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ASA question #342 (part 1)
You've been randomly boarded by the Coast Guard. You are just outside the
demarcation line. You have a documented vessel under 12 meters and a 6-pak, near coastal ticket. Upon a thorough inspection by the CG, you're found to have all of the proper safety equipment in place and it is up-to-date. In addition, you have the documentation number posted, the documentation paperwork for the boat, the proper charts, and a copy of the Navigation Rules. The boat is properly marked on the hull, you have your original license, and have not exceeded the limits of your license in any way. The marpol sticker is aboard. Since you usually sail on Inland waters, the head is disabled from pumping over the side in the proper fashion. In fact, one of the boarding party remarks that you have generally exceeded the requirements. But, of course, they're not finished with their inspection. They interview your six passengers (you don't carry crew) and find everything is in order. For example, you've briefed them on the use of emergency equipment and shown them the location of fire-extinguishers and similar. This particular boarding party is exceedingly thorough, and unfortunately, they find that you're missing one item of paperwork. You're cited for this. Name this document. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
ASA question #342 (part 1)
Capt. JG wrote: You've been randomly boarded by the Coast Guard. You are just outside the demarcation line. You have a documented vessel under 12 meters and a 6-pak, near coastal ticket. Upon a thorough inspection by the CG, you're found to have all of the proper safety equipment in place and it is up-to-date. In addition, you have the documentation number posted, the documentation paperwork for the boat, the proper charts, and a copy of the Navigation Rules. The boat is properly marked on the hull, you have your original license, and have not exceeded the limits of your license in any way. The marpol sticker is aboard. Since you usually sail on Inland waters, the head is disabled from pumping over the side in the proper fashion. In fact, one of the boarding party remarks that you have generally exceeded the requirements. But, of course, they're not finished with their inspection. They interview your six passengers (you don't carry crew) and find everything is in order. For example, you've briefed them on the use of emergency equipment and shown them the location of fire-extinguishers and similar. This particular boarding party is exceedingly thorough, and unfortunately, they find that you're missing one item of paperwork. You're cited for this. Name this document. hard question Jon Is it the no drugs aboard info? Joe -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Capt. JG" | Name this document. Radio operators license for the VHF? Cheers, Ellen |
ASA question #342 (part 1)
"Capt. JG" | Name this document. Radio operators license for the VHF? Cheers, Ellen |
ASA question #342 (part 1)
Capt. JG wrote:
This particular boarding party is exceedingly thorough, and unfortunately, they find that you're missing one item of paperwork. You're cited for this. Name this document. Insurance certification? -- Capt Scumbalino |
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Bzzzz... nope
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... Capt. JG wrote: You've been randomly boarded by the Coast Guard. You are just outside the demarcation line. You have a documented vessel under 12 meters and a 6-pak, near coastal ticket. Upon a thorough inspection by the CG, you're found to have all of the proper safety equipment in place and it is up-to-date. In addition, you have the documentation number posted, the documentation paperwork for the boat, the proper charts, and a copy of the Navigation Rules. The boat is properly marked on the hull, you have your original license, and have not exceeded the limits of your license in any way. The marpol sticker is aboard. Since you usually sail on Inland waters, the head is disabled from pumping over the side in the proper fashion. In fact, one of the boarding party remarks that you have generally exceeded the requirements. But, of course, they're not finished with their inspection. They interview your six passengers (you don't carry crew) and find everything is in order. For example, you've briefed them on the use of emergency equipment and shown them the location of fire-extinguishers and similar. This particular boarding party is exceedingly thorough, and unfortunately, they find that you're missing one item of paperwork. You're cited for this. Name this document. hard question Jon Is it the no drugs aboard info? Joe -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Nope... nice thought though..
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message reenews.net... "Capt. JG" | Name this document. Radio operators license for the VHF? Cheers, Ellen |
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Nice guess and a possibility, but no that's not it.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Charlie Morgan" wrote in message ... On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 09:50:15 -0700, "Capt. JG" wrote: You've been randomly boarded by the Coast Guard. You are just outside the demarcation line. You have a documented vessel under 12 meters and a 6-pak, near coastal ticket. Upon a thorough inspection by the CG, you're found to have all of the proper safety equipment in place and it is up-to-date. In addition, you have the documentation number posted, the documentation paperwork for the boat, the proper charts, and a copy of the Navigation Rules. The boat is properly marked on the hull, you have your original license, and have not exceeded the limits of your license in any way. The marpol sticker is aboard. Since you usually sail on Inland waters, the head is disabled from pumping over the side in the proper fashion. In fact, one of the boarding party remarks that you have generally exceeded the requirements. But, of course, they're not finished with their inspection. They interview your six passengers (you don't carry crew) and find everything is in order. For example, you've briefed them on the use of emergency equipment and shown them the location of fire-extinguishers and similar. This particular boarding party is exceedingly thorough, and unfortunately, they find that you're missing one item of paperwork. You're cited for this. Name this document. Did you show them your manifest? CWM |
