Fiberglass Haze
 

Hi...we have purchased a '73 AmericanDaysailor 16 - Fiberglass. The
boat is great, but the blue hull is covered with a whiteish haze. What
would anyone suggest to get her looking a little better? We do not
want to repaint. Thanks,

Kathy

Fiberglass Haze
 

Kathy wrote:
Hi...we have purchased a '73 AmericanDaysailor 16 - Fiberglass. The
boat is great, but the blue hull is covered with a whiteish haze. What
would anyone suggest to get her looking a little better? We do not
want to repaint. Thanks,

Kathy

I'm no expert on fiberglass but lots-o-elbow grease using first a
Rubbing compound, then waxing.

Your local marine store has half a isle devoted to your needs.

Good Luck

Joe

Fiberglass Haze
 

Kathy wrote:
Hi...we have purchased a '73 AmericanDaysailor 16 - Fiberglass. The
boat is great, but the blue hull is covered with a whiteish haze. What
would anyone suggest to get her looking a little better? We do not
want to repaint. Thanks,

Kathy

My Butterfy's hull was like that when I bought her...some wax and a bit
of rubbing compoind brought some of it back but I ended up repainting her...

Fiberglass Haze
 

My Butterfy's hull was like that when I bought her...some wax and a bit
of rubbing compoind brought some of it back but I ended up repainting her...



In some cases, Joe is correct and compound will restore the color. In
other cases you simply can't. In the future, if it matters to you,
include some compound in your survey kit. You can spot test the gel and
see how far gone it truly is. I recently surveyed a Ericson for someone
and that was one of the checks I made. The color would NOT come back
all the way and he bargained the boat down further because she needed
to be painted.

RB
35s5
NY

Fiberglass Haze
 

Been there, done that Kathy.
Most all my boats have required serious rescue to get em looking good.
If the "hazy finish is a consistent color I wouldscrub off all the old
oxidation to a consistent dull color using a non abrasive cleaner with
a product called TLC with a blue #3, scrubby pad. Then topcoat with a
polymer called Poli - Glo and it'll shine like new..This will not
restore color but if all the same tone after scrubbed down will restore
a maintence free shine.. tom

Kathy wrote:
Hi...we have purchased a '73 AmericanDaysailor 16 - Fiberglass. The
boat is great, but the blue hull is covered with a whiteish haze. What
would anyone suggest to get her looking a little better? We do not
want to repaint. Thanks,

Kathy

Fiberglass Haze
 

Capt. Rob wrote:
My Butterfy's hull was like that when I bought her...some wax and a bit
of rubbing compoind brought some of it back but I ended up repainting her...



In some cases, Joe is correct and compound will restore the color. In
other cases you simply can't. In the future, if it matters to you,
include some compound in your survey kit. You can spot test the gel and
see how far gone it truly is. I recently surveyed a Ericson for someone
and that was one of the checks I made. The color would NOT come back
all the way and he bargained the boat down further because she needed
to be painted.

RB
35s5
NY

I hope you made sure it was ok with the boat owner to do this.
Otherwise you could be sued.

Fiberglass Haze
 

I hope you made sure it was ok with the boat owner to do this.
Otherwise you could be sued.


Yeah, those suits are rampant due to someone polishing a square inch of
glass!
Good work, Bluto!

Oh, and BTW, you're a jackass.



RB
35s5
NY

Fiberglass Haze
 

"Kathy" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi...we have purchased a '73 AmericanDaysailor 16 - Fiberglass. The
boat is great, but the blue hull is covered with a whiteish haze. What
would anyone suggest to get her looking a little better? We do not
want to repaint. Thanks,

Kathy

Use a buffing wheel--not a random orbital, but a real rotary buffer--and a
product from Yacht Brite called Buff Magic. It's non-abrasive, but will
make the fiberglass shine like new with a couple of applications.

Max

Fiberglass Haze
 

"Rednose" wrote in message
ups.com...
Been there, done that Kathy.
Most all my boats have required serious rescue to get em looking good.
If the "hazy finish is a consistent color I wouldscrub off all the old
oxidation to a consistent dull color using a non abrasive cleaner with
a product called TLC with a blue #3, scrubby pad. Then topcoat with a
polymer called Poli - Glo and it'll shine like new..This will not
restore color but if all the same tone after scrubbed down will restore
a maintence free shine.. tom

I'd go slowly with this advice. Poli-Glo and other polymers will eventually
peel when exposed to UV. Then it's a job to get it off. Buffing out the
gel is the safest and best method. I'm not a fan of polymer overcoatings.

Max

Fiberglass Haze
 

On 18 Sep 2006 09:20:37 -0700, "Kathy" wrote:

Hi...we have purchased a '73 AmericanDaysailor 16 - Fiberglass. The
boat is great, but the blue hull is covered with a whiteish haze. What
would anyone suggest to get her looking a little better?




