wind generators
 

I would be very grateful for opinions and experiences with the newer
wind generators such as Marine AirX, Aero6gen, KISS, Ampair. TIA.

wind generators
 

Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 01:05:53 GMT, Barry Gordon wrote:

I would be very grateful for opinions and experiences with the newer
wind generators such as Marine AirX, Aero6gen, KISS, Ampair. TIA.

Please don't anchor anywhere near me!

CWM


They are very, very noisy....

wind generators
 

Barry Gordon wrote:
I would be very grateful for opinions and experiences with the newer
wind generators such as Marine AirX, Aero6gen, KISS, Ampair. TIA.


Charlie Morgan wrote:
Please don't anchor anywhere near me!


That's easy.


katysails wrote:
They are very, very noisy....

The newer ones aren't. There are boats with relatively (3 ~4
yrs or less) AeroGen and Ampair units in our marina, on a
windy day can hear them if you stand right next to the boat.
I can't tell you anything directly about their charging
performance, but the owners seem happy with them.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

wind generators
 

"Barry Gordon" wrote
| I would be very grateful for opinions and experiences with the newer
| wind generators such as Marine AirX, Aero6gen, KISS, Ampair. TIA.

Don't even think about it.... If you want people to hate you get one. If you want people
to think your rude get one. If you want your boat to look stupid get one.


Cheers,
Ellen

wind generators
 

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
reenews.net...

"Barry Gordon" wrote
| I would be very grateful for opinions and experiences with the newer
| wind generators such as Marine AirX, Aero6gen, KISS, Ampair. TIA.

Don't even think about it.... If you want people to hate you get one.
If you want people
to think your rude get one. If you want your boat to look stupid get one.

I can understand the resentment regarding noise, but it seems like a wind
genny is right in tune with the philosophy of sailing.
Scout

wind generators
 

"Scout" wrote
| I can understand the resentment regarding noise, but it seems like a wind
| genny is right in tune with the philosophy of sailing.
|

Since when does sailing make electricity necessary? If you really want to sail you don't
need electricity. If you really need electricity maybe your not that interested in sailing?
Using wind to make electricity is a good thing. Putting it on a sailboat isn't.


Cheers,
Ellen

wind generators
 

Ellen MacArthur wrote:
"Scout" wrote
| I can understand the resentment regarding noise, but it seems like a wind
| genny is right in tune with the philosophy of sailing.
|

Since when does sailing make electricity necessary? If you really want to sail you don't
need electricity. If you really need electricity maybe your not that interested in sailing?
Using wind to make electricity is a good thing. Putting it on a sailboat isn't.


Cheers,
Ellen

Ellen,

First your pictures are very nice. You just keep posting them and
ignore thoses mean people and thier rude comments.

Second, some people make more use out of a sailboat than others. While
your boat is just above a coleman tent, some people have valid needs
for electricity. Wind generators make less noise than a gen set
running. The new amp airs seem to be very quiet, we have one across the
canal and i can not hear it when it is at full speed.

Where did you snap the pictures at? looks like Florida.

Joe

wind generators
 

Tow a propeller driven one if you sail. Wind driven ones are a nuisance
going all the time in the marina where you can plug into the mains if you
really need to charge batteries

"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
reenews.net...

"Barry Gordon" wrote
| I would be very grateful for opinions and experiences with the newer
| wind generators such as Marine AirX, Aero6gen, KISS, Ampair. TIA.

Don't even think about it.... If you want people to hate you get
one.
If you want people
to think your rude get one. If you want your boat to look stupid get
one.

I can understand the resentment regarding noise, but it seems like a wind
genny is right in tune with the philosophy of sailing.
Scout

wind generators
 

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
reenews.net...

"Scout" wrote
| I can understand the resentment regarding noise, but it seems like a
wind
| genny is right in tune with the philosophy of sailing.
|

Since when does sailing make electricity necessary? If you really want
to sail you don't
need electricity. If you really need electricity maybe your not that
interested in sailing?
Using wind to make electricity is a good thing. Putting it on a sailboat
isn't.

There is something magical about harnessing the wind, and it doesn't matter
much whether it's to push your boat along or provide electrical power to
your 2-way or your water maker or some other such thing, it's still a
beautiful thing.
Scout

wind generators
 

"Joe" wrote
| Where did you snap the pictures at? looks like Florida.


Your right. It's Sarasota. The best generators for a sailboat are the ones built in. The only thing
you can hear is some water splashing out. But, you don't want them to be anchored too close. They
smell of exhaust. Sailing is all about fresh air. It's getting away from civilization. People should
be considerate of others who don't want civilization anchored right upwind of them.....