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Hint: It has to be posted not just carried.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... You've been randomly boarded by the Coast Guard. You are just outside the demarcation line. You have a documented vessel under 12 meters and a 6-pak, near coastal ticket. Upon a thorough inspection by the CG, you're found to have all of the proper safety equipment in place and it is up-to-date. In addition, you have the documentation number posted, the documentation paperwork for the boat, the proper charts, and a copy of the Navigation Rules. The boat is properly marked on the hull, you have your original license, and have not exceeded the limits of your license in any way. The marpol sticker is aboard. Since you usually sail on Inland waters, the head is disabled from pumping over the side in the proper fashion. In fact, one of the boarding party remarks that you have generally exceeded the requirements. But, of course, they're not finished with their inspection. They interview your six passengers (you don't carry crew) and find everything is in order. For example, you've briefed them on the use of emergency equipment and shown them the location of fire-extinguishers and similar. This particular boarding party is exceedingly thorough, and unfortunately, they find that you're missing one item of paperwork. You're cited for this. Name this document. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
ASA question #342 (part 1)
MROL
"Capt. JG" wrote This particular boarding party is exceedingly thorough, and unfortunately, they find that you're missing one item of paperwork. You're cited for this. Name this document. |
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I have a sign like that.. Gentleman shall be seated. :-)
The other... nope. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Charlie Morgan" wrote in message ... On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:44:03 -0700, "Capt. JG" wrote: Hint: It has to be posted not just carried. The sign over the the head that says, "Our aim is to keep this place clean. Your aim would be appreciated" ...either that or the other one telling how many passengers you are allowed to carry. CWM |
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Don't have a ham aboard... also isn't that for larger vessels for
radiotelephone? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ... MROL "Capt. JG" wrote This particular boarding party is exceedingly thorough, and unfortunately, they find that you're missing one item of paperwork. You're cited for this. Name this document. |
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Pride Integrity & Guts
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Charlie Morgan" wrote in message ... On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 14:46:15 -0400, "Bart Senior" .@. wrote: MROL You're such a Ham, Bart. CWM "Capt. JG" wrote This particular boarding party is exceedingly thorough, and unfortunately, they find that you're missing one item of paperwork. You're cited for this. Name this document. |
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did you show them your anti-terrorist picture ID ?
Scotty "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... You've been randomly boarded by the Coast Guard. You are just outside the demarcation line. You have a documented vessel under 12 meters and a 6-pak, near coastal ticket. Upon a thorough inspection by the CG, you're found to have all of the proper safety equipment in place and it is up-to-date. In addition, you have the documentation number posted, the documentation paperwork for the boat, the proper charts, and a copy of the Navigation Rules. The boat is properly marked on the hull, you have your original license, and have not exceeded the limits of your license in any way. The marpol sticker is aboard. Since you usually sail on Inland waters, the head is disabled from pumping over the side in the proper fashion. In fact, one of the boarding party remarks that you have generally exceeded the requirements. But, of course, they're not finished with their inspection. They interview your six passengers (you don't carry crew) and find everything is in order. For example, you've briefed them on the use of emergency equipment and shown them the location of fire-extinguishers and similar. This particular boarding party is exceedingly thorough, and unfortunately, they find that you're missing one item of paperwork. You're cited for this. Name this document. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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You mentioned the Marpol, what about the ''oil discharge''
placard. Does that only need to be displayed near the engine? SV "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Hint: It has to be posted not just carried. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... You've been randomly boarded by the Coast Guard. You are just outside the demarcation line. You have a documented vessel under 12 meters and a 6-pak, near coastal ticket. Upon a thorough inspection by the CG, you're found to have all of the proper safety equipment in place and it is up-to-date. In addition, you have the documentation number posted, the documentation paperwork for the boat, the proper charts, and a copy of the Navigation Rules. The boat is properly marked on the hull, you have your original license, and have not exceeded the limits of your license in any way. The marpol sticker is aboard. Since you usually sail on Inland waters, the head is disabled from pumping over the side in the proper fashion. In fact, one of the boarding party remarks that you have generally exceeded the requirements. But, of course, they're not finished with their inspection. They interview your six passengers (you don't carry crew) and find everything is in order. For example, you've briefed them on the use of emergency equipment and shown them the location of fire-extinguishers and similar. This particular boarding party is exceedingly thorough, and unfortunately, they find that you're missing one item of paperwork. You're cited for this. Name this document. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Good try. I'll give you a 1/2 point. But, that's not it.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scotty" wrote in message ... You mentioned the Marpol, what about the ''oil discharge'' placard. Does that only need to be displayed near the engine? SV "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Hint: It has to be posted not just carried. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... You've been randomly boarded by the Coast Guard. You are just outside the demarcation line. You have a documented vessel under 12 meters and a 6-pak, near coastal ticket. Upon a thorough inspection by the CG, you're found to have all of the proper safety equipment in place and it is up-to-date. In addition, you have the documentation number posted, the documentation paperwork for the boat, the proper charts, and a copy of the Navigation Rules. The boat is properly marked on the hull, you have your original license, and have not exceeded the limits of your license in any way. The marpol sticker is aboard. Since you usually sail on Inland waters, the head is disabled from pumping over the side in the proper fashion. In fact, one of the boarding party remarks that you have generally exceeded the requirements. But, of course, they're not finished with their inspection. They interview your six passengers (you don't carry crew) and find everything is in order. For example, you've briefed them on the use of emergency equipment and shown them the location of fire-extinguishers and similar. This particular boarding party is exceedingly thorough, and unfortunately, they find that you're missing one item of paperwork. You're cited for this. Name this document. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Now I know the problem... I showed them my ACLU card.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scotty" wrote in message ... did you show them your anti-terrorist picture ID ? Scotty "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... You've been randomly boarded by the Coast Guard. You are just outside the demarcation line. You have a documented vessel under 12 meters and a 6-pak, near coastal ticket. Upon a thorough inspection by the CG, you're found to have all of the proper safety equipment in place and it is up-to-date. In addition, you have the documentation number posted, the documentation paperwork for the boat, the proper charts, and a copy of the Navigation Rules. The boat is properly marked on the hull, you have your original license, and have not exceeded the limits of your license in any way. The marpol sticker is aboard. Since you usually sail on Inland waters, the head is disabled from pumping over the side in the proper fashion. In fact, one of the boarding party remarks that you have generally exceeded the requirements. But, of course, they're not finished with their inspection. They interview your six passengers (you don't carry crew) and find everything is in order. For example, you've briefed them on the use of emergency equipment and shown them the location of fire-extinguishers and similar. This particular boarding party is exceedingly thorough, and unfortunately, they find that you're missing one item of paperwork. You're cited for this. Name this document. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Ok... nobody seems to have gotten it... how about the Emergency Check-off
List... it has to be posted, not just aboard. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... You've been randomly boarded by the Coast Guard. You are just outside the demarcation line. You have a documented vessel under 12 meters and a 6-pak, near coastal ticket. Upon a thorough inspection by the CG, you're found to have all of the proper safety equipment in place and it is up-to-date. In addition, you have the documentation number posted, the documentation paperwork for the boat, the proper charts, and a copy of the Navigation Rules. The boat is properly marked on the hull, you have your original license, and have not exceeded the limits of your license in any way. The marpol sticker is aboard. Since you usually sail on Inland waters, the head is disabled from pumping over the side in the proper fashion. In fact, one of the boarding party remarks that you have generally exceeded the requirements. But, of course, they're not finished with their inspection. They interview your six passengers (you don't carry crew) and find everything is in order. For example, you've briefed them on the use of emergency equipment and shown them the location of fire-extinguishers and similar. This particular boarding party is exceedingly thorough, and unfortunately, they find that you're missing one item of paperwork. You're cited for this. Name this document. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
ASA question #342 (part 1)
Ellen MacArthur wrote: "Capt. JG" | Name this document. Radio operators license for the VHF? phased out in the 90's.... use to have to have it to get a ticket. Joe Cheers, Ellen |
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Capt. JG wrote:
Hint: It has to be posted not just carried. Easy. The pollution sticker. BTW my first thought when you mentioned "paperwork" was that with the head disabled for inshore, you wouldn't be carrying TP. DSK |
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IIRC I looked that one up because my placard is on the
engine access door, which is blocked by the companionway steps. SBV "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Good try. I'll give you a 1/2 point. But, that's not it. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scotty" wrote in message ... You mentioned the Marpol, what about the ''oil discharge'' placard. Does that only need to be displayed near the engine? SV "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Hint: It has to be posted not just carried. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... You've been randomly boarded by the Coast Guard. You are just outside the demarcation line. You have a documented vessel under 12 meters and a 6-pak, near coastal ticket. Upon a thorough inspection by the CG, you're found to have all of the proper safety equipment in place and it is up-to-date. In addition, you have the documentation number posted, the documentation paperwork for the boat, the proper charts, and a copy of the Navigation Rules. The boat is properly marked on the hull, you have your original license, and have not exceeded the limits of your license in any way. The marpol sticker is aboard. Since you usually sail on Inland waters, the head is disabled from pumping over the side in the proper fashion. In fact, one of the boarding party remarks that you have generally exceeded the requirements. But, of course, they're not finished with their inspection. They interview your six passengers (you don't carry crew) and find everything is in order. For example, you've briefed them on the use of emergency equipment and shown them the location of fire-extinguishers and similar. This particular boarding party is exceedingly thorough, and unfortunately, they find that you're missing one item of paperwork. You're cited for this. Name this document. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Nope... :-) Not so easy... the sticker is there.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "DSK" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: Hint: It has to be posted not just carried. Easy. The pollution sticker. BTW my first thought when you mentioned "paperwork" was that with the head disabled for inshore, you wouldn't be carrying TP. DSK |
ASA question #342 (part 1)
"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... You've been randomly boarded by the Coast Guard. You are just outside the demarcation line. You have a documented vessel under 12 meters and a 6-pak, near coastal ticket. Upon a thorough inspection by the CG, you're found to have all of the proper safety equipment in place and it is up-to-date. In addition, you have the documentation number posted, the documentation paperwork for the boat, the proper charts, and a copy of the Navigation Rules. The boat is properly marked on the hull, you have your original license, and have not exceeded the limits of your license in any way. The marpol sticker is aboard. Since you usually sail on Inland waters, the head is disabled from pumping over the side in the proper fashion. In fact, one of the boarding party remarks that you have generally exceeded the requirements. But, of course, they're not finished with their inspection. They interview your six passengers (you don't carry crew) and find everything is in order. For example, you've briefed them on the use of emergency equipment and shown them the location of fire-extinguishers and similar. This particular boarding party is exceedingly thorough, and unfortunately, they find that you're missing one item of paperwork. You're cited for this. Name this document. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com Passenger manifest? Know when the CG boarded us in the Keys last May, they asked for names/dob's before they actually boarded. John Cairns |
