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Who here has been in the middle of an ocean?

Even Better who here has crossed an Ocean?

For 2 ASA points.

Why would anyone want to be out in the middle of an ocean?

Bonus question

For those old timers here they might remember me asking this question
as the first question I ever posted here, and BTW I never got a
straight answer. I ask you this. If you were to sail around the world
would you go east or west? Why?

BTW Ol Thom, when I asked that question, you said that a friend of
yours had just died , and he asked that very same question...who was
that?

Joe

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"Joe" wrote
| If you were to sail around the world
| would you go east or west? Why?



I can answer that one for ya. In the northern hemisphere there's too many continents in the way
to sail around the world. If you try to sail north of them you run into solid ice. You can sail around
the world in the southern hemisphere because there's enough room. You sail between Antarctica and
the Horn and Good Hope and Luellen. Down there the prevailing winds blow from west to east. So the
direction to sail easiest is west to east. That answers the *why*. My namesake is an expert at this!


Cheers,
Ellen

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Joe wrote:
Who here has been in the middle of an ocean?


raise hand

Even Better who here has crossed an Ocean?


raise hand

For 2 ASA points.

Why would anyone want to be out in the middle of an ocean?


'cuz it's cool?
Cleanest & healthiest air on the planet?
Study pelagic species?
Widest & least light-polluted sky?


Bonus question

For those old timers here they might remember me asking this question
as the first question I ever posted here, and BTW I never got a
straight answer. I ask you this. If you were to sail around the world
would you go east or west? Why?


Umm, you can't go straight & still sail around the world.
You have to make some turns. Maybe that's why you didn't get
a straight answer?

Personally I have no interest in "sailing around the world"
as some kind of bragging-rights stunt. It is easiest &
fastest to go west-to-east because of prevailing winds &
currents.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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DSK wrote:
Joe wrote:
Who here has been in the middle of an ocean?


raise hand

Even Better who here has crossed an Ocean?


raise hand

For 2 ASA points.

Why would anyone want to be out in the middle of an ocean?


'cuz it's cool?
Cleanest & healthiest air on the planet?
Study pelagic species?
Widest & least light-polluted sky?

I thought in the middle of the rain forest has the best air on earth.
Would you stury the Mesopelagic, bathypelagic, Abyssopelagic or the
Hatydel Zone?

I think the haydel would be the most fun and interesting, maybe hook a
cracken.


Bonus question

For those old timers here they might remember me asking this question
as the first question I ever posted here, and BTW I never got a
straight answer. I ask you this. If you were to sail around the world
would you go east or west? Why?


Umm, you can't go straight & still sail around the world.
You have to make some turns. Maybe that's why you didn't get
a straight answer?

Personally I have no interest in "sailing around the world"
as some kind of bragging-rights stunt. It is easiest &
fastest to go west-to-east because of prevailing winds &
currents.


Bragging stunt, or true measurement and accomplishment?

Joe


Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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Joe wrote:
Who here has been in the middle of an ocean?

Yo.

Even Better who here has crossed an Ocean?

Yo.

For 2 ASA points.

Why would anyone want to be out in the middle of an ocean?

Because they pay me well to do it.....

For those old timers here they might remember me asking this question
as the first question I ever posted here, and BTW I never got a
straight answer. I ask you this. If you were to sail around the world
would you go east or west?

West.

Why?

Because there's bugger-all east of me except a lot of windy cold water.

But your question is too simplistic. I could go east, then north. I
could go north, then west. Or I could just go east, which would be the
shortest & fastest way. Depends on what you're trying to achieve. If it
was just bragging rights, I'd go east. If I had heaps of time, I'd go
north then west through Torres Strait.

Cornell's Ocean Passages of the World has been the subject of many
discussions & arguments while we've been at sea.

PDW

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In article .com,
Joe wrote:
Who here has been in the middle of an ocean?

Even Better who here has crossed an Ocean?

Croseed a sea, but not an ocean. Only out to about 200 NM on the
PAcific.

For 2 ASA points.

Why would anyone want to be out in the middle of an ocean?

So you don't hit land?

Bonus question

For those old timers here they might remember me asking this question
as the first question I ever posted here, and BTW I never got a
straight answer. I ask you this. If you were to sail around the world
would you go east or west? Why?

I'd sail west, because there's land east.

BTW Ol Thom, when I asked that question, you said that a friend of
yours had just died , and he asked that very same question...who was
that?

Joe



--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com

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Peter wrote:
Joe wrote:
Who here has been in the middle of an ocean?

Yo.
Which one's?

Even Better who here has crossed an Ocean?

Yo.


For 2 ASA points.

Why would anyone want to be out in the middle of an ocean?

Because they pay me well to do it.....
Would you go again on your boat?



For those old timers here they might remember me asking this question
as the first question I ever posted here, and BTW I never got a
straight answer. I ask you this. If you were to sail around the world
would you go east or west?