Cheers,
Ellen

wind generators
 

I have to chime in on this as I am considering power options for a
bluewater trip to HI sometime in the future. It occurs to me that for
coastal crusing most of us like to get away from day to day annoyances,
but for the bluewater voyager there is a new array of functional and
safety considerations that probably outweigh the 'getting away from it
all' frame of mind. With that said I am investigating weather a solar
only option will be adequate as I too don't like the noise of wind
generators either.

-Mark

Ellen MacArthur wrote:
"Joe" wrote
| Where did you snap the pictures at? looks like Florida.


Your right. It's Sarasota. The best generators for a sailboat are the ones built in. The only thing
you can hear is some water splashing out. But, you don't want them to be anchored too close. They
smell of exhaust. Sailing is all about fresh air. It's getting away from civilization. People should
be considerate of others who don't want civilization anchored right upwind of them.....


Cheers,
Ellen

wind generators
 

An excellent item for the required onboard electrical needs. Don't listen to
these whining dock divas that have negative comments.... they readily fire
up an auxiliary and stink up the place to charge their batteries or leave a
dock. Most of them couldn't operate a boat without a massive electrical
output.

I'd recommend the sturdiest and largest unit your vessel can comfortably
carry. If anyone complains about noise... fire up the 1000 watt sound system
and crank up the bazooka tube to drown them out. Then fire up the genset and
your engine as well. Start hollering off key to the music and dance around
your boat buck naked swinging a bottle of rum. Keep that up for 30 min...
then put your clothes back on, shut down everything but the wind gen, see
how many vessels have weighed anchor... you won't have any further
complaints. It's all a matter of perspective.

Chucky is a ****ant without a clue about boats. He'll whine about noise and
sails in the frickien LIS... surrounded by noise and smog! Chucky you big
baby! You Weiner!

Several boats in my mooring field are equipped with wind gens... I don't
hear them. Almost every serious long distance cruiser is equipped with both
solar and wind gen systems.

CM-


"Barry Gordon" wrote in message
...

I would be very grateful for opinions and experiences with the newer
wind generators such as Marine AirX, Aero6gen, KISS, Ampair. TIA.

wind generators
 

"Capt.Mooron" wrote |
| Several boats in my mooring field are equipped with wind gens... I don't
| hear them.


It's called sh*t in the ears syndrome..... :-)


Cheers,
Ellen

wind generators
 

"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
Moroon hasn't gotten his dinghy wet in a long time. He's never done any
long
distance sailing, either. Doug King mails him old magazines after he's
done with
them. Really!

Took the water taxi to the mooring today Chucky.
From what I understand... 2 hours on the LIS is considered long distance by
the people who sail there. I've sailed on the South Pacific, South Atlantic,
North Atlantic, Pacific Northwest, Beaufort Sea, Hudson's Bay, Northwest
Passge Great Slave Lake, St Lawrence and 1000 Islands, Bahamas Eluethra and
Exuma Cays... but never in the LIS. Oh I sailed from Wallace Harbour to
Halifax when I was only 18.

You just keep making those long distance trips on the LIS why dontcha....

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaaa

You're Fricken Tool!

CM-

wind generators
 

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
reenews.net...

"Capt.Mooron" wrote |
| Several boats in my mooring field are equipped with wind gens... I don't
| hear them.


It's called sh*t in the ears syndrome..... :-)

There were no less than 4 sailboats within 100 yards of me this year
equipped with wind gens.... I could hear a cricket fart at a hundred
feet.... never heard any sound form any of the wind gens. I did hear a lot
of stinkpots charging up their batteries.

Then again it's difficult to hear anything when the sound system is
cranked... the bass pulsing water from the hull , fish are floating upside
down suffering sonic shock, the genset and aux are on and I'm dancing buck
naked on the boat, swinging a bottle of rum and screaming "You're not the
Boss of Me!"
:-)

CM-

wind generators
 

"Capt.Mooron" wrote
| Then again it's difficult to hear anything when the sound system is
| cranked... the bass pulsing water from the hull , fish are floating upside
| down suffering sonic shock, the genset and aux are on and I'm dancing buck
| naked on the boat, swinging a bottle of rum and screaming "You're not the
| Boss of Me!"
| :-)


Glad you corrected me. It's not sh*t in the ears. It's alcohol in the blood syndrome....
Much more fun!