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No, but I do have a question... can the manfest be a log entry or does it
have to be a different document? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "John Cairns" wrote in message t... "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... You've been randomly boarded by the Coast Guard. You are just outside the demarcation line. You have a documented vessel under 12 meters and a 6-pak, near coastal ticket. Upon a thorough inspection by the CG, you're found to have all of the proper safety equipment in place and it is up-to-date. In addition, you have the documentation number posted, the documentation paperwork for the boat, the proper charts, and a copy of the Navigation Rules. The boat is properly marked on the hull, you have your original license, and have not exceeded the limits of your license in any way. The marpol sticker is aboard. Since you usually sail on Inland waters, the head is disabled from pumping over the side in the proper fashion. In fact, one of the boarding party remarks that you have generally exceeded the requirements. But, of course, they're not finished with their inspection. They interview your six passengers (you don't carry crew) and find everything is in order. For example, you've briefed them on the use of emergency equipment and shown them the location of fire-extinguishers and similar. This particular boarding party is exceedingly thorough, and unfortunately, they find that you're missing one item of paperwork. You're cited for this. Name this document. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com Passenger manifest? Know when the CG boarded us in the Keys last May, they asked for names/dob's before they actually boarded. John Cairns |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Ok... nobody seems to have gotten it... how about the Emergency Check-off List... it has to be posted, not just aboard. What the heck happened to the "freedom of the seas"? You claim to be a democracy, and yet you won't let a man get into his boat to do a bit of sailing without an "Emergency Check-off List"? There was more freedom under Stalin(if you didn't go outside the 12 mile limit). Regards Donal -- |
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MROL permits are required to operate radiotelephone
stations aboard certain vessels that sail the Great Lakes. They are also required to operate radiotelephone stations aboard vessels of more than 300 gross tons and vessels which carry more than six passengers for hire in the open sea or any tidewater area of the United States. They are also required to operate certain aviation radiotelephone stations and certain coast radiotelephone stations. I thought it was a requirement for vessels sailing offshore. Perhaps the rules changed. "Capt. JG" wrote Don't have a ham aboard... also isn't that for larger vessels for radiotelephone? "Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ... MROL "Capt. JG" wrote This particular boarding party is exceedingly thorough, and unfortunately, they find that you're missing one item of paperwork. You're cited for this. Name this document. |
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"Donal" wrote in message ... "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Ok... nobody seems to have gotten it... how about the Emergency Check-off List... it has to be posted, not just aboard. What the heck happened to the "freedom of the seas"? You claim to be a democracy, and yet you won't let a man get into his boat to do a bit of sailing without an "Emergency Check-off List"? There was more freedom under Stalin(if you didn't go outside the 12 mile limit). Calm down Donut! Ganz is talking about a Capt. with paying passengers, not just some schmuck out for a daysail. SBV |
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For pleasure craft, this isn't an issue. This is for a commercial vessel.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Donal" wrote in message ... "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Ok... nobody seems to have gotten it... how about the Emergency Check-off List... it has to be posted, not just aboard. What the heck happened to the "freedom of the seas"? You claim to be a democracy, and yet you won't let a man get into his boat to do a bit of sailing without an "Emergency Check-off List"? There was more freedom under Stalin(if you didn't go outside the 12 mile limit). Regards Donal -- |
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Can you repost #1 through #341?
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Capt. JG wrote: No, but I do have a question... can the manfest be a log entry or does it have to be a different document? Passenger and crew arrival manifests must include the following information, where applicable: (1) full name; (2) date of birth; (3) gender; (4) citizenship; (5) country of residence; (6) status onboard the vessel; (7) travel document type; (8) passport number; (9) passport country of issuance; (10) passport expiration date; (11) alien registration number; (12) address in the United States; (13) passenger name record locator; (14) foreign port or place where trip began; (15) port or place of first arrival; (16) final foreign port or place of destination; (17) vessel name; (18) vessel registry; (19) vessel IMO or other official number; (20) voyage number; and (21) date of vessel arrival. Passenger and crew departure manifest requirements are largely the same, but omit (1) country of residence; (2) address in the United States; and (3) port or place of first arrival. Additionally, the departure manifests must include the date of vessel departure versus the date of vessel arrival, as listed in requirement (21) of the previous paragraph. "Verification" Requirement For both vessel arrival and departure manifests, operators have an obligation to compare the travel document (e.g., passport) presented by the passenger with the manifest information it intends to submit to the CBP to ensure that the information is accurate. Although the extent of an operator's legal obligation to cross-check this information is unclear, the CBP has stated that it only expects operators to make a "reasonable effort" to ensure accuracy. For example, operators should ensure that the travel document appears to be valid for travel to the United States and that the passenger or crew member presenting the document is the person to whom it was issued. Time Requirement for Transmission of Information For arrivals into the United States, passenger and crew manifests are due at least 96 hours before entering the first United States port or destination for voyages of 96 hours or