West.

Why?

Because there's bugger-all east of me except a lot of windy cold water.

But your question is too simplistic. I could go east, then north. I
could go north, then west. Or I could just go east, which would be the
shortest & fastest way. Depends on what you're trying to achieve. If it
was just bragging rights, I'd go east. If I had heaps of time, I'd go
north then west through Torres Strait.

Cornell's Ocean Passages of the World has been the subject of many
discussions & arguments while we've been at sea.

Good book, I have a copy here.

joe

PDW

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Jonathan Ganz wrote:
In article .com,
Joe wrote:
Who here has been in the middle of an ocean?

Even Better who here has crossed an Ocean?

Croseed a sea, but not an ocean. Only out to about 200 NM on the
PAcific.

Thats a nice jaunt offshore, what were you doning, heading to the sea
of cortez?

For 2 ASA points.

Why would anyone want to be out in the middle of an ocean?

So you don't hit land?

Thats true, but ...

Bonus question

For those old timers here they might remember me asking this question
as the first question I ever posted here, and BTW I never got a
straight answer. I ask you this. If you were to sail around the world
would you go east or west? Why?

I'd sail west, because there's land east.

you could go south than east thru the canal.

Joe

BTW Ol Thom, when I asked that question, you said that a friend of
yours had just died , and he asked that very same question...who was
that?

Joe



--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com

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OzOne wrote:
On 19 Sep 2006 17:29:17 -0700, "Joe"
scribbled thusly:

Who here has been in the middle of an ocean?

Uh Huh..a few actually.

Which ones?

Even Better who here has crossed an Ocean?

Also a few.

For 2 ASA points.

Why would anyone want to be out in the middle of an ocean?

Ya gotta be there!

Yes you do....Why..what impressed you the most?

Joe


Bonus question

For those old timers here they might remember me asking this question
as the first question I ever posted here, and BTW I never got a
straight answer. I ask you this. If you were to sail around the world
would you go east or west? Why?

From here, East.
Prevailing winds and the Pacific is beeeooootiful!
Besides....there's a bloody big rock between me and the Indian.

BTW Ol Thom, when I asked that question, you said that a friend of
yours had just died , and he asked that very same question...who was
that?

Joe



Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

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Joe,

His name was Ed ( for the life of me, I can't remember his Last name) He
was heading for England to pick up his new boat. He was asking which way
was the best way to Travel back to Australia.

I suggested going East on the "Roaring Forties" He agreed but said it
was probably more than he could handle on his own.

We; I, didn't know just how sick he was. He died in England. It was, is,
an unfinished Story!!

Oz, help me! I can't remember ED's last name. I'm in the middle of a
"Senior Moment"




http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT

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Ellen MacArthur wrote:
"Joe" wrote
| If you were to sail around the world
| would you go east or west? Why?



In the northern hemisphere there's too many continents in the way
to sail around the world. If you try to sail north of them you run
into solid ice.


Not anymore you don't.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060920...c_060920111816


//Walt

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"Walt" wrote
| http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060920...c_060920111816



Kewl. I hope it keeps thawing out. Just think if all the ice around the north pole melted.
You could sail around the north pole about fifty feet from it. You could sail around the world
in less than five minutes. A new Guinness record....

Cheers,
Ellen

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Thom Stewart wrote:
Joe,

His name was Ed ( for the life of me, I can't remember his Last name) He
was heading for England to pick up his new boat. He was asking which way
was the best way to Travel back to Australia.

I suggested going East on the "Roaring Forties" He agreed but said it
was probably more than he could handle on his own.

We; I, didn't know just how sick he was. He died in England. It was, is,
an unfinished Story!!

Oz, help me! I can't remember ED's last name. I'm in the middle of a
"Senior Moment"




http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT

That was Edchell...a friend of OZ's....it was very sad.

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In article .com,
Joe wrote:

Thats a nice jaunt offshore, what were you doning, heading to the sea
of cortez?

Yep... SF to Cabo non-stop. A strange direction for a delivery. The
owner wanted the boat in the Carib, but I only had time for the first
leg. It was a full-keel 48 CT.

For 2 ASA points.

Why would anyone want to be out in the middle of an ocean?

So you don't hit land?

Thats true, but ...

I'm not sure if 200 NM qualifies for an ocean crossing, but if there's
a storm, I'd rather be there than just a couple of miles off. Of
course, there are few places left where one can see the stars like
that.

as the first question I ever posted here, and BTW I never got a
straight answer. I ask you this. If you were to sail around the world
would you go east or west? Why?

I'd sail west, because there's land east.

you could go south than east thru the canal.

South, then west to get through the canal... the Carib entrance is
west of the Pacific entrance. :-)

--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com

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katy wrote:
Thom Stewart wrote:
Joe,

His name was Ed ( for the life of me, I can't remember his Last name) He
was heading for England to pick up his new boat. He was asking which way
was the best way to Travel back to Australia.

I suggested going East on the "Roaring Forties" He agreed but said it
was probably more than he could handle on his own.

We; I, didn't know just how sick he was. He died in England. It was, is,
an unfinished Story!!

Oz, help me! I can't remember ED's last name. I'm in the middle of a
"Senior Moment"




http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT

That was Edchell...a friend of OZ's....it was very sad.

How old was he?

Joe

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Joe wrote:
Who here has been in the middle of an ocean?

I've been pretty far out a few times.

Even Better who here has crossed an Ocean?

I've made a few long passages but never what
I'd consider a full ocean crossing--continent to
continent.

For 2 ASA points.

Why would anyone want to be out in the middle of an ocean?

To see albatross and biolumiscence, and a clear view of
the stars, and to eat tasty, uncontaminated, fresh fish!


Bonus question

For those old timers here they might remember me asking this question
as the first question I ever posted here, and BTW I never got a
straight answer. I ask you this. If you were to sail around the world
would you go east or west? Why?

I'd go the easy way because it is faster.

BTW Ol Thom, when I asked that question, you said that a friend of
yours had just died , and he asked that very same question...who was
that?

I remembered him recently. Sad story but he lived his life
well.

Bart

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Joe wrote:
Peter wrote:
Joe wrote:
Who here has been in the middle of an ocean?

Yo.
Which one's?

Pacific, Indian, Southern more times than I like to think about ATM
since I'm going again in 2 weeks.

Why would anyone want to be out in the middle of an ocean?

Because they pay me well to do it.....
Would you go again on your boat?

Sure. They keep paying me.

PDW

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Joe wrote:
katy wrote:
Thom Stewart wrote:
Joe,

His name was Ed ( for the life of me, I can't remember his Last name) He
was heading for England to pick up his new boat. He was asking which way
was the best way to Travel back to Australia.

I suggested going East on the "Roaring Forties" He agreed but said it
was probably more than he could handle on his own.

We; I, didn't know just how sick he was. He died in England. It was, is,
an unfinished Story!!

Oz, help me! I can't remember ED's last name. I'm in the middle of a
"Senior Moment"




http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT

That was Edchell...a friend of OZ's....it was very sad.

How old was he?

Joe

Obe;ieve he was somewhere in his 50's...

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Dave wrote:
On 19 Sep 2006 17:29:17 -0700, "Joe" said:


Who here has been in the middle of an ocean?

Even Better who here has crossed an Ocean?

Well, I've made a couple of Atlantic crossings, crossed the Med, and been
from New England to the Caribbean, but all of these were driving a 200'
ship, rather than sailing, so perhaps they don't count.

Yeah that counts..but 200 ft is a very small ship.
What kind?

Joe

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Ellen MacArthur wrote:

My namesake is an expert at this!

With the notable exception that, unlike you, she looks a tiny bit masculine.


--
Capt Scumbalino

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"Capt. Scumbalino" wrote
| With the notable exception that, unlike you, she looks a tiny bit masculine.


I have strong shoulders and arms for a woman. I can beat some guys arm wrestling.... Regular size guys.
Not big guys. Probably because I work out with weights.


Cheers,
Ellen

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"Charlie Morgan" wrote
| If you arm wrestled Neal, I'm betting it would be a tie.



If I arm wrestled Captain Neal I bet I'd have to keep a close eye on his other hand. :-)
But, I can't compare to those girls he's got for crew mates on his web site. Yes, I googled him.
People around here keep talking about him.... I was curious. He looks sorta geeky.

Cheers,
Ellen

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Ellen MacArthur wrote:
"Charlie Morgan" wrote
| If you arm wrestled Neal, I'm betting it would be a tie.



If I arm wrestled Captain Neal I bet I'd have to keep a close eye on his other hand. :-)
But, I can't compare to those girls he's got for crew mates on his web site. Yes, I googled him.
People around here keep talking about him.... I was curious. He looks sorta geeky.

Cheers,
Ellen

Break all the mirrors you own....

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DSK wrote:

snip
Cleanest & healthiest air on the planet?
snip
Fresh Breezes- Doug King


1974, 500 miles off the west coast of Africa, a few miles north of the
Equator, G.A.T.E. Project, N.O.A.A. ship Oceanographer (OSS-01) - I was
asking one of the scientists aboard about air quality as he was testing
it. He replied something to the effect that where we were it was the
cleanest air on Earth. Then he told me it had something like 150
particles per cubic [inch/centimeter/something or other...] of mostly
dust which I thought sounded like pretty dirty air. He proceeded then to
tell me what NYC had for air particulate content, and I thought "That
sounds like it has to be a solid block!" Quite an eye opener.