Cheers,
Ellen

wind generators
 

Capt.Mooron wrote:
"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
reenews.net...
"Capt.Mooron" wrote |
| Several boats in my mooring field are equipped with wind gens... I don't
| hear them.


It's called sh*t in the ears syndrome..... :-)

There were no less than 4 sailboats within 100 yards of me this year
equipped with wind gens.... I could hear a cricket fart at a hundred
feet.... never heard any sound form any of the wind gens. I did hear a lot
of stinkpots charging up their batteries.

Then again it's difficult to hear anything when the sound system is
cranked... the bass pulsing water from the hull , fish are floating upside
down suffering sonic shock, the genset and aux are on and I'm dancing buck
naked on the boat, swinging a bottle of rum and screaming "You're not the
Boss of Me!"
:-)

CM-



It's so nice that your mooring neighbors keep theirs in such pristine
condition...at the last marina we were at, we had one next to us for
awhile and when the wind got up over 15 mph the thing sounded like it
was going to explode...and because their boat leaned on its bumpers, it
vibrated the dock...I think they're great when you're out cruising or
making passage, but if you're parked on a dock where people live aboard,
they can be quite an annoyance....especially if there are several
twirling around at the same time...running your engine qt the dock to
charge your battery is stupid...what a waste of fuel...get a trickle
charger and plug it in...

wind generators
 

"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message

Sexual frustration manifests itself in many unusual ways. Poor baby!


You think I'm sockin' as Ellen???

Bwahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahaaaa

You dumb turd!

Totally Clueless is what you are.....

Bwahahahahahahahahahaaaaa

CM-

wind generators
 

It's called sh*t in the ears syndrome..... :-)


Or, in the case of people who think that *all* wind
generators are noisy & vibrate a lot, just because they are
only familiar with cheap old ones, it's "**** between the
ears syndrome."


Capt.Mooron wrote:
There were no less than 4 sailboats within 100 yards of me this year
equipped with wind gens.... I could hear a cricket fart at a hundred
feet.... never heard any sound form any of the wind gens. I did hear a lot
of stinkpots charging up their batteries.


You can't expect them to use the *wind* now can you?


Then again it's difficult to hear anything when the sound system is
cranked... the bass pulsing water from the hull , fish are floating upside
down suffering sonic shock, the genset and aux are on and I'm dancing buck
naked on the boat, swinging a bottle of rum and screaming "You're not the
Boss of Me!"
:-)

I guess that's one way to keep people from anchoring too close.

DSK

wind generators
 

"DSK" wrote in message

I guess that's one way to keep people from anchoring too close.

Anchoring too close???

Hell NO!... I'm the one that sails in after everyone has set hook!!

I always try to get dead center of the fleet.

Separates the Wheat from the Chafe....

Sailors will drop by and party....

Pussies like Chucky ... get a hotel room ashore.

Bwahahahahahaahhaahahahaaaaa....


CM-

wind generators
 

"Barry Gordon" wrote in message
...

I would be very grateful for opinions and experiences with the newer
wind generators such as Marine AirX, Aero6gen, KISS, Ampair. TIA.

The KISS is the loudest of the noisy ones. It's also the least expensive.
So if you are operating on the cheap, plan to anchor away from others.

Max

wind generators
 

And, the modern ones don't make much noise.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
reenews.net...

"Barry Gordon" wrote
| I would be very grateful for opinions and experiences with the newer
| wind generators such as Marine AirX, Aero6gen, KISS, Ampair. TIA.

Don't even think about it.... If you want people to hate you get one.
If you want people
to think your rude get one. If you want your boat to look stupid get one.

I can understand the resentment regarding noise, but it seems like a wind
genny is right in tune with the philosophy of sailing.
Scout

wind generators
 

Yeah, keep posting them.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

Ellen MacArthur wrote:
"Scout" wrote
| I can understand the resentment regarding noise, but it seems like a
wind
| genny is right in tune with the philosophy of sailing.
|

Since when does sailing make electricity necessary? If you really
want to sail you don't
need electricity. If you really need electricity maybe your not that
interested in sailing?
Using wind to make electricity is a good thing. Putting it on a sailboat
isn't.


Cheers,
Ellen

Ellen,

First your pictures are very nice. You just keep posting them and
ignore thoses mean people and thier rude comments.

Second, some people make more use out of a sailboat than others. While
your boat is just above a coleman tent, some people have valid needs
for electricity. Wind generators make less noise than a gen set
running. The new amp airs seem to be very quiet, we have one across the
canal and i can not hear it when it is at full speed.

Where did you snap the pictures at? looks like Florida.

