Buying another boat today.
 

She looks allot like a P 40. Almost flush decks 40ft sloop, no
windows/ports lovely perfect Aluminum hull (so fair I thought is was
glass. with composite deck, the deck has 3 soft spots. 55 ft main mast,
sails, 2-14" winches, 6 others. Lots of gear adrift. The owner is in
England and can not come back to deal with the boat. As soon as I have
all the details and pictures I will post them here, or a link to the
boat after I put it on e-bay. She's a sleek and sexy racer with room
enough to live aboard.

Getting this gem for 5K. I should make an easy 40K profit without doing
anything but take pictures and list it.

Joe

Buying another boat today.
 

Start thinking about the soft spots on the 'composite' deck, Joe. Could
end up costing you more than you paid for the boat.


"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
She looks allot like a P 40. Almost flush decks 40ft sloop, no
windows/ports lovely perfect Aluminum hull (so fair I thought is was
glass. with composite deck, the deck has 3 soft spots. 55 ft main mast,
sails, 2-14" winches, 6 others. Lots of gear adrift. The owner is in
England and can not come back to deal with the boat. As soon as I have
all the details and pictures I will post them here, or a link to the
boat after I put it on e-bay. She's a sleek and sexy racer with room
enough to live aboard.

Getting this gem for 5K. I should make an easy 40K profit without doing
anything but take pictures and list it.

Joe

Buying another boat today.
 

Start thinking about the soft spots on the 'composite' deck, Joe.
Could
end up costing you more than you paid for the boat.



Joe should make some money, though probably not 40K. Her deck will be
someone elses problem to underestimate.


RB
35s5
NY

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Capt. Rob wrote:
Start thinking about the soft spots on the 'composite' deck, Joe.
Could
end up costing you more than you paid for the boat.



Joe should make some money, though probably not 40K. Her deck will be
someone elses problem to underestimate.

Indeed "AS IS". is how I will sell her.

Still it's a sweet boat, I wonder why they did not install aluminum
decks?

The boat is owned by a guy who crewed for Dennis Conner. (so the rumor
goes)

But the story may be to good to be true. I went to the guy with check
in hand, and he said he had to re-check with the owner in England. That
was two days ago and I have not heard anything back yet.

Joe


RB
35s5
NY

Buying another boat today.
 

"Joe" wrote in message oups.com...
|
| Capt. Rob wrote:
| Start thinking about the soft spots on the 'composite' deck, Joe.
| Could
| end up costing you more than you paid for the boat.
|
|
|
| Joe should make some money, though probably not 40K. Her deck will be
| someone elses problem to underestimate.
|
| Indeed "AS IS". is how I will sell her.
|
| Still it's a sweet boat, I wonder why they did not install aluminum
| decks?

Bad idea to install aluminum decks. It's an issue with hardware. Unless
one uses aluminum fittings (mostly must be custom-made) there will
be severe electrolysis problems between fittings and the aluminum
surface. Composite decks are the way to go but cored composite consisting
of wood (ply or balas) is liable to rot if any water finds its way in.
Better to use some sort of plastic coring such as Kledgecell or foam
coring.

A good article about coring he
http://www.yachtsurvey.com/core_materials.htm

Paladin

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Beware of people who offer to sell boats where the owner lives in another
country. Give him your check and you may find this 'intermediary' disappears
without trace with your money and you never get title to the boat.

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

Capt. Rob wrote:
Start thinking about the soft spots on the 'composite' deck, Joe.
Could
end up costing you more than you paid for the boat.



Joe should make some money, though probably not 40K. Her deck will be
someone elses problem to underestimate.

Indeed "AS IS". is how I will sell her.

Still it's a sweet boat, I wonder why they did not install aluminum
decks?

The boat is owned by a guy who crewed for Dennis Conner. (so the rumor
goes)

But the story may be to good to be true. I went to the guy with check
in hand, and he said he had to re-check with the owner in England. That
was two days ago and I have not heard anything back yet.

Joe


RB
35s5
NY

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"Edgar" wrote in message ...
| Beware of people who offer to sell boats where the owner lives in another
| country. Give him your check and you may find this 'intermediary' disappears
| without trace with your money and you never get title to the boat.
|

Good advice but I doubt Joe is that dumb. I'm sure he wouldn't hand over a check without papers
and boat in hand... On the other hand, it's unlikely Joe's check are written on a valid account in
the first place.

Paladin







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Edgar wrote:
Beware of people who offer to sell boats where the owner lives in another
country. Give him your check and you may find this 'intermediary' disappears
without trace with your money and you never get title to the boat.

The middle man has had a boat repair biz here in the marina for about
5 yrs now, I do not think he will dis-appear. More likely to buy the
boat himself, or try to add on an extra 5-10 K for the phone call. If
so I'll let him keep it. The owner has him watching the boat, and since
i stirred up interest... he might move to buy it himself since he will
not get paid to babysit anymore.

