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DSK September 6th 06 02:03 AM

Sad end of a good little boat
 
Well, I just got a phone call earlier tonight from the man
who bought our Hunter 19 a few years ago. The boat was hit
by lightning this afternoon and is destroyed.

It's really a shame, a lot of miles of water (and highway)
passed under that boat. We enjoyed it tremendously as did he
& his family.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Joe September 6th 06 02:08 AM

Sad end of a good little boat
 

DSK wrote:
Well, I just got a phone call earlier tonight from the man
who bought our Hunter 19 a few years ago. The boat was hit
by lightning this afternoon and is destroyed.

It's really a shame, a lot of miles of water (and highway)
passed under that boat. We enjoyed it tremendously as did he
& his family.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Too bad it was not made of steel!

Joe
"I must not bide for wind or wave;
I must not heed, though tempest rave;
My course is set, my hour is known,
And I must front the dark, alone. "


DSK September 6th 06 02:23 AM

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Joe wrote:
Too bad it was not made of steel!


If it had been steel, it would not have made 1/10th the
cruises it did, because it would be too heavy to trailer so
easily.

DSK


Gilligan September 6th 06 02:25 AM

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"DSK" wrote in message
...
Joe wrote:
Too bad it was not made of steel!


If it had been steel, it would not have made 1/10th the cruises it did,
because it would be too heavy to trailer so easily.

DSK


If it were steel you could have welded wheels on to it to save weight by
eliminating the trailer.



katy September 6th 06 02:29 AM

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DSK wrote:
Well, I just got a phone call earlier tonight from the man who bought
our Hunter 19 a few years ago. The boat was hit by lightning this
afternoon and is destroyed.

It's really a shame, a lot of miles of water (and highway) passed under
that boat. We enjoyed it tremendously as did he & his family.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

ouch....ot's bad news...funny how attached you stay to your former
vessels...

Joe September 6th 06 02:32 AM

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DSK wrote:
Joe wrote:
Too bad it was not made of steel!


If it had been steel, it would not have made 1/10th the
cruises it did, because it would be too heavy to trailer so
easily.

DSK


BULL Feathers!
Steel is stronger per pound than fiberglass.

Joe
Your words are faint, your brow is cold,
Your looks grow sudden gray and old,
The lights burn dim, the casements shake,--
Ah, stay a little, for my sake!


Joe September 6th 06 02:35 AM

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Gilligan wrote:
"DSK" wrote in message
...
Joe wrote:
Too bad it was not made of steel!


If it had been steel, it would not have made 1/10th the cruises it did,
because it would be too heavy to trailer so easily.

DSK


If it were steel you could have welded wheels on to it to save weight by
eliminating the trailer.


Genious!

Joe
Too late! Too late! The vow you said
This many a year is cold and dead,
And through that darkness, grim and black,
I shall but follow on its track.


Scotty September 6th 06 04:17 AM

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Destroyed? What's the damage report? Was it in the water
at the time? No one aboard, I presume?


SBV



"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Well, I just got a phone call earlier tonight from the man
who bought our Hunter 19 a few years ago. The boat was hit
by lightning this afternoon and is destroyed.

It's really a shame, a lot of miles of water (and highway)
passed under that boat. We enjoyed it tremendously as did

he
& his family.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King




Scotty September 6th 06 04:27 AM

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"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...

DSK wrote:
Well, I just got a phone call earlier tonight from the

man
who bought our Hunter 19 a few years ago. The boat was

hit
by lightning this afternoon and is destroyed.

It's really a shame, a lot of miles of water (and

highway)
passed under that boat. We enjoyed it tremendously as

did he
& his family.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Too bad it was not made of steel!



yulp!

Scotty
It's better to burn out
Cause rust never sleeps
The King is gone but he's not forgotten



Joe September 6th 06 04:51 AM

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katy wrote:
DSK wrote:
Well, I just got a phone call earlier tonight from the man who bought
our Hunter 19 a few years ago. The boat was hit by lightning this
afternoon and is destroyed.

It's really a shame, a lot of miles of water (and highway) passed under
that boat. We enjoyed it tremendously as did he & his family.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

ouch....ot's bad news...funny how attached you stay to your former
vessels...


Hi Katy!

Joe


Joe September 6th 06 04:58 AM

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Scotty wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...

DSK wrote:
Well, I just got a phone call earlier tonight from the

man
who bought our Hunter 19 a few years ago. The boat was

hit
by lightning this afternoon and is destroyed.