Joe

wind generators
 

If you have nice insulation on your boat then you will not even hear
the wind gen unless your on deck, much less the people bitching about
it.

Joe



Capt.Mooron wrote:
An excellent item for the required onboard electrical needs. Don't listen to
these whining dock divas that have negative comments.... they readily fire
up an auxiliary and stink up the place to charge their batteries or leave a
dock. Most of them couldn't operate a boat without a massive electrical
output.

I'd recommend the sturdiest and largest unit your vessel can comfortably
carry. If anyone complains about noise... fire up the 1000 watt sound system
and crank up the bazooka tube to drown them out. Then fire up the genset and
your engine as well. Start hollering off key to the music and dance around
your boat buck naked swinging a bottle of rum. Keep that up for 30 min...
then put your clothes back on, shut down everything but the wind gen, see
how many vessels have weighed anchor... you won't have any further
complaints. It's all a matter of perspective.

Chucky is a ****ant without a clue about boats. He'll whine about noise and
sails in the frickien LIS... surrounded by noise and smog! Chucky you big
baby! You Weiner!

Several boats in my mooring field are equipped with wind gens... I don't
hear them. Almost every serious long distance cruiser is equipped with both
solar and wind gen systems.

CM-


"Barry Gordon" wrote in message
...

I would be very grateful for opinions and experiences with the newer
wind generators such as Marine AirX, Aero6gen, KISS, Ampair. TIA.

wind generators
 

And the boat all closed up on a hot Summer night?


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_
"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com..
..

If you have nice insulation on your boat then you will not
even hear
the wind gen unless your on deck, much less the people
bitching about
it.

Joe



Capt.Mooron wrote:
An excellent item for the required onboard electrical
needs. Don't listen to
these whining dock divas that have negative comments....
they readily fire
up an auxiliary and stink up the place to charge their
batteries or leave a
dock. Most of them couldn't operate a boat without a
massive electrical
output.

I'd recommend the sturdiest and largest unit your vessel
can comfortably
carry. If anyone complains about noise... fire up the
1000 watt sound system
and crank up the bazooka tube to drown them out. Then
fire up the genset and
your engine as well. Start hollering off key to the
music and dance around
your boat buck naked swinging a bottle of rum. Keep that
up for 30 min...
then put your clothes back on, shut down everything but
the wind gen, see
how many vessels have weighed anchor... you won't have
any further
complaints. It's all a matter of perspective.

Chucky is a ****ant without a clue about boats. He'll
whine about noise and
sails in the frickien LIS... surrounded by noise and
smog! Chucky you big
baby! You Weiner!

Several boats in my mooring field are equipped with wind
gens... I don't
hear them. Almost every serious long distance cruiser is
equipped with both
solar and wind gen systems.

CM-


"Barry Gordon" wrote in message
...

I would be very grateful for opinions and experiences
with the newer
wind generators such as Marine AirX, Aero6gen, KISS,
Ampair. TIA.

wind generators
 

I don't know much about these except the
newer AirX has a brake for high speed that
limits it's efficiency compared to older one.
I'm told it is quieter.

In the tradewinds, everyone has a wind generator.
They are cheap work well in steady conditions.

My choice would be a combination of solar panels,
a wind generator, and one other source such as an
alternator on an inboard diesel. It's wise to have two
ways to charge your batteries other than the engine.

Barry Gordon wrote:
I would be very grateful for opinions and experiences with the newer
wind generators such as Marine AirX, Aero6gen, KISS, Ampair. TIA.

wind generators
 

Scotty wrote:
And the boat all closed up on a hot Summer night?

Yeah..With the gen-set running, and AC cranked on high.

Joe





--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_
"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com..
.

If you have nice insulation on your boat then you will not
even hear
the wind gen unless your on deck, much less the people
bitching about
it.

Joe



Capt.Mooron wrote:
An excellent item for the required onboard electrical
needs. Don't listen to
these whining dock divas that have negative comments....
they readily fire
up an auxiliary and stink up the place to charge their
batteries or leave a
dock. Most of them couldn't operate a boat without a
massive electrical
output.

I'd recommend the sturdiest and largest unit your vessel
can comfortably
carry. If anyone complains about noise... fire up the
1000 watt sound system
and crank up the bazooka tube to drown them out. Then
fire up the genset and
your engine as well. Start hollering off key to the
music and dance around
your boat buck naked swinging a bottle of rum. Keep that
up for 30 min...
then put your clothes back on, shut down everything but
the wind gen, see
how many vessels have weighed anchor... you won't have
any further
complaints. It's all a matter of perspective.

