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[email protected] September 16th 06 03:58 AM

Docking Situation Question #8
 
What is your knot preference for making a dock line off to a piling?

What should be a concern when so moored.


Scotty September 16th 06 04:52 AM

Docking Situation Question #8
 
All my docklines have eyesplices in them, I loop through the
eye.

Tidal range.

Scotty

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What is your knot preference for making a dock line off to

a piling?

What should be a concern when so moored.




Capt. JG September 16th 06 06:03 AM

Docking Situation Question #8
 
Well, I'd imagine you'd want something that will tighten, so perhaps a round
turn and 2 1/2 hitches. The issue would be easing it.

An interesting knot I've been trying to use is a bowline with a slip knot in
the final part of the knot. Very secure, and all you have to do is give it a
tug to ease.

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What is your knot preference for making a dock line off to a piling?

What should be a concern when so moored.




DSK September 16th 06 04:03 PM

Docking Situation Question #8
 
doubleecho wrote
What is your knot preference for making a dock line off to
a piling?



Scotty wrote:
All my docklines have eyesplices in them, I loop through the
eye.


Same here. The self-tightening loop keeps the line from
dropping along the piling or chafing.


What should be a concern when so moored.



Tidal range.


Agreed again. I didn't think you all had much tide up there.
We have very little real tide, the wind on the estuary puts
the water level up or down as much as four feet some times.

How do you tell if the line is going to allow more or less
movement as the water level goes up or down?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Scotty September 16th 06 04:04 PM

Docking Situation Question #8
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Well, I'd imagine you'd want something that will tighten,

so perhaps a round
turn and 2 1/2 hitches. The issue would be easing it.



Not a good knot, unless you do something with the tail to
prevent loosening.

Scotty









Scotty September 16th 06 04:17 PM

Docking Situation Question #8
 

"DSK" wrote in message
...
doubleecho wrote
What is your knot preference for making a dock line off

to
a piling?



Scotty wrote:
All my docklines have eyesplices in them, I loop through

the
eye.


Same here. The self-tightening loop keeps the line from
dropping along the piling or chafing.


What should be a concern when so moored.



Tidal range.


Agreed again. I didn't think you all had much tide up

there.
We have very little real tide, the wind on the estuary

puts
the water level up or down as much as four feet some

times.

How do you tell if the line is going to allow more or less
movement as the water level goes up or down?


It's relationship to the deck height.

We have about the same up here, the main thing is, in a
narrow slip, leaving the boat for a week at a time, you're
bound to encounter a super low or high tide and should
account for it. I tie the lines on the pilings so they're
dead even with the boat with as much slack as possible, at
'normal' tide height. So many boats I see have the dock
lines way high up on the pilings.

SBV





Jeff September 16th 06 04:32 PM

Docking Situation Question #8
 
DSK wrote:
doubleecho wrote
What is your knot preference for making a dock line off to
a piling?



Scotty wrote:
All my docklines have eyesplices in them, I loop through the
eye.


Same here. The self-tightening loop keeps the line from dropping along
the piling or chafing.


Yes, it has the added advantage that you can loosen it and move it
with a boat hook.




What should be a concern when so moored.



Tidal range.


Agreed again. I didn't think you all had much tide up there. We have
very little real tide, the wind on the estuary puts the water level up
or down as much as four feet some times.


Jeeze, you call that a tide? (OK, you said it wasn't a real tide.)

Of course, while East of Cape Cod we have 9 feet or more of tide, its
very rare that a recreational facility doesn't have floating docks.


How do you tell if the line is going to allow more or less movement as
the water level goes up or down?


trigonometry


Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Capt. JG September 16th 06 05:37 PM

Docking Situation Question #8
 
In one situation, we used the RT w/2 hitches. We made sure the knot was
secure after the fact by easing out one dockline and hauling in on the other
until we were near the piling, put the tail through the original turn (like
an anchor hitch) then doing the same thing for the other side. When we
wanted to leave, we reversed the procedure, except that we unwrapped the 2
hitches and most of the RT. As soon as the bow section was clear of the
pilings, we let the rest go.

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"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Well, I'd imagine you'd want something that will tighten,

so perhaps a round
turn and 2 1/2 hitches. The issue would be easing it.



Not a good knot, unless you do something with the tail to
prevent loosening.

Scotty











Ellen MacArthur September 16th 06 06:35 PM

Docking Situation Question #8
 

wrote
| What is your knot preference for making a dock line off to a piling?


Rolling hitch.

Cheers,
Ellen

Capt. JG September 16th 06 07:30 PM

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Bzzzt. Wrong answer.

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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
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| What is your knot preference for making a dock line off to a piling?


Rolling hitch.

Cheers,
Ellen




Scotty September 16th 06 07:57 PM

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Bzzzt...right answer, if that's her knot preference.



"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Bzzzt. Wrong answer.

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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in

message

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wrote
| What is your knot preference for making a dock line

off to a piling?


Rolling hitch.

Cheers,
Ellen






Ellen MacArthur September 16th 06 10:30 PM

Docking Situation Question #8
 

"Scotty" wrote
| Bzzzt...right answer, if that's her knot preference.


Thanks Scotty. Your sweet.... (every month or two :-0)

Cheers,
Ellen

Capt. JG September 17th 06 12:37 AM

Docking Situation Question #8
 
A rolling hitch is primarily used for relieving the strain from another
line. If that's her preference, she doesn't know much about knots.

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"Scotty" wrote in message
...
Bzzzt...right answer, if that's her knot preference.



"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Bzzzt. Wrong answer.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in

message

reenews.ne
t...

wrote
| What is your knot preference for making a dock line

off to a piling?


Rolling hitch.

Cheers,
Ellen








Scotty September 17th 06 06:57 AM

Docking Situation Question #8
 

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in
message
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t...

"Scotty" wrote
| Bzzzt...right answer, if that's her knot preference.


Thanks Scotty. Your sweet.... (every month or two

:-0)


No I'm not, I'm just honest!

SV



Walt September 18th 06 07:31 PM

Docking Situation Question #8
 
wrote:

What is your knot preference for making a dock line off to a piling?

What should be a concern when so moored.


Clove hitch, finished with a half hitch.

Why? because it's the fastest to tie: just make a reverse larks head,
put one loop over the other, and drop it over the piling. Add a half
hitch to keep it secure.

Docklines with eyesplices are even faster but I don't carry them.

//Walt

Bart Senior September 19th 06 04:06 PM

Docking Situation Question #8
 
Correct. It is no fun to have the tide swing bind up
for dockline and pull the boat under.

"Scotty" wrote
All my docklines have eyesplices in them, I loop through the
eye.

Tidal range.


What is your knot preference for making a dock line off to

a piling?

What should be a concern when so moored.






Bart Senior September 19th 06 04:10 PM

Docking Situation Question #8
 
It is worth mentioning that cleating off to the side
opposite the dock gives more length to the stern
line and allows for greater variation of tide.

"Scotty" wrote
All my docklines have eyesplices in them, I loop through the
eye.

Tidal range.

Scotty


What is your knot preference for making a dock line off to

a piling?

What should be a concern when so moored.





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