It's really a shame, a lot of miles of water (and

highway)
passed under that boat. We enjoyed it tremendously as

did he
& his family.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Too bad it was not made of steel!



yulp!

Scotty
It's better to burn out
Cause rust never sleeps
The King is gone but he's not forgotten


When that yankee punk N young talked about rust he was talking about
shooting up herion.

Neal is a chump, even thou he paid me 25K in 2001, a southern man
dont need him anyhow. He's history.

Joe


DSK September 6th 06 12:15 PM

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If it had been steel, it would not have made 1/10th the cruises it did,
because it would be too heavy to trailer so easily.



Gilligan wrote:
If it were steel you could have welded wheels on to it to save weight by
eliminating the trailer.



Wheels? We don' need no steenkeeng WHEELS!
http://www.mciwest.usmc.mil/images/amphib.jpg

DSK


DSK September 6th 06 12:21 PM

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Scotty wrote:
Destroyed? What's the damage report? Was it in the water
at the time? No one aboard, I presume?


Yes, in the water, nobody on board. He said it was like a
stick of dynamite went off inside the boat. The hull is
cracked open all the way around, hatches blown off, wiring
burnt to a crisp.

The mast was grounded to the centerboard pivot, I wondered
if the lightning bolt flashed the water ballast tank to
steam but he said the ballast tank appeared intact.

There will probably be pictures of it, along with the story,
in the next Boat U.S. magazine.

It's really a shame since these folk got as much out of the
boat, or more, than we did. They have two small children
both of whom have learned to sail and can skipper their
'Conchita.' They moved up to the Hunter 19 from a ComPac 16
and thought it was like an ocean liner!

DSK



Capt. Rob September 6th 06 12:36 PM

Sad end of a good little boat
 

Well, I just got a phone call earlier tonight from the man
who bought our Hunter 19 a few years ago. The boat was hit
by lightning this afternoon and is destroyed.



1st of all, the Hunter 19 is not a "good little boat" by any stretch
regardless of how it was used. Doug himself said he'd probably have
kept looking had he known more about the boat shabby build. BTW, can we
also ask Doug how often he sailed a Hunter 19 before he bought one? The
only other owner I've spoken to claimed that the thing sailed like a
sponge soaked in syrup.
The Hunter 19 is a slow sailing design that is so awful to look at that
no one with any self respect would even be seen on one. A boat like the
19 is sold on it's practical aspects, which has no place in the heart
of a true sailor.

http://www.sailingtexas.com/pichunter19ca.jpg

Was there any doubt that Doug would end up a powerboater? And that is
indeed what he is now.
Too bad for the second set of suckers. If they had brains then
insurance will help.



RB
35s5
NY


DSK September 6th 06 12:41 PM

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"Capt" Rob wrote:
1st of all, the Hunter 19 is not a "good little boat" by any stretch


Judging by how much sailing it has done, it's a better boat
than any you'v ever owned or ever will.

DSK


Scotty September 6th 06 12:44 PM

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That's a shame. Do you know if he had insurance?

SBV


"DSK" wrote in message
...
Scotty wrote:
Destroyed? What's the damage report? Was it in the

water
at the time? No one aboard, I presume?


Yes, in the water, nobody on board. He said it was like a
stick of dynamite went off inside the boat. The hull is
cracked open all the way around, hatches blown off, wiring
burnt to a crisp.

The mast was grounded to the centerboard pivot, I wondered
if the lightning bolt flashed the water ballast tank to
steam but he said the ballast tank appeared intact.

There will probably be pictures of it, along with the

story,
in the next Boat U.S. magazine.

It's really a shame since these folk got as much out of

the
boat, or more, than we did. They have two small children
both of whom have learned to sail and can skipper their
'Conchita.' They moved up to the Hunter 19 from a ComPac

16
and thought it was like an ocean liner!

DSK





Scotty September 6th 06 12:50 PM

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ps.com...



.
The Hunter 19 is a slow sailing design that is so awful to

look at that
no one with any self respect would even be seen on one.





Do you know how many 19s Hunter has sold?



http://www.sailingtexas.com/pichunter19ca.jpg


Nice looking boat!


Was there any doubt that Doug would end up a powerboater?



Doug has a trawler. He's not a 'powerboater'.

SBV



DSK September 6th 06 01:00 PM

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Scotty wrote:

That's a shame. Do you know if he had insurance?