Chucky is a ****ant without a clue about boats. He'll
whine about noise and
sails in the frickien LIS... surrounded by noise and
smog! Chucky you big
baby! You Weiner!

Several boats in my mooring field are equipped with wind
gens... I don't
hear them. Almost every serious long distance cruiser is
equipped with both
solar and wind gen systems.

CM-


"Barry Gordon" wrote in message
...

I would be very grateful for opinions and experiences
with the newer
wind generators such as Marine AirX, Aero6gen, KISS,
Ampair. TIA.

wind generators
 

Oh, now I get it, you're the noisy polluter we're trying to
avoid.

SV


"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com..
..

Scotty wrote:
And the boat all closed up on a hot Summer night?

Yeah..With the gen-set running, and AC cranked on high.

Joe





--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_
"Joe" wrote in message

oups.com..
.

If you have nice insulation on your boat then you will
not
even hear
the wind gen unless your on deck, much less the people
bitching about
it.

Joe



Capt.Mooron wrote:
An excellent item for the required onboard
electrical
needs. Don't listen to
these whining dock divas that have negative
comments....
they readily fire
up an auxiliary and stink up the place to charge
their
batteries or leave a
dock. Most of them couldn't operate a boat without a
massive electrical
output.

I'd recommend the sturdiest and largest unit your
vessel
can comfortably
carry. If anyone complains about noise... fire up
the
1000 watt sound system
and crank up the bazooka tube to drown them out.
Then
fire up the genset and
your engine as well. Start hollering off key to the
music and dance around
your boat buck naked swinging a bottle of rum. Keep
that
up for 30 min...
then put your clothes back on, shut down everything
but
the wind gen, see
how many vessels have weighed anchor... you won't
have
any further
complaints. It's all a matter of perspective.

Chucky is a ****ant without a clue about boats.
He'll
whine about noise and
sails in the frickien LIS... surrounded by noise and
smog! Chucky you big
baby! You Weiner!

Several boats in my mooring field are equipped with
wind
gens... I don't
hear them. Almost every serious long distance
cruiser is
equipped with both
solar and wind gen systems.

CM-


"Barry Gordon" wrote in message
...

I would be very grateful for opinions and
experiences
with the newer
wind generators such as Marine AirX, Aero6gen,
KISS,
Ampair. TIA.

wind generators
 

Air conditioning! :-)

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
And the boat all closed up on a hot Summer night?


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_
"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com..
.

If you have nice insulation on your boat then you will not
even hear
the wind gen unless your on deck, much less the people
bitching about
it.

Joe



Capt.Mooron wrote:
An excellent item for the required onboard electrical
needs. Don't listen to
these whining dock divas that have negative comments....
they readily fire
up an auxiliary and stink up the place to charge their
batteries or leave a
dock. Most of them couldn't operate a boat without a
massive electrical
output.

I'd recommend the sturdiest and largest unit your vessel
can comfortably
carry. If anyone complains about noise... fire up the
1000 watt sound system
and crank up the bazooka tube to drown them out. Then
fire up the genset and
your engine as well. Start hollering off key to the
music and dance around
your boat buck naked swinging a bottle of rum. Keep that
up for 30 min...
then put your clothes back on, shut down everything but
the wind gen, see
how many vessels have weighed anchor... you won't have
any further
complaints. It's all a matter of perspective.

Chucky is a ****ant without a clue about boats. He'll
whine about noise and
sails in the frickien LIS... surrounded by noise and
smog! Chucky you big
baby! You Weiner!

Several boats in my mooring field are equipped with wind
gens... I don't
hear them. Almost every serious long distance cruiser is
equipped with both
solar and wind gen systems.

CM-


"Barry Gordon" wrote in message
...

I would be very grateful for opinions and experiences
with the newer
wind generators such as Marine AirX, Aero6gen, KISS,
Ampair. TIA.

wind generators
 

You can even a wind/water generator combo, but I've heard they're not very
efficient for either.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Bart" wrote in message
oups.com...
I don't know much about these except the
newer AirX has a brake for high speed that
limits it's efficiency compared to older one.
I'm told it is quieter.

In the tradewinds, everyone has a wind generator.
They are cheap work well in steady conditions.

My choice would be a combination of solar panels,
a wind generator, and one other source such as an
alternator on an inboard diesel. It's wise to have two
ways to charge your batteries other than the engine.

Barry Gordon wrote:
I would be very grateful for opinions and experiences with the newer
wind generators such as Marine AirX, Aero6gen, KISS, Ampair. TIA.