Hey, Ringmaster....
 

Can you explain why Mistral, a Beneteau 35s5 has the following race
record?

Overall Winner of SE Florida PHRF Championship series 2002
Overall Winner, Regatta Time in Abacos 2003
Overall Winner, Hospice Regatta 2002
Numerous 1st place trophies in Biscayne Bay Yacht Racing Association
races and regattas, second overall 2003
Third place trophy at Key West Race Week 2003

She's a part time raced boat and has beaten your beloved Express 35
boat for boat. How could this happen?



RB
35s5
NY

Hey, Ringmaster....
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote:

Can you explain why Mistral, a Beneteau 35s5 has the following race
record?

Overall Winner of SE Florida PHRF Championship series 2002
Overall Winner, Regatta Time in Abacos 2003
Overall Winner, Hospice Regatta 2002
Numerous 1st place trophies in Biscayne Bay Yacht Racing Association
races and regattas, second overall 2003
Third place trophy at Key West Race Week 2003

She's a part time raced boat and has beaten your beloved Express 35
boat for boat. How could this happen?

RB
35s5
NY



Five letters Bob: PHRF C

Know what the "C" means?

Cheers
Marty

Hey, Ringmaster....
 

Know what the "C" means?




Yep, but it doesn't mean a 35s5 should be able to beat a Express 35
boat for boat. Can you explain that for us, Marty?
BTW, did you look to see if all the races were PHRF C??? Hmmm?

Uh oh! There's life in this old troll yet!!!



RB
35s5
NY

Hey, Ringmaster....
 

I thought you were going to say a decent skipper and crew.... :-)

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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
"Capt. Rob" wrote:

Can you explain why Mistral, a Beneteau 35s5 has the following race
record?

Overall Winner of SE Florida PHRF Championship series 2002
Overall Winner, Regatta Time in Abacos 2003
Overall Winner, Hospice Regatta 2002
Numerous 1st place trophies in Biscayne Bay Yacht Racing Association
races and regattas, second overall 2003
Third place trophy at Key West Race Week 2003

She's a part time raced boat and has beaten your beloved Express 35
boat for boat. How could this happen?

RB
35s5
NY



Five letters Bob: PHRF C

Know what the "C" means?

Cheers
Marty

Hey, Ringmaster....
 

On 21 Aug 2006 09:18:43 -0700, "Capt. Rob" wrote:

Can you explain why Mistral, a Beneteau 35s5 has the following race
record?

Overall Winner, Regatta Time in Abacos 2003........


Only crew able to say sober the entire series?

Frank




RB
35s5
NY

Hey, Ringmaster....
 

Martin Baxter wrote:
"Capt. Rob" wrote:
Can you explain why Mistral, a Beneteau 35s5 has the following race
record?

Overall Winner of SE Florida PHRF Championship series 2002
Overall Winner, Regatta Time in Abacos 2003
Overall Winner, Hospice Regatta 2002
Numerous 1st place trophies in Biscayne Bay Yacht Racing Association
races and regattas, second overall 2003
Third place trophy at Key West Race Week 2003

She's a part time raced boat and has beaten your beloved Express 35
boat for boat. How could this happen?

RB
35s5
NY



Five letters Bob: PHRF C

Know what the "C" means?

Has anyone else noticed that almost every 35s5 victory that RB cites
is actually the same boat and skipper. No doubt he is a talented
skipper and has a good crew. In addition, I've seen this boat
showcased by a major rigger as being completely tricked out. This
doesn't imply that it the Bene is a great boat, it implies that a
talented skipper with deep pockets can beat his rating.

Jeff
aboard Loki, Hadley's Harbor

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Hey, Ringmaster....
 

In addition, I've seen this boat
showcased by a major rigger as being completely tricked out.


LOL! That boat is for sale at 67.5K and has a set of UK sails and a
radar arch. That's soooo tricked out! Here's the details....

4 ft wheel helm on pedestal with auto pilot and cruising spade rudder
Leaf batten dacron main and 2006 135% genoa with foam luff for reefing
on Harken system, Beneteau emblem Gennaker, 1.5 oz spin, storm main and
storm jib
Radar arch with wind generator and solar panel
SSB radio and backstay antenna
Cockpit bimini, dodger, hatch screen, cloth window and instrument
covers
Single handedly cruised throughout the Bahamas, Puerto Rico, and Lesser
Antilles between 1999 and 2001.
Tell us, Jeff, is it the SSB that gives her the edge?
Jeff, there was a very tricked out boat I listed with many wins in
Europe, and no one even noticed. Then again, boats around here that win
tend have better newer gear as well.



RB
35s5
NY

Hey, Ringmaster....
 

What is the name of the boat.

You could be talking about two different ones.

I believe Jeff anyway.

Hey, Ringmaster....
 

Doesn't sound like the same boat. The "Mistral" I saw was on the
cover of the rigger's catalog with a long list of racing enhancements.
It sounds like you're very confused. Perhaps Setzer has an older
cruising boat he's unloading.

I don't have the bandwidth on the boat to track down the reference for
you. I'll leave that to a landlubber.

BTW, are you claiming that the best racers prefer the 4 foot wheel?

Jeff, on board Loki, Hadley's Harbor

PS for DSK: I'm on a mooring next to a Herreshoff S-Boat. Pics to follow.


Capt. Rob wrote:
In addition, I've seen this boat
showcased by a major rigger as being completely tricked out.


LOL! That boat is for sale at 67.5K and has a set of UK sails and a
radar arch. That's soooo tricked out! Here's the details....

4 ft wheel helm on pedestal with auto pilot and cruising spade rudder
Leaf batten dacron main and 2006 135% genoa with foam luff for reefing
on Harken system, Beneteau emblem Gennaker, 1.5 oz spin, storm main and
storm jib
Radar arch with wind generator and solar panel
SSB radio and backstay antenna
Cockpit bimini, dodger, hatch screen, cloth window and instrument
covers
Single handedly cruised throughout the Bahamas, Puerto Rico, and Lesser
Antilles between 1999 and 2001.
Tell us, Jeff, is it the SSB that gives her the edge?
Jeff, there was a very tricked out boat I listed with many wins in
Europe, and no one even noticed. Then again, boats around here that win
tend have better newer gear as well.



RB
35s5
NY


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Hey, Ringmaster....
 

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
...
What is the name of the boat.

You could be talking about two different ones.

I believe Jeff anyway.


must be different boats, why would Bob lie?

Scotty

Hey, Ringmaster....
 

Doesn't sound like the same boat. The "Mistral" I saw was on the
cover of the rigger's catalog with a long list of racing enhancements.
It sounds like you're very confused.




The info I posted was right from his e-mail sent to me last week. He
doesn't even have an upgraded backstay adjuster, which is a basic
upgrade.

Maybe you mean this boat, which is indeed a winning boat with heavy
upgrades...?

http://www.somersetsails.com/sails/Beneteau__35S5.jpg

There is also a very tricked out 35s5 that recently took a lot of
silver in the UK. The only thing I see tricked out about Mistral is her
UK sails she races with.
In any case, I've listed a bunch of 35s5's that win. I bet most have
good gear and sails...kinda makes sense. If you want to win with crappy
sails and gear, buy a Catalina 30.


RB
35s5
NY

Hey, Ringmaster....
 

Jeff, this 35s5 is tricked out:

Final Race results: Eric Blanckaert gains Quadrasolo the Atlantic 2005
Eric Blanckaert on board his First 35s5 Lainé Undertaken signed last
weekend his first victory in Quadrasolo. A beautiful reward this
customer faithful of our sail making which, hitherto, had often trusté
the places of honor but had ever triumphed in the test.

Foto of winner
http://nsweb.itinfo.dk/nspublish/upl.../Boat_35s5.jpg

From what I understand he faired the keel and runs with the very best
gear and sails. And he wins.
This really worries you? Dude, I don't even race. The rat poison is for
Sloco! Shhh! Here he comes!


RB
35s5
NY

Hey, Ringmaster....
 

Bob, you need to post some of your own winnings, that will
shut up all these doubting Thomas's.

Scotty


"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ps.com...

Doesn't sound like the same boat. The "Mistral" I saw was
on the
cover of the rigger's catalog with a long list of racing
enhancements.
It sounds like you're very confused.




The info I posted was right from his e-mail sent to me
last week. He
doesn't even have an upgraded backstay adjuster, which is
a basic
upgrade.

Maybe you mean this boat, which is indeed a winning boat
with heavy
upgrades...?

http://www.somersetsails.com/sails/Beneteau__35S5.jpg

There is also a very tricked out 35s5 that recently took a
lot of
silver in the UK. The only thing I see tricked out about
Mistral is her
UK sails she races with.
In any case, I've listed a bunch of 35s5's that win. I bet
most have
good gear and sails...kinda makes sense. If you want to
win with crappy
sails and gear, buy a Catalina 30.


RB
35s5
NY

Hey, Ringmaster....
 

Bob, you need to post some of your own winnings, that will
shut up all these doubting Thomas's.


I need to trick out the boat first! I'm adding a spoiler and ground
effects.


RB
35s5
NY

Hey, Ringmaster....
 

"Capt" Rob wrote:
Can you explain why Mistral, a Beneteau 35s5 has the following race
record?


Overall Winner, Regatta Time in Abacos 2003........



Frank Boettcher wrote:
Only crew able to say sober the entire series?


Or maybe they weren't half-crippled from riding scooters all
over the island the day before the race

DSK

Hey, Ringmaster....
 

Only crew able to say sober the entire series?




I wonder how drunk Doug was when his wife wrote out a check for a
trawler.



RB
35s5
NY

Hey, Ringmaster....
 

Martin Baxter wrote:
Five letters Bob: PHRF C

Know what the "C" means?


I don't think the Boobster knows what PHRF is. He clearly
has no concept of handicap racing since he keeps referring
to "boat-for-boat." Maybe he thinks it's just a generic
macho phrase?


Jeff wrote:
Has anyone else noticