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Gilligan September 1st 06 07:53 PM

Low Cavitation 4 Blade Folding Propellers
 
Volvo makes 4 bladed folding propellers:

http://www.great-water.com/pages/pro...lding-prop.htm

High efficiency

Low noise

Low cavitation.

Does MarTec make anything like this?



Capt. JG September 1st 06 08:04 PM

Low Cavitation 4 Blade Folding Propellers
 
My boat has a fixed, two-blade prop. Seems to work fine.

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"Gilligan" wrote in message
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Volvo makes 4 bladed folding propellers:

http://www.great-water.com/pages/pro...lding-prop.htm

High efficiency

Low noise

Low cavitation.

Does MarTec make anything like this?




Paladin September 1st 06 10:58 PM

Low Cavitation 4 Blade Folding Propellers
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message ...
| My boat has a fixed, two-blade prop. Seems to work fine.



It figures you'd be more familiar with the prop than the sails.

Paladin.

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Joe September 1st 06 11:21 PM

Low Cavitation 4 Blade Folding Propellers
 

Paladin wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote in message ...
| My boat has a fixed, two-blade prop. Seems to work fine.



It figures you'd be more familiar with the prop than the sails.

Paladin.

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Teranews? R U a flunker?

I have a 3 blade, fixed 21X21 and it seems to work fine as well.
No cavitation noted.

joe


Paladin September 1st 06 11:31 PM

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"Joe" wrote in message ps.com...
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| Paladin wrote:
| "Capt. JG" wrote in message ...
| | My boat has a fixed, two-blade prop. Seems to work fine.
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| It figures you'd be more familiar with the prop than the sails.
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| Paladin.
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| Teranews? R U a flunker?
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| I have a 3 blade, fixed 21X21 and it seems to work fine as well.
| No cavitation noted.
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| joe
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21 X 21? What are you sailing, a battleship?

Anybody can get a free account at teranews. What's a flunker?

Paladin

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Joe September 1st 06 11:49 PM

Low Cavitation 4 Blade Folding Propellers
 

Paladin wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message ps.com...
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| Paladin wrote:
| "Capt. JG" wrote in message ...
| | My boat has a fixed, two-blade prop. Seems to work fine.
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| It figures you'd be more familiar with the prop than the sails.
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| Paladin.
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| Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| Teranews? R U a flunker?
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| I have a 3 blade, fixed 21X21 and it seems to work fine as well.
| No cavitation noted.
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| joe
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21 X 21? What are you sailing, a battleship?


http://community.webshots.com/photo/...63212926UfyOMU


Anybody can get a free account at teranews. What's a flunker?


you know.

Joe

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Thom Stewart September 2nd 06 12:11 AM

Low Cavitation 4 Blade Folding Propellers
 
Gilly;
You are still leaving the "Useless propeller" header statement
unresolved.

I'm pretty sure they don't have anything to match THAT MONSTROSITY. I
think, not sure, they have a three blade feathering with streamlined
tips.

My 2 Blade folding has streamlined tips and it out-performs my fixed
blade prop in every way but in reverse (But not by very much) I have to
pop it in gear and then Neutral; a couple of times until a gain steerage
and then it equal to the fixed.
BUT__--__
That still doesn't answer the question you created with the "Useless
Propeller" heading. I would truly like to know its short coming or if it
is operators problems

So, please don't change the subject. Give us your reason for calling it
Useless. As you can probably can figure I like my Martec very much.

I don't usually use my engine when the weather acts up. I reef down to a
comfortable ride and control from inside the Pilothouse. I do start the
engine at the outer Harbor marker and drop in into gear at a fast idle.
This is so I can still maintain control as I drop the main into the Lazy
Jacks and furl the head sail.

This was what I did when I had a boat. I would like to warn the new ower
of any problem I'm not aware of

The new owner has both Props but I left the Folder on the shaft and the
fixed in the gear locker.

By the way; There is no way I'd ever recomend that Monstrosity in your
picture. Sail boat Aux. IMHO should be as simple as possible




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Capt. JG September 2nd 06 12:22 AM

Low Cavitation 4 Blade Folding Propellers
 
He's not just an anyone. He's a nobody.

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"Joe" wrote in message
ps.com...

Paladin wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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| My boat has a fixed, two-blade prop. Seems to work fine.



It figures you'd be more familiar with the prop than the sails.

Paladin.

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Teranews? R U a flunker?

I have a 3 blade, fixed 21X21 and it seems to work fine as well.
No cavitation noted.

joe




Gilligan September 2nd 06 04:15 AM

Low Cavitation 4 Blade Folding Propellers
 
http://sites.mercurymarine.com/porta...che ma=PORTAL


Three- vs. Four-blades?

Four blade propellers usually:

a.. Plane the boat faster than 3-blade propellers
b.. Keep the boat on plane at a lower speed
c.. Give improved mid-range speed at the same RPM as a 3-blade propeller
d.. Provide quicker acceleration than most 3-blade propellers
e.. Run smoother than 3-blade propellers
f.. Have better holding power in rough conditions
g.. Are less likely to ventilate in sharp turns
h.. Provide better low speed handling
i.. Are not quite as fast on the top end as a comparable 3-blade propeller


http://www.marinepartsman.com/about-...ousings_1.html

The 4 blade design (stainless steel) is popular with boaters who are looking
for a good hole shot, better acceleration, and better bow lift (higher trim
angle) to reduce boat drag (too much of boat in water- reducing top end
speed). Important: 4 blade designs allow your boat to stay on plane at a
lower rpm, producing a slower cruising speed without loss of plane of the
boat in rough seas and conditions. Renegade props (4 blade) are of an
excellent design -allowing better top end, speed, with minimal drag.

http://www.boatsunlimitedny.com/products/propellers.php

Number of Blades
Some propellers have three blades, while others have four. Which should you
chose? Generally, a 3-blade propeller provides good performance in most
circumstances. A 4-blade propeller, however, can provide better performance
in rough water or with high mounting heights (such as Flats boats). This is
because a 4-blade propeller has more blades to hold the water when air may
be present in the water, which is more common in rough water or with a high
engine mounting height.



San Juan 23:

http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/23..._tips/d06.html



PROPELLER CHOICE - The pitch of the stock propeller for most small 2 cycle
outboards is designed to push a light aluminum fishing boat at planing
speed, not a 1.5 ton displacement sail boat hull at 5 knots. On a planing
hull the engine can rev freely and cool properly pushing a light load within
its designed RPM range. When using the stock propeller to push a
displacement hull like an SJ23, the engine will generally operate in the
bottom half of the RPM or torque range. This overloads the engine resulting
in overheating and accelerated wear. Be very wary of the throttle setting
on your own outboard. Find the setting that produces maximum speed with
minimum throttle. Notice that you can increase the throttle with very
little more speed. To solve this problem you could change from a 2 bladed
propeller to 3 bladed propeller or install a finer pitched propeller,
usually 3 blades. Either change will achieve more push and longer engine
life but with more noise. The fine pitched propeller, especially if it has
three or four blades, is excellent for accelerating, towing, punching into a
current or waves and really comes into its own when backing up or stopping.
These propeller blades are generally round shaped (like a lily pad) versus
the screw shaped propellers designed for speed. It should be noted that a 4
cycle engine generates more torque at a lower RPM than is a 2 cycle engine
and is therefore is a better choice for pushing a displacement hull.

Tested on Beneteau:

http://www.bruntons-propellers.com/a...performance%22










Thom Stewart September 3rd 06 01:10 AM

Low Cavitation 4 Blade Folding Propellers
 





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