Yes, and we talked about what it would be worth to keep /
buy back from the ins co. such as the motor, equipment, etc.
It's going to be some loss no matter how he works it.

DSK


Capt. Rob September 6th 06 01:06 PM

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Judging by how much sailing it has done, it's a better boat
than any you'v ever owned or ever will.




Oh, so the King of Keels judges boat quality by how much it is sailed.
That makes every new boat pretty crappy.
This summer we still sailed our 35s5 an average of 3 days a week,
mostly daysails with little Thomas. Was that Hunter 19 used 3 days a
week? Maybe it was used 7 days a week. That would make it well used
junk...but still junk.
How many H19's did you sail before buying it, Doug?


RB
35s5
NY


Capt. Rob September 6th 06 01:09 PM

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Do you know how many 19s Hunter has sold?



Do you know how many Mac26x have sold? Does that make it a good
sailboat or a cleverly marketed item to dupe the unsuspecting buyer.
Why don't you ask Doug about his comments regarding the H19 that he
would not buy if he could do it again.

Hmmmm?


RB
35s5
NY


Capt. Rob September 6th 06 01:10 PM

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Doug has a trawler. He's not a 'powerboater'.



His trawler is a powerboat. It's just a slow one. I sail 3 times a week
on my own vessel and he sails 3 times all season on someone elses boat.
He's a powerboater,


RB
35s5
NY


Frank Boettcher September 6th 06 01:17 PM

Sad end of a good little boat
 
On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 07:15:24 -0400, DSK wrote:

If it had been steel, it would not have made 1/10th the cruises it did,
because it would be too heavy to trailer so easily.



Gilligan wrote:
If it were steel you could have welded wheels on to it to save weight by
eliminating the trailer.



Wheels? We don' need no steenkeeng WHEELS!
http://www.mciwest.usmc.mil/images/amphib.jpg

DSK



Hey, that was my ride! (actually one version earlier)

Frank

Jeff September 6th 06 01:27 PM

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Frank Boettcher wrote:
On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 07:15:24 -0400, DSK wrote:

If it had been steel, it would not have made 1/10th the cruises it did,
because it would be too heavy to trailer so easily.

Gilligan wrote:
If it were steel you could have welded wheels on to it to save weight by
eliminating the trailer.


Wheels? We don' need no steenkeeng WHEELS!
http://www.mciwest.usmc.mil/images/amphib.jpg

DSK



Hey, that was my ride! (actually one version earlier)

Frank

Kewl! How much surf can they handle?


Frank Boettcher September 6th 06 02:02 PM

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On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 08:27:29 -0400, Jeff wrote:

Frank Boettcher wrote:
On Wed, 06 Sep 2006 07:15:24 -0400, DSK wrote:

If it had been steel, it would not have made 1/10th the cruises it did,
because it would be too heavy to trailer so easily.

Gilligan wrote:
If it were steel you could have welded wheels on to it to save weight by
eliminating the trailer.


Wheels? We don' need no steenkeeng WHEELS!
http://www.mciwest.usmc.mil/images/amphib.jpg

DSK



Hey, that was my ride! (actually one version earlier)

Frank

Kewl! How much surf can they handle?



Once the tracks hit ground, surf is not an issue. Until then, they
more or less go with the flow.

It is a horrible experience if you are a passenger (infantry) in
swells. No possible way to avoid getting seasick if you have the
tendency. Crew can open the hatches and stick their heads out look
at the horizon and breath fresh air. Passengers cannot.

Most disconcerting time is when launching from a ship. When you go
down the ramp you are temporarily completley submerged. Top cargo
hatches generally leak. Passengers get wet and mull over the laws of
physics that govern buoyancy.

New version (pictured) may be better, they were coming in when I was
getting out.

Frank

Gilligan September 6th 06 02:52 PM

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ps.com...


A boat like the
19 is sold on it's practical aspects, which has no place in the heart
of a true sailor.


You are absolutely correct here Rob, a true sailor is guided by his mind,
not his heart.

Gilligan



Capt. Rob September 6th 06 02:59 PM

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You are absolutely correct here Rob, a true sailor is guided by his
mind,
not his heart.



One might hope you didn't believe this....but I bet you do.
A true sailor is guided by both.


RB
35s5
NY


Gilligan September 6th 06 03:09 PM

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...

You are absolutely correct here Rob, a true sailor is guided by his
mind,
not his heart.