Joe




"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

Capt. Rob wrote:
Start thinking about the soft spots on the 'composite' deck, Joe.
Could
end up costing you more than you paid for the boat.



Joe should make some money, though probably not 40K. Her deck will be
someone elses problem to underestimate.

Indeed "AS IS". is how I will sell her.

Still it's a sweet boat, I wonder why they did not install aluminum
decks?

The boat is owned by a guy who crewed for Dennis Conner. (so the rumor
goes)

But the story may be to good to be true. I went to the guy with check
in hand, and he said he had to re-check with the owner in England. That
was two days ago and I have not heard anything back yet.

Joe


RB
35s5
NY

Buying another boat today.
 

Paladin wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message oups.com...
|
| Capt. Rob wrote:
| Start thinking about the soft spots on the 'composite' deck, Joe.
| Could
| end up costing you more than you paid for the boat.
|
|
|
| Joe should make some money, though probably not 40K. Her deck will be
| someone elses problem to underestimate.
|
| Indeed "AS IS". is how I will sell her.
|
| Still it's a sweet boat, I wonder why they did not install aluminum
| decks?

Bad idea to install aluminum decks.

Ah. That would explain why the vast majority of aluminium hulled boats
have aluminium decks.

It's an issue with hardware. Unless
one uses aluminum fittings (mostly must be custom-made) there will
be severe electrolysis problems between fittings and the aluminum
surface.

Not necessarily. But then I have 2 big Al workboats, so I have
practical experience. You have Google.

Composite decks are the way to go but cored composite consisting
of wood (ply or balas) is liable to rot if any water finds its way in.
Better to use some sort of plastic coring such as Kledgecell or foam
coring.

Composite decks on a metal hull are going to be a disaster where the 2
materials meet. The coefficient of expansion of Al is high. You'd
better buy bulk lots of Sikaflex or 5200. Even then the hull-deck joint
is never going to be as strong & waterproof as a metal to metal weld.

Not to mention that if you're worried about electrolysis on an Al deck
causing problems, what do you think tons of bolt & screw holes into the
composite deck are going to cause? Oh yeah, water entry and rot.
Duuuuuuh.

PDW

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"Peter" wrote in message ups.com...
|
| Paladin wrote:
| "Joe" wrote in message oups.com...
| |
| | Capt. Rob wrote:
| | Start thinking about the soft spots on the 'composite' deck, Joe.
| | Could
| | end up costing you more than you paid for the boat.
| |
| |
| |
| | Joe should make some money, though probably not 40K. Her deck will be
| | someone elses problem to underestimate.
| |
| | Indeed "AS IS". is how I will sell her.
| |
| | Still it's a sweet boat, I wonder why they did not install aluminum
| | decks?
|
| Bad idea to install aluminum decks.
|
| Ah. That would explain why the vast majority of aluminium hulled boats
| have aluminium decks.
|
| It's an issue with hardware. Unless
| one uses aluminum fittings (mostly must be custom-made) there will
| be severe electrolysis problems between fittings and the aluminum
| surface.
|
| Not necessarily. But then I have 2 big Al workboats, so I have
| practical experience. You have Google.
|
| Composite decks are the way to go but cored composite consisting
| of wood (ply or balas) is liable to rot if any water finds its way in.
| Better to use some sort of plastic coring such as Kledgecell or foam
| coring.
|
| Composite decks on a metal hull are going to be a disaster where the 2
| materials meet. The coefficient of expansion of Al is high. You'd
| better buy bulk lots of Sikaflex or 5200. Even then the hull-deck joint
| is never going to be as strong & waterproof as a metal to metal weld.
|
| Not to mention that if you're worried about electrolysis on an Al deck
| causing problems, what do you think tons of bolt & screw holes into the
| composite deck are going to cause? Oh yeah, water entry and rot.
| Duuuuuuh.
|
| PDW

C'mon, Peter. We're talking sailboats here. Not workboats. Workboats
have no aesthetic appeal. You can weld all kinds of ugly crap on deck
and nobody's gonna say, "Yuck!!"

It's well known that quality decks on production sailboats use solid
glass in the areas where fittings are placed. These are bedded with
flexible sealant and through bolted tightly with backing plates. Decks
are fitted to hulls in various ways and through bolted and bedded with
3M 5200 for a trouble-free bond. One can bond to metal or fiberglass
with no expansion problems. Remember, we're talking about small
boats here. How much is the expansion differential on a forty footer?

Quality hardware will be stainless steel or bronze. Both of these
are not suitable for bedding to aluminum unless isolated somehow
by heroic means.

Paladin

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