " Skank"...... just not nice...and in

that case not
true.


What skipper, I was just generalizing.


The new sail looks great, but why do sail makers not take

in account
the bow rails and let a sail bend around the rail is

beyone me, seems
like that would screw up the effiency of the sail and

cause chaffing.

Thanks Joe. It was fun to make. As soon as I rolled it out
I noticed it on the bow rail. I think I can raise the whole
furler another 4 inches, that might do it. BTW, when I'm
close hauled, sheeted in tight, it is inside the rail.
I don't think chafe should be a problen on those smooth
rails, if it is, I can add a patch.


You boat looks like it's in tip top condition, I'm glad

you got her
back in the water.



Still needs some work ( don't all boats ), but she's good to
go now. Trying to negotiate a longer trip with the boss.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_





Scotty September 25th 06 06:10 PM

Sailing
 
did he say why?


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
According to the rigger who installed my furler, you

should try to avoid
raising the jib too much. I guess 4" isn't that big of a

deal, but I thought
I'm mention it.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
"Joe" wrote in message

ups.com...
Hey Scotty, looks like the perfect and relaxing trip.


It was. Those 4 days alone were worth the price of a

crane.



Just because the skipper of another vessel is an

arse..
is no need to
call his passengers " Skank"...... just not nice...and

in
that case not
true.


What skipper, I was just generalizing.


The new sail looks great, but why do sail makers not

take
in account
the bow rails and let a sail bend around the rail is

beyone me, seems
like that would screw up the effiency of the sail and

cause chaffing.

Thanks Joe. It was fun to make. As soon as I rolled it

out
I noticed it on the bow rail. I think I can raise the

whole
furler another 4 inches, that might do it. BTW, when I'm
close hauled, sheeted in tight, it is inside the rail.
I don't think chafe should be a problen on those smooth
rails, if it is, I can add a patch.


You boat looks like it's in tip top condition, I'm

glad
you got her
back in the water.



Still needs some work ( don't all boats ), but she's

good to
go now. Trying to negotiate a longer trip with the boss.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_







DSK September 25th 06 06:20 PM

Sailing
 
Scotty wrote:
it wasn't a can, it was a buoy.


I've never heard of Bouy Beer, is that a popular brand up there?

DSK



DSK September 25th 06 06:24 PM

Sailing
 
Dave wrote:
Yes. Kappa made a main for me this year. Clarke Bassett of Kappa actually
gave me a better price than I was getting from the made in China mail order
places.


If he made your main and also gives a good price, then he's
definitely the go-to guy. In fact I'd be interested in what
he recommends in terms of size headsail (for light air
common in western LIS) & reefability.

Another thought I have had is to equip a boat with only a
heavy #1 on up, and in real drifters, try using a
free-flying gennaker like a Code 0. It would have to be
cleverly rigged to be able to tack.

DSK


Capt. JG September 25th 06 06:42 PM

Sailing
 
Wasn't as efficient. I don't know the technical reasons, but next time I
talk to him (needs some minor adjustments), I'll ask.

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www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
did he say why?


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
According to the rigger who installed my furler, you

should try to avoid
raising the jib too much. I guess 4" isn't that big of a

deal, but I thought
I'm mention it.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
"Joe" wrote in message

ups.com...
Hey Scotty, looks like the perfect and relaxing trip.

It was. Those 4 days alone were worth the price of a

crane.



Just because the skipper of another vessel is an

arse..
is no need to
call his passengers " Skank"...... just not nice...and

in
that case not
true.

What skipper, I was just generalizing.


The new sail looks great, but why do sail makers not

take
in account
the bow rails and let a sail bend around the rail is
beyone me, seems
like that would screw up the effiency of the sail and
cause chaffing.

Thanks Joe. It was fun to make. As soon as I rolled it

out
I noticed it on the bow rail. I think I can raise the

whole
furler another 4 inches, that might do it. BTW, when I'm
close hauled, sheeted in tight, it is inside the rail.
I don't think chafe should be a problen on those smooth
rails, if it is, I can add a patch.


You boat looks like it's in tip top condition, I'm

glad
you got her
back in the water.


Still needs some work ( don't all boats ), but she's

good to
go now. Trying to negotiate a longer trip with the boss.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_










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