more. For voyages between 24 and 96 hours, the manifests are due prior to departure of the vessel. In the case of voyages less than 24 hours, the manifests are due at least 24 hours before entering the first U.S. port or destination. In the event of an emergency that forces a vessel to make a stop in a U.S. port, the CBP expects manifest transmission before the vessel enters the U.S. port, but it will take into consideration the circumstances of the emergency and the carrier's ability to transmit the information. For departures from the United States, manifests must be submitted no later than 15 minutes before the vessel departs from the United States. For both arrival and departures, amendments to manifests may be made in case crew members board the vessel after original submission. For arrival crew manifests, these amendments are due at least 12 to 24 hours prior to arrival, depending on the time remaining in the voyage. For departure crew manifests, amendments must be submitted no later than 12 hours after departure from the U.S. Method of Submission CBP has teamed with the Coast Guard to provide the industry with a "one stop shop" through which manifests may be transmitted. The Electronic Notice of Arrival / Departure ("eNOA/D") system is available through the Coast Guard's National Vessel Movement Center Web site at https://www.nvmc.uscg.gov/enoa/Logon.aspx. One benefit of this system is that a successful transmission through eNOA/D fully complies with both the Coast Guard and CBP regulations to submit manifests. However, if passenger and crew manifest information is not sent through the eNOA/D system, it must manually be submit to both the Coast Guard and CBP separately. In addition, CBP still requires operators to submit paper copies of forms I-418 (Passenger List / Crew List) and I-94 (Arrival / Departure Record), but they are considering eliminating this requirement some time in the future. Crew manifests - both arrival and departure - must still be submitted in paper form as required by 8 C.F.R. § 251.5. Conclusions and Recommendations Issuance of this rule affects commercial passenger and cargo vessels because they will be required to submit electronic passenger and crew manifests in advance of arrival and prior to departure from U.S. ports. Entities must take the new requirements into account in order to avoid possible criminal and civil penalties that may result from non-compliance. Joe -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "John Cairns" wrote in message t... "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... You've been randomly boarded by the Coast Guard. You are just outside the demarcation line. You have a documented vessel under 12 meters and a 6-pak, near coastal ticket. Upon a thorough inspection by the CG, you're found to have all of the proper safety equipment in place and it is up-to-date. In addition, you have the documentation number posted, the documentation paperwork for the boat, the proper charts, and a copy of the Navigation Rules. The boat is properly marked on the hull, you have your original license, and have not exceeded the limits of your license in any way. The marpol sticker is aboard. Since you usually sail on Inland waters, the head is disabled from pumping over the side in the proper fashion. In fact, one of the boarding party remarks that you have generally exceeded the requirements. But, of course, they're not finished with their inspection. They interview your six passengers (you don't carry crew) and find everything is in order. For example, you've briefed them on the use of emergency equipment and shown them the location of fire-extinguishers and similar. This particular boarding party is exceedingly thorough, and unfortunately, they find that you're missing one item of paperwork. You're cited for this. Name this document. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com Passenger manifest? Know when the CG boarded us in the Keys last May, they asked for names/dob's before they actually boarded. John Cairns |
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I'm not sure how this would apply for leaving and returning to the same US
port, especially since this is local charter. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... Capt. JG wrote: No, but I do have a question... can the manfest be a log entry or does it have to be a different document? Passenger and crew arrival manifests must include the following information, where applicable: (1) full name; (2) date of birth; (3) gender; (4) citizenship; (5) country of residence; (6) status onboard the vessel; (7) travel document type; (8) passport number; (9) passport country of issuance; (10) passport expiration date; (11) alien registration number; (12) address in the United States; (13) passenger name record locator; (14) foreign port or place where trip began; (15) port or place of first arrival; (16) final foreign port or place of destination; (17) vessel name; (18) vessel registry; (19) vessel IMO or other official number; (20) voyage number; and (21) date of vessel arrival. Passenger and crew departure manifest requirements are largely the same, but omit (1) country of residence; (2) address in the United States; and (3) port or place of first arrival. Additionally, the departure manifests must include the date of vessel departure versus the date of vessel arrival, as listed in requirement (21) of the previous paragraph. "Verification" Requirement For both vessel arrival and departure manifests, operators have an obligation to compare the travel document (e.g., passport) presented by the passenger with the manifest information it intends to submit to the CBP to ensure that the information is accurate. Although the extent of an operator's legal obligation to cross-check this information is unclear, the CBP has stated that it only expects operators to make a "reasonable effort" to ensure accuracy. For example, operators should ensure that the travel document appears to be valid for travel to the United States and that the passenger or crew member presenting the document is the person to whom it was issued. Time Requirement for Transmission of Information For arrivals into the United States, passenger and crew manifests are due at least 96 hours before entering the first United States port or destination for voyages of 96 hours or more. For voyages between 24 and 96 hours, the manifests are due prior to departure of the vessel. In the case of voyages less than 24 hours, the manifests are due at least 24 hours before entering the first U.S. port or destination. In the event of an emergency that forces a vessel to make a stop in a U.S. port, the CBP expects manifest transmission before the vessel enters the U.S. port, but it will take into consideration the circumstances of the emergency and the carrier's ability to transmit the information. For departures from the United States, manifests must be submitted no later than 15 minutes before the vessel departs from the United States. For both arrival and departures, amendments to manifests may be made in case crew members board the vessel after original submission. For arrival