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Capt. Rob August 28th 06 10:52 AM

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Did you perhaps mean to say something like, "he at least had the
preconceived notion that she was a bit tender for her size?"




He felt she WAS tender for her size.


Joe August 28th 06 02:43 PM

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Capt. Rob wrote:
I had hopes that today would be like yesterday....cloudy, cool and
breezy...but we only got the last part. An hour into the sail rain
became steady and pretty annoying. I still love the sound of the rain
on the water and we were sailing beautifully, but no fun for Thomas
below decks for most of it, so we came back fast.


Yeah it sucks to have to sit out in foul weather.
I too love sailing in the rain, cleans the sails nicely.
http://image59.webshots.com/59/5/21/...6bvRvvN_fs.jpg

To bad you can not enjoy a sail in a heavy rain, Thomas would love
sitting on my dash and watching the lighting and squalls, and water
spouts. Good thing is keeping him below will surely help him develope a
sence of balance and cause his inner ears to adjust and mature faster.
He will be immune to sea-sickness all his life.

Joe



We were the only
sailboat out. When we got back I finally hooked up the wireless laptop
and tomorrow will mount our new gear.
Ah well. This should all clear out by Wednesday....and we'll sail every
day there's wind!

Hope you all are getting in some sailing!


RB
35s5
NY



Paladin August 28th 06 07:45 PM

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com...
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| Did you perhaps mean to say something like, "he at least had the
| preconceived notion that she was a bit tender for her size?"
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|
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| He felt she WAS tender for her size.
|

She pretty well must be tender but not because of her size but because
of her ballast/disp. ratio. But, hull form can go a long way towards
disguising tenderness. If she has slack bilges she'll show her
tender nature but if her bilges are well-rounded she will stand up
much better initially because of the leverage factor of the hull on
the keel or better stated the leverage factor of the keel on the hull.

The Beneteaus I've seen in the yards look like they have wide, rounded
hull forms.

Paladin

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Capt. Rob August 28th 06 08:14 PM

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The Beneteaus I've seen in the yards look like they have wide, rounded
hull forms.




Here's a few views of Heart of Gold's bottom.....


http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/bottom.jpg
http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/blift.jpg



RB
35s5
NY


Paladin August 28th 06 08:25 PM

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com...
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| The Beneteaus I've seen in the yards look like they have wide, rounded
| hull forms.
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|
|
|
| Here's a few views of Heart of Gold's bottom.....
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| http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/bottom.jpg
| http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/blift.jpg
|


Thanks, No slack bilges there for sure. Picture her heeling and note how the
bottom profile tends to magnify the weight centered low in the keel because
of the leverage factor. A good fast design with minimal wetted surface.

Those little wings are well designed and well placed (aft) and will help control
the tip vortex to minimize drag from keel end turbulence. The rudder is also
state of the art elliptical.

Paladin


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Gilligan August 29th 06 01:25 AM

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"Paladin" noneofyourbusiness.www wrote in message
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Those little wings are well designed and well placed (aft) and will help
control
the tip vortex to minimize drag from keel end turbulence.


Those little wings actually increase turbulence and drag.



Gilligan August 29th 06 01:30 AM

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"Paladin" noneofyourbusiness.www wrote in message
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The rudder is also
state of the art elliptical.



http://www.tspeer.com/Planforms/Planforms.html



Bob Crantz August 29th 06 03:11 AM

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"Gilligan" wrote in message
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"Paladin" noneofyourbusiness.www wrote in message
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The rudder is also
state of the art elliptical.



http://www.tspeer.com/Planforms/Planforms.html


One must remember that RB's boat was designed over 20 years ago when disco
was king and the science of computational hydrodynamics was sorely lacking
due to limited computational means available to designers. RB's yacht was
designed by rules of thumb, a little trial and error and almost no
optimization. Computer power was highly inadequate in the mid-80's and stone
age-like compared to the computation power available today. Think of pac-man
back then and X-Box today. Rob's yacht, though it may have a few good
points, is of Pac-Man technology. Today's performance sailboat designs will
run circles around his boat designed in the era of donkey kong platform
shoes.

Amen!



Paladin August 29th 06 03:02 PM

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"Bob Crantz" wrote in message . ..
|
| "Gilligan" wrote in message
| . ..
|
| "Paladin" noneofyourbusiness.www wrote in message
| ...
|
| The rudder is also
| state of the art elliptical.
|
|
|
| http://www.tspeer.com/Planforms/Planforms.html
|
|
| One must remember that RB's boat was designed over 20 years ago when disco
| was king and the science of computational hydrodynamics was sorely lacking
| due to limited computational means available to designers. RB's yacht was
| designed by rules of thumb, a little trial and error and almost no
| optimization. Computer power was highly inadequate in the mid-80's and stone
| age-like compared to the computation power available today. Think of pac-man
| back then and X-Box today. Rob's yacht, though it may have a few good
| points, is of Pac-Man technology. Today's performance sailboat designs will
| run circles around his boat designed in the era of donkey kong platform
| shoes.
|
| Amen!


I can tell that Crantz and Gilligan are both jealous of Capt. Rob's fine
vessel.

It will be the lava lakes for you both if you do not repent of your
coveting.

Amen and Praise.

Paladin

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Bob Crantz August 29th 06 03:31 PM

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"Paladin" noneofyourbusiness.www wrote in message
...

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
. ..
|
| "Gilligan" wrote in message
| . ..
|
| "Paladin" noneofyourbusiness.www wrote in message
| ...
|
| The rudder is also
| state of the art elliptical.
|
|
|
| http://www.tspeer.com/Planforms/Planforms.html
|
|
| One must remember that RB's boat was designed over 20 years ago when
disco
| was king and the science of computational hydrodynamics was sorely
lacking
| due to limited computational means available to designers. RB's yacht
was
| designed by rules of thumb, a little trial and error and almost no
| optimization. Computer power was highly inadequate in the mid-80's and
stone
| age-like compared to the computation power available today. Think of
pac-man
| back then and X-Box today. Rob's yacht, though it may have a few good
| points, is of Pac-Man technology. Today's performance sailboat designs
will
| run circles around his boat designed in the era of donkey kong platform
| shoes.
|
| Amen!


I can tell that Crantz and Gilligan are both jealous of Capt. Rob's fine
vessel.

It will be the lava lakes for you both if you do not repent of your
coveting.

Amen and Praise.

Paladin

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Rest assured I am not capable of jealousy for I own a fine blue water
cruiser with a large, spacious oversize cockpit. More importantly, the fine
vessel is colored yellow!

Glory!!




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