We do not
want to repaint. Thanks,


Why?

Whatever you do short of painting will be very short lived unless you
keep the boat inside or want to rebuff and wax about every two months.

Quart of imron or awlgrip, or any other cat poly, forty dollar spray
gun, and a little prep work (no more than you're going to have to put
into the buffing and waxing) and problem is solved for a very long
time.

You will, however, need a good protective mask for spraying cat poly.

Frank




Kathy

Fiberglass Haze
 

Capt. Rob wrote:
I hope you made sure it was ok with the boat owner to do this.
Otherwise you could be sued.


Yeah, those suits are rampant due to someone polishing a square inch of
glass!
Good work, Bluto!

Oh, and BTW, you're a jackass.



RB
35s5
NY

You went on to a guys boat and without his permission or knowledge did
something to reduce the value of the boat. If that was my boat I would
have punched you in the mouth and sued the living daylights out of your
marina. You pretend to be a God Damned surveyor, sailor, expert in
everything. You're the jackass and a big one. Go to hell you son of a
bitch.

Fiberglass Haze
 

You went on to a guys boat and without his permission or knowledge

No, never said that which makes you a super idiot.

did something to reduce the value of the boat.

Polishing a spot of gel is reducing the value of the boat? This makes
you a super duper idiot.


If that was my boat I would

Be sailing? Not likely. You're just a sockpuppet and am Super duper
ultra idiot.


have punched you in the mouth and sued the living daylights out of
your
marina.

Your suit would not go well after you assaulted a club member.

You pretend to be a God Damned surveyor, sailor, expert in
everything.

Who's pretending? I was paid to give an opinion on a boat. My survey
was part of the yard's comprehensive survey.

You're the jackass and a big one.

That's okay. I don't pay yard fees because I'm a lot smarter than you.

Go to hell you son of a
bitch.

And say hi to your mom and dad? Why don't you go diving with some Sting
Rays?

Bye bye, dumb ass!!!

BWAHAHAHAHHAHA!


RB
35s5
NY

Fiberglass Haze
 

You went on to a guys boat


Wanna explain to the boys and girls why I "went on" the boat to check
the hull???
Uh, you're really stupid.

Really. Seriously. Stupid.



RB
35s5
NY

Fiberglass Haze
 

I'd go slowly with this advice. Poli-Glo and other polymers will
eventually
peel when exposed to UV. Then it's a job to get it off.


Yep, we tried the stuff on some boats here. Created more work than it
was worth. I still have a whole kit under the sink.


RB
35s5
NY

Fiberglass Haze
 

Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 18 Sep 2006 17:16:33 -0700, "Capt. Rob" wrote:


I'd go slowly with this advice. Poli-Glo and other polymers will
eventually
peel when exposed to UV. Then it's a job to get it off.


Yep, we tried the stuff on some boats here. Created more work than it
was worth. I still have a whole kit under the sink.


RB
35s5
NY

Whatever you do DON'T FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS.

people who have problems with this product are simply incompetent. That's the
only explanantion that can be proven.


Wrong, I tried it on a 60's era ski boat and the stuff did not work
worth a crap, and it caused more haze and messed up the red, made it
look purple.
Joe

CWM

Fiberglass Haze
 

Clorox Cleaner followed by compound and a buffer.

Kathy wrote:
Hi...we have purchased a '73 AmericanDaysailor 16 - Fiberglass. The
boat is great, but the blue hull is covered with a whiteish haze. What
would anyone suggest to get her looking a little better? We do not
want to repaint. Thanks,

Kathy

Fiberglass Haze
 

people who have problems with this product are simply incompetent.
That's the
only explanantion that can be proven.


I don't think everyone I know who tried this was unable to read the
directions. It does degrade and flake away eventually and can be tough
to remove from boats where the hull's gel is really far gone and
porous. Initially it works very well.


RB

Fiberglass Haze
 

Capt. Rob wrote:
You went on to a guys boat


Wanna explain to the boys and girls why I "went on" the boat to check
the hull???
Uh, you're really stupid.

Really. Seriously. Stupid.



RB
35s5
NY

You are the type to drill inspection holes in a guy's boat without his
knowledge. You should take your moisture meter and measure the large
amount of water between your ears. You are not even a licensed
surveyor. You are a wannabe, a poseur. Fake.

Fiberglass Haze
 

"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:41:44 GMT, "Maxprop" wrote:


"Rednose" wrote in message
roups.com...
Been there, done that Kathy.
Most all my boats have required serious rescue to get em looking good.
If the "hazy finish is a consistent color I wouldscrub off all the old
oxidation to a consistent dull color using a non abrasive cleaner with
a product called TLC with a blue #3, scrubby pad. Then topcoat with a
polymer called Poli - Glo and it'll shine like new..This will not
restore color but if all the same tone after scrubbed down will restore
a maintence free shine.. tom

I'd go slowly with this advice. Poli-Glo and other polymers will
eventually
peel when exposed to UV. Then it's a job to get it off. Buffing out the
gel is the safest and best method. I'm not a fan of polymer overcoatings.

Max

Totally wrong on all counts. Not surprising, given the source.

Totally wrong in your seriously misguided opinion. Go ahead--use that poly
crap, but don't come whining back here when it peels and looks like ****.
Then again you're probably accustomed to your boat looking like ****. Or do
you even own a boat?

And by the way, you, like Bluto, are a jackass.

Max

Fiberglass Haze
 

"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On 18 Sep 2006 17:16:33 -0700, "Capt. Rob" wrote:


I'd go slowly with this advice. Poli-Glo and other polymers will
eventually
peel when exposed to UV. Then it's a job to get it off.


Yep, we tried the stuff on some boats here. Created more work than it
was worth. I still have a whole kit under the sink.


RB
35s5
NY

Whatever you do DON'T FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS.

people who have problems with this product are simply incompetent. That's
the
only explanantion that can be proven.

Of the half dozen boats that have used the stuff here, every one has peeled.

And by the way, you're incredibly stupid.

Max

Fiberglass Haze
 

Maxprop wrote:
"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 22:41:44 GMT, "Maxprop" wrote:


"Rednose" wrote in message
roups.com...
Been there, done that Kathy.
Most all my boats have required serious rescue to get em looking good.
If the "hazy finish is a consistent color I wouldscrub off all the old
oxidation to a consistent dull color using a non abrasive cleaner with
a product called TLC with a blue #3, scrubby pad. Then topcoat with a
polymer called Poli - Glo and it'll shine like new..This will not
restore color but if all the same tone after scrubbed down will restore
a maintence free shine.. tom

I'd go slowly with this advice. Poli-Glo and other polymers will
eventually
peel when exposed to UV. Then it's a job to get it off. Buffing out the
gel is the safest and best method. I'm not a fan of polymer overcoatings.

Max

Totally wrong on all counts. Not surprising, given the source.

Totally wrong in your seriously misguided opinion. Go ahead--use that poly
crap, but don't come whining back here when it peels and looks like ****.
Then again you're probably accustomed to your boat looking like ****. Or do
you even own a boat?

And by the way, you, like Bluto, are a jackass.

Max

That's an insult. I'd gladly be a jackass, but I never want to be like
CWM.

Fiberglass Haze
 

"Charlie Morgan" wrote:
Neal has used the "Bluto" sock before

Yes...

Then again, you correctly identified him as a jackass, so maybe you did
know who
it was.

New. this time it was Bob Crantz aka Gilligan... (trust me) keeping score

LP (too many socks, too little time...at least for me!)

Fiberglass Haze
 

"Bluto" wrote:

Go to hell you son of a
bitch.


Take it easy, dude! You are going to have a heart attack!

Love,
LP

Fiberglass Haze
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote:

Why don't you learn to post like someone who has been around for more than 6
months? Katy learned how after many years, maybe 8 years? You can do it
to! Don't be a Beached Thom that won't listen to anyone...

LP

Fiberglass Haze
 

You are not even a licensed
surveyor. You are a wannabe, a poseur. Fake.


I'm a paid fake! And if you ever buy a boat you should call me because
you need help!


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA


RB
35s5
NY

Fiberglass Haze
 

"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 03:18:32 GMT, "Maxprop" wrote:


"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
. ..
On 18 Sep 2006 17:16:33 -0700, "Capt. Rob" wrote:


I'd go slowly with this advice. Poli-Glo and other polymers will
eventually
peel when exposed to UV. Then it's a job to get it off.


Yep, we tried the stuff on some boats here. Created more work than it
was worth. I still have a whole kit under the sink.


RB
35s5
NY

Whatever you do DON'T FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS.

people who have problems with this product are simply incompetent.
That's
the
only explanantion that can be proven.

Of the half dozen boats that have used the stuff here, every one has
peeled.


So everybody around you is as stupid as you are?

Nope. Just as stupid as you.

Max

Fiberglass Haze
 

"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...

I have used poliglow for many, many years. It has never had any problems.
I know
a lot of other people who also use it, and none of them would ever
consider
waxing a boat. The few morons who have trouble with poliglow are idiots
who
can't follow the very simple instructions. I guess that's you.

Is that why the manufacturer and the demo guys at the boat shows always
spend as much time showing how "easy" it is to remove as to apply?

Max

Fiberglass Haze
 

"Lady Pilot" wrote

New. this time it was Bob Crantz aka Gilligan... (trust
me) keeping score

LP (too many cocks, too little time...at least for me!)


Yikes, that's some sig. ya got there.