One might hope you didn't believe this....but I bet you do.
A true sailor is guided by both.


I'd rather it was said:

"One might think you didn't believe this...but I bet you do."




Scotty September 6th 06 11:13 PM

Sad end of a good little boat
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...

Do you know how many 19s Hunter has sold?



Do you know how many Mac26x have sold? Does that make it a

good
sailboat or a cleverly marketed item to dupe the

unsuspecting buyer.
Why don't you ask Doug about his comments regarding the

H19 that he
would not buy if he could do it again.



So you don't know, do ya?

SBV



Scotty September 6th 06 11:16 PM

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"DSK" wrote in message
...
Scotty wrote:

That's a shame. Do you know if he had insurance?


Yes, and we talked about what it would be worth to keep /
buy back from the ins co. such as the motor, equipment,

etc.
It's going to be some loss no matter how he works it.



Well, at least it should help some. I never had insurance on
any of my trailerables.

SBV



Scotty September 6th 06 11:18 PM

Sad end of a good little boat
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com..
..
Judging by how much sailing it has done, it's a better

boat
than any you'v ever owned or ever will.




Oh, so the King of Keels judges boat quality by how much

it is sailed.
That makes every new boat pretty crappy.
This summer we still sailed our 35s5 an average of 3 days

a week,
mostly daysails with little Thomas.


Wow, that's 3 miles a week, times 8 weeks (?), woohoo.. ***
24 MILES ****

ZOWEEEE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You *ARE* the MASTER MARINER !!!!!



DSK September 7th 06 01:18 AM

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Hey Bubbles why do you jump into a thread I started, a true
story about a boat my wife & I used to own, and try to turn
into one of your psycho tantrums?


Do you know how many 19s Hunter has sold?


I do. Right about 200... not enough to keep them in
production. However Hunter has made a commitment to the
small boat market which I think is commendable... a
commitment to the whole sport.


"Capt" Rob wrote
Do you know how many Mac26x have sold? Does that make it a

good
sailboat or a cleverly marketed item to dupe the

unsuspecting buyer.


Who says the Mac26X is a bad sailboat? Considering that you
don't know the differences between it and the previous model
Macs, you obviously don't know enough to judge.


Why don't you ask Doug about his comments regarding the

H19 that he
would not buy if he could do it again.



When did I say that? Can you find a quote?



Scotty wrote:
So you don't know, do ya?


Well, no... what did you expect ;)

DSF


JR September 7th 06 08:01 AM

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That's a shame Doug, I use a pic of your boat as a wallpaper/screensaver.
Regards,
JR

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Well, I just got a phone call earlier tonight from the man who bought our
Hunter 19 a few years ago. The boat was hit by lightning this afternoon
and is destroyed.

It's really a shame, a lot of miles of water (and highway) passed under
that boat. We enjoyed it tremendously as did he & his family.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King




DSK September 7th 06 12:47 PM

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JR wrote:

That's a shame Doug, I use a pic of your boat as a wallpaper/screensaver.
Regards,
JR



Thanks for the kind words. I'm a bit surprised that anybody
else would like more than a passing glance at our sailing
pictures.

For some impressive wallpaper how about this?
news://news.bellsouth.net:119/1UPLg....s-preussen.jpg

or
http://tinyurl.com/h5hf5

There is a constant stream of great pictures... photos &
paintings, historical & current... over in
alt.binaries.pictures.tall-ships although there is not as
much of the banter... possibly a good thing sometimes.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Capt. Rob September 7th 06 12:50 PM

Sad end of a good little boat
 

Hey Bubbles why do you jump into a thread I started, a true
story about a boat my wife & I used to own, and try to turn
into one of your psycho tantrums?




Try?




RB
35s5
NY


Lady Pilot September 8th 06 04:10 AM

Sad end of a good little boat
 

"Joe" wrote:
Neal is a chump, even thou he paid me 25K in 2001, a southern man
dont need him anyhow. He's history.


What was the 25K for? Those bails of marijuana in your boat? :-)

LP



Lady Pilot September 8th 06 04:13 AM

Sad end of a good little boat
 

"Joe" wrote:
Hi Katy!


Why are you so nice to Katy? She has always been so mean and ugly to you.
But she is that way to most everyone here, unless you happen to be one of
the sailors she bedded down with...

So far here's the list...

Snotty
Doug King
Maxprop
Seahag

I'm sure this is just a starter list. I wonder if her cuckold husband
watches?

LP




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