crew manifests, these amendments are due at least 12 to 24 hours prior to arrival, depending on the time remaining in the voyage. For departure crew manifests, amendments must be submitted no later than 12 hours after departure from the U.S. Method of Submission CBP has teamed with the Coast Guard to provide the industry with a "one stop shop" through which manifests may be transmitted. The Electronic Notice of Arrival / Departure ("eNOA/D") system is available through the Coast Guard's National Vessel Movement Center Web site at https://www.nvmc.uscg.gov/enoa/Logon.aspx. One benefit of this system is that a successful transmission through eNOA/D fully complies with both the Coast Guard and CBP regulations to submit manifests. However, if passenger and crew manifest information is not sent through the eNOA/D system, it must manually be submit to both the Coast Guard and CBP separately. In addition, CBP still requires operators to submit paper copies of forms I-418 (Passenger List / Crew List) and I-94 (Arrival / Departure Record), but they are considering eliminating this requirement some time in the future. Crew manifests - both arrival and departure - must still be submitted in paper form as required by 8 C.F.R. § 251.5. Conclusions and Recommendations Issuance of this rule affects commercial passenger and cargo vessels because they will be required to submit electronic passenger and crew manifests in advance of arrival and prior to departure from U.S. ports. Entities must take the new requirements into account in order to avoid possible criminal and civil penalties that may result from non-compliance. Joe -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "John Cairns" wrote in message t... "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... You've been randomly boarded by the Coast Guard. You are just outside the demarcation line. You have a documented vessel under 12 meters and a 6-pak, near coastal ticket. Upon a thorough inspection by the CG, you're found to have all of the proper safety equipment in place and it is up-to-date. In addition, you have the documentation number posted, the documentation paperwork for the boat, the proper charts, and a copy of the Navigation Rules. The boat is properly marked on the hull, you have your original license, and have not exceeded the limits of your license in any way. The marpol sticker is aboard. Since you usually sail on Inland waters, the head is disabled from pumping over the side in the proper fashion. In fact, one of the boarding party remarks that you have generally exceeded the requirements. But, of course, they're not finished with their inspection. They interview your six passengers (you don't carry crew) and find everything is in order. For example, you've briefed them on the use of emergency equipment and shown them the location of fire-extinguishers and similar. This particular boarding party is exceedingly thorough, and unfortunately, they find that you're missing one item of paperwork. You're cited for this. Name this document. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com Passenger manifest? Know when the CG boarded us in the Keys last May, they asked for names/dob's before they actually boarded. John Cairns |
ASA question #342 (part 1)
Yeah... however, I don't think you should hold your breath wating. :-)
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com wrote in message oups.com... Can you repost #1 through #341? |
ASA question #342 (part 1)
Capt. JG wrote: I'm not sure how this would apply for leaving and returning to the same US port, especially since this is local charter. Well in the many yrs I ran crewboats carrying up to 85 passangers we never carried a passanger manifest. Never. We knew the number of passangers but that was about as detailed as we ever got. Cargo manifest yes, anytime we carried cargo and quite detailed. Joe -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... Capt. JG wrote: No, but I do have a question... can the manfest be a log entry or does it have to be a different document? Passenger and crew arrival manifests must include the following information, where applicable: (1) full name; (2) date of birth; (3) gender; (4) citizenship; (5) country of residence; (6) status onboard the vessel; (7) travel document type; (8) passport number; (9) passport country of issuance; (10) passport expiration date; (11) alien registration number; (12) address in the United States; (13) passenger name record locator; (14) foreign port or place where trip began; (15) port or place of first arrival; (16) final foreign port or place of destination; (17) vessel name; (18) vessel registry; (19) vessel IMO or other official number; (20) voyage number; and (21) date of vessel arrival. Passenger and crew departure manifest requirements are largely the same, but omit (1) country of residence; (2) address in the United States; and (3) port or place of first arrival. Additionally, the departure manifests must include the date of vessel departure versus the date of vessel arrival, as listed in requirement (21) of the previous paragraph. "Verification" Requirement For both vessel arrival and departure manifests, operators have an obligation to compare the travel document (e.g., passport) presented by the passenger with the manifest information it intends to submit to the CBP to ensure that the information is accurate. Although the extent of an operator's legal obligation to cross-check this information is unclear, the CBP has stated that it only expects operators to make a "reasonable effort" to ensure accuracy. For example, operators should ensure that the travel document appears to be valid for travel to the United States and that the passenger or crew member presenting the document is the person to whom it was issued. Time Requirement for Transmission of Information For arrivals into the United States, passenger and crew manifests are due at least 96 hours before entering the first United States port or destination for voyages of 96 hours or more. For voyages between 24 and 96 hours, the manifests are due prior to departure of the vessel. In the case of voyages less than 24 hours, the manifests are due at least 24 hours before entering the first U.S. port or destination. In the event of an emergency that forces a vessel to make a stop in a U.S. port, the CBP expects manifest transmission before the vessel enters the U.S. port, but it will take into consideration the circumstances of the emergency and the carrier's ability to transmit the information. For departures from the United States, manifests must be submitted no later than 15 minutes before the vessel departs from the United States. For both arrival and departures, amendments to manifests may be made in case crew members board the vessel after original submission. For arrival crew manifests, these amendments are due at least 12 to 24 hours prior to arrival, depending on the time remaining in the voyage. For departure crew manifests, amendments must be submitted no later than 12 hours after departure from the U.S. Method of Submission CBP has teamed with the Coast Guard to provide the industry with a "one stop shop" through which manifests may be transmitted. The Electronic Notice of Arrival / Departure ("eNOA/D") system is available through the Coast Guard's National Vessel Movement Center Web site at https://www.nvmc.uscg.gov/enoa/Logon.aspx. One benefit of this system is that a successful transmission through eNOA/D fully complies with both the Coast Guard and CBP regulations to submit manifests. However, if passenger and crew manifest information is not sent through the eNOA/D system, it must manually be submit to both the Coast Guard and CBP separately. In addition, CBP still requires operators to submit paper copies of forms I-418 (Passenger List / Crew List) and I-94 (Arrival / Departure Record), but they are considering eliminating this requirement some time in the future. Crew manifests - both arrival and departure - must still be submitted in paper form as required by 8 C.F.R. § 251.5. Conclusions and Recommendations Issuance of this rule affects commercial passenger and cargo vessels because they will be required to submit electronic passenger and crew manifests in advance of arrival and prior to departure from U.S. ports. Entities must take the new requirements into account in order to avoid possible criminal and civil penalties that may result from non-compliance. Joe -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "John Cairns" wrote in message t... "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... You've been randomly boarded by the Coast Guard. You are just outside the demarcation line. You have a documented vessel under 12 meters and a 6-pak, near coastal ticket. Upon a thorough inspection by the CG, you're found to have all of the proper safety equipment in place and it is up-to-date. In addition, you have the documentation number posted, the documentation paperwork for the boat, the proper charts, and a copy of the Navigation Rules. The boat is properly marked on the hull, you have your original license, and have not exceeded the limits of your license in any way. The marpol sticker is aboard. Since you usually sail on Inland waters, the head is disabled from pumping over the side in the proper fashion. In fact, one of the boarding party remarks that you have generally exceeded the requirements. But, of course, they're not finished with their inspection. They interview your six passengers (you don't carry crew) and find everything is in order. For example, you've briefed them on the use of emergency equipment and shown them the location of fire-extinguishers and similar. This particular boarding party is exceedingly thorough, and unfortunately, they find that you're missing one item of paperwork. You're cited for this. Name this document. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com Passenger manifest? Know when the CG boarded us in the Keys last May, they asked for names/dob's before they actually boarded. John Cairns |
ASA question #342 (part 1)
I can't imagine the ferries, for example, would even attempt a manefest.
Perhaps the tickets they issue might qualify or maybe the ticket sales receipts. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... Capt. JG wrote: I'm not sure how this would apply for leaving and returning to the same US port, especially since this is local charter. Well in the many yrs I ran crewboats carrying up to 85 passangers we never carried a passanger manifest. Never. We knew the number of passangers but that was about as detailed as we ever got. Cargo manifest yes, anytime we carried cargo and quite detailed. Joe -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... Capt. JG wrote: No, but I do have a question... can the manfest be a log entry or does it have to be a different document? Passenger and crew arrival manifests must include the following information, where applicable: (1) full name; (2) date of birth; (3) gender; (4) citizenship; (5) country of residence; (6) status onboard the vessel; (7) travel document type; (8) passport number; (9) passport country of issuance; (10) passport expiration date; (11) alien registration number; (12) address in the United States; (13) passenger name record locator; (14) foreign port or place where trip began; (15) port or place of first arrival; (16) final foreign port or place of destination; (17) vessel name; (18) vessel registry; (19) vessel IMO or other official number; (20) voyage number; and (21) date of vessel arrival. Passenger and crew departure manifest requirements are largely the same, but omit (1) country of residence; (2) address in the United States; and (3) port or place of first arrival. Additionally, the departure manifests must include the date of vessel departure versus the date of vessel arrival, as listed in requirement (21) of the previous paragraph. "Verification" Requirement For both vessel arrival and departure manifests, operators have an obligation to compare the travel document (e.g., passport) presented by the passenger with the manifest information it intends to submit to the CBP to ensure that the information is accurate. Although the extent of an operator's legal obligation to cross-check this information is unclear, the CBP has stated that it only expects operators to make a "reasonable effort" to ensure accuracy. For example, operators should ensure that the travel document appears to be valid for travel to the United States and that the passenger or crew member presenting the document is the person to whom it was issued. Time Requirement for Transmission of Information For arrivals into the United States, passenger and crew manifests are due at least 96 hours before entering the first United States port or destination for voyages of 96 hours or more. For voyages between 24 and 96 hours, the manifests are due prior to departure of the vessel. In the case of voyages less than 24 hours, the manifests are due at least 24 hours before entering the first U.S. port or destination. In the event of an emergency that forces a vessel to make a stop in a U.S. port, the CBP expects manifest transmission before the vessel enters the U.S. port, but it will take into consideration the circumstances of the emergency and the carrier's ability to transmit the information. For departures from the United States, manifests must be submitted no later than 15 minutes before the vessel departs from the United States. For both arrival and departures, amendments to manifests may be made in case crew members board the vessel after original submission. For arrival crew manifests, these amendments are due at least 12 to 24 hours prior to arrival, depending on the time remaining in the voyage. For departure crew manifests, amendments must be submitted no later than 12 hours after departure from the U.S. Method of Submission CBP has teamed with the Coast Guard to provide the industry with a "one stop shop" through which manifests may be transmitted. The Electronic Notice of Arrival / Departure ("eNOA/D") system is available through the Coast Guard's National Vessel Movement Center Web site at https://www.nvmc.uscg.gov/enoa/Logon.aspx. One benefit of this system is that a successful transmission through eNOA/D fully complies with both the Coast Guard and CBP regulations to submit manifests. However, if passenger and crew manifest information is not sent through the eNOA/D system, it must manually be submit to both the Coast Guard and CBP separately. In addition, CBP still requires operators to submit paper copies of forms I-418 (Passenger List / Crew List) and I-94 (Arrival / Departure Record), but they are considering eliminating this requirement some time in the future. Crew manifests - both arrival and departure - must still be submitted in paper form as required by 8 C.F.R. § 251.5. Conclusions and Recommendations Issuance of this rule affects commercial passenger and cargo vessels because they will be required to submit electronic passenger and crew manifests in advance of arrival and prior to departure from U.S. ports. Entities must take the new requirements into account in order to avoid possible criminal and civil penalties that may result from non-compliance. Joe -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "John Cairns" wrote in message t... "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... You've been randomly boarded by the Coast Guard. You are just outside the demarcation line. You have a documented vessel under 12 meters and a 6-pak, near coastal ticket. Upon a thorough inspection by the CG, you're found to have all of the proper safety equipment in place and it is up-to-date. In addition, you have the documentation number posted, the documentation paperwork for the boat, the proper charts, and a copy of the Navigation Rules. The boat is properly marked on the hull, you have your original license, and have not exceeded the limits of your license in any way. The marpol sticker is aboard. Since you usually sail on Inland waters, the head is disabled from pumping over the side in the proper fashion. In fact, one of the boarding party remarks that you have generally exceeded the requirements. But, of course, they're not finished with their inspection. They interview your six passengers (you don't carry crew) and find everything is in order. For example, you've briefed them on the use of emergency equipment and shown them the location of fire-extinguishers and similar. This particular boarding party is exceedingly thorough, and unfortunately, they find that you're missing one item of paperwork. You're cited for this. Name this document. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com Passenger manifest? Know when the CG boarded us in the Keys last May, they asked for names/dob's before they actually boarded. John Cairns |
ASA question #342 (part 1)
For a bonus point, what are the three major areas that must be on the
check-off list? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... You've been randomly boarded by the Coast Guard. You are just outside the demarcation line. You have a documented vessel under 12 meters and a 6-pak, near coastal ticket. Upon a thorough inspection by the CG, you're found to have all of the proper safety equipment in place and it is up-to-date. In addition, you have the documentation number posted, the documentation paperwork for the boat, the proper charts, and a copy of the Navigation Rules. The boat is properly marked on the hull, you have your original license, and have not exceeded the limits of your license in any way. The marpol sticker is aboard. Since you usually sail on Inland waters, the head is disabled from pumping over the side in the proper fashion. In fact, one of the boarding party remarks that you have generally exceeded the requirements. But, of course, they're not finished with their inspection. They interview your six passengers (you don't carry crew) and find everything is in order. For example, you've briefed them on the use of emergency equipment and shown them the location of fire-extinguishers and similar. This particular boarding party is exceedingly thorough, and unfortunately, they find that you're missing one item of paperwork. You're cited for this. Name this document. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
ASA question #342 (part 1)
Capt. JG wrote:
I can't imagine the ferries, for example, would even attempt a manefest. Perhaps the tickets they issue might qualify or maybe the ticket sales receipts. No - often the tickets are good for any trip in a year. Usually they just count how many go on board, but I doubt they get that exact. |
ASA question #342 (part 1)
"Scotty" wrote in message . .. Calm down Donut! Ganz is talking about a Capt. with paying passengers, not just some schmuck out for a daysail. Ahhh... Perhaps I am becoming a little paranoid. Over here, we now need to have a written passage plan before we sail offshore. This Passage Plan *must* include such things as your Course to Steer, a weather forecast, and a Risk Assessment that takes into account the skills of your crew!!! Nobody on deck may be under the influence of alcohol. The limits that apply to car drivers who travel in close proximity at 70mph, also apply to sailors who travel at 5kts in the wide open spaces of the seas. Regards Donal -- |
ASA question #342 (part 1)
"Donal" wrote in Calm down Donut! Ganz is talking about a Capt. with paying passengers, not just some schmuck out for a daysail. Ahhh... Perhaps I am becoming a little paranoid. Over here, we now need to have a written passage plan before we sail offshore. This Passage Plan *must* include such things as your Course to Steer, a weather forecast, and a Risk Assessment that takes into account the skills of your crew!!! Nobody on deck may be under the influence of alcohol. The limits that apply to car drivers who travel in close proximity at 70mph, also apply to sailors who travel at 5kts in the wide open spaces of the seas. Did you move to Russia? What the heck happened to the "freedom of the seas"? You claim to be a democracy, and yet you won't let a man get into his boat to do a bit of sailing without a ''Passage Plan'' with Risk ASSessment'' ? There was more freedom under Hitler! Scotty |
ASA question #342 (part 1)
"Scotty" wrote in message . .. You claim to be a democracy, and yet you won't let a man get into his boat to do a bit of sailing without a ''Passage Plan'' with Risk ASSessment'' ? There was more freedom under Hitler! Yup! That's the way that the world is going. I'd prefer to live under Franco than under Blair. Personal Freedom used to be something that politicians felt able to defend. Nowadays, they seem to pander to the whims of the unemployed. Regards Donal -- |
ASA question #342 (part 1)
"Donal" wrote in message ... "Scotty" wrote in message . .. You claim to be a democracy, and yet you won't let a man get into his boat to do a bit of sailing without a ''Passage Plan'' with Risk ASSessment'' ? There was more freedom under Hitler! Yup! That's the way that the world is going. I'd prefer to live under Franco than under Blair. Personal Freedom used to be something that politicians felt able to defend. Nowadays, they seem to pander to the whims of the unemployed. It seems that ''Homeland Security'' is trying to turn our Coast Guard into their SS Gestapo. Cheers, Scotty |
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