Another collision
 

Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 09:15:54 -0400, Charlie Morgan wrote:

A 92 foot sailboat collided with a large coal transporter at about 4
am off of Port Jefferson this morning. Just like the crash a couple of
years ago when the crew of a sailboat was thrown overboard when hit by
a large Motoryacht in fog. The captain of that sailboat died.

The three people on the sailboat this time were all thrown overboard,
too. One was uninjured, one was injured slightly and the third was
pulled from the water unconsious.

Once again, I'll recommend that PFD's and tethers are a REALLY good
idea anytime you are in poor visibility conditions, even if it seems
as if conditions are otherwise benign.

CWM

Update:

The first mate (nicknamed "Blue") and 29 year old Gina Bortolotti, the
chef, were engaged, and had recently bought a house in northern
California. She had a pulse after the collision and he kept her afloat
in the water, but she did not survive. Here is her website:

http://www.bluegina.com


CWM

Thanks for the link Charlie.

What a charming couple...I hope Blue can deal with the loss.

Joe

Another collision
 

Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 22 Sep 2006 06:00:32 -0700, "Joe" wrote:


Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 09:15:54 -0400, Charlie Morgan wrote:

A 92 foot sailboat collided with a large coal transporter at about 4
am off of Port Jefferson this morning. Just like the crash a couple of
years ago when the crew of a sailboat was thrown overboard when hit by
a large Motoryacht in fog. The captain of that sailboat died.

The three people on the sailboat this time were all thrown overboard,
too. One was uninjured, one was injured slightly and the third was
pulled from the water unconsious.

Once again, I'll recommend that PFD's and tethers are a REALLY good
idea anytime you are in poor visibility conditions, even if it seems
as if conditions are otherwise benign.

CWM

Update:

The first mate (nicknamed "Blue") and 29 year old Gina Bortolotti, the
chef, were engaged, and had recently bought a house in northern
California. She had a pulse after the collision and he kept her afloat
in the water, but she did not survive. Here is her website:

http://www.bluegina.com


CWM

Thanks for the link Charlie.

What a charming couple...I hope Blue can deal with the loss.

Joe

They really seemed to be having a great life together. What a tragedy.

CWM

Yelp, but that's the risk you have to deal with if you live at sea.

Do you know if they were underway or at anchor?

By Gina's web-site it looks as if they were both ready to give up the
life underway and settle ashore in California.

Joe

Another collision
 

Harlem Baby Dies After Falling in Vomit
By Associated Press
Thu Sep 21, 11:05 PM

NEW YORK - A 3-month-old infant fell off a bed into a bucket of her teenage
mother's vomit and died, said police, who charged the woman with negligent
homicide on Thursday.

Savarin Dejesus, 18, had left the child with a baby sitter at an East Harlem
group home where she lived to go out partying Sept. 15, police said.

When she returned, Dejesus vomited in the bucket next to the bed where she
fell asleep with her daughter, Niah Ford, in her arms, police said.

The infant later tumbled into the bucket and apparently drowned, police
said. Dejesus didn't discover what had happened to her baby until the next
afternoon.

The girl was taken to a hospital, where she was pronounced dead, police
said.

Dejesus also was charged with endangering the welfare of a child. She was in
police custody late Thursday.

A woman who answered the telephone at Dejesus' group home, the Fox House,
declined to comment on the baby's death.

Another collision
 

Gilligan wrote:
Harlem Baby Dies After Falling in Vomit
By Associated Press
Thu Sep 21, 11:05 PM

NEW YORK - A 3-month-old infant fell off a bed into a bucket of her teenage
mother's vomit and died, said police, who charged the woman with negligent
homicide on Thursday.

Savarin Dejesus, 18, had left the child with a baby sitter at an East Harlem
group home where she lived to go out partying Sept. 15, police said.

When she returned, Dejesus vomited in the bucket next to the bed where she
fell asleep with her daughter, Niah Ford, in her arms, police said.

The infant later tumbled into the bucket and apparently drowned, police
said. Dejesus didn't discover what had happened to her baby until the next
afternoon.

The girl was taken to a hospital, where she was pronounced dead, police
said.

Dejesus also was charged with endangering the welfare of a child. She was in
police custody late Thursday.

A woman who answered the telephone at Dejesus' group home, the Fox House,
declined to comment on the baby's death.


She came home drunk to a group home and no one noticed? The home should
also be held responsible.

Another collision
 

Let's hope Capt, Neal see this and empty's his cedar bucket more often.

Joe




Gilligan wrote:
Harlem Baby Dies After Falling in Vomit
By Associated Press
Thu Sep 21, 11:05 PM

NEW YORK - A 3-month-old infant fell off a bed into a bucket of her teenage
mother's vomit and died, said police, who charged the woman with negligent
homicide on Thursday.

Savarin Dejesus, 18, had left the child with a baby sitter at an East Harlem
group home where she lived to go out partying Sept. 15, police said.

When she returned, Dejesus vomited in the bucket next to the bed where she
fell asleep with her daughter, Niah Ford, in her arms, police said.

The infant later tumbled into the bucket and apparently drowned, police
said. Dejesus didn't discover what had happened to her baby until the next
afternoon.

The girl was taken to a hospital, where she was pronounced dead, police
said.

Dejesus also was charged with endangering the welfare of a child. She was in
police custody late Thursday.

A woman who answered the telephone at Dejesus' group home, the Fox House,
declined to comment on the baby's death.

Another collision
 

From all descriptions so far, it sounds as if they were underway. The
area where they collided would be a VERY odd place to anchor. It's way
out in the open and about 90 feet deep there. If they had wanted to
anchor, there were nearby options that would have made sense.

Interesting to note that all three crew on the sailboat were licensed
captains with a fair amount of experience. I wonder how many licensed
captains were on the coal transport.

One, 2 mate, 4 AB's, number of OS's I'd guess.

Not enough information to even guess what happened.


In the 2003 collision between the s/v Hilaria and the m/v Mariner III,
the sailboat captain was down below, sleeping. It was night and foggy.
The two crew on watch detected the approaching motor yacht, but did
not know how to disengage the auto-pilot! They woke the captain, but
it was too late. He had just made it to the cockpit when they hit, and
all were thrown overboard. I do not know why the Mariner III did not
take any evasive action. Obviously there were serious mistakes on both
side in that one.

Sounds like it, the captain who died has no one to blame but himself.
Leaving a couple of un-trained people at the wheel in fog so you can
sleep is suicide. IMO leaving anyone else at the wheel underway in the
fog is a poor decision of any captain.

Joe



CWM

Another collision
 

I've watched that coal ship unloading out in the sound onto
coal barges in the past. I sailed around it two years ago
with my nuddy Chris.

The water where the accident occurred has a charted depth of
98' or so. I expect the wreck will become a dive site now. If
the mast is sticking up, it could be a navigational hazard.


Charlie Morgan wrote:

A 92 foot sailboat collided with a large coal transporter at about 4
am off of Port Jefferson this morning.

The three people on the sailboat this time were all thrown overboard,
too. One was uninjured, one was injured slightly and the third was
pulled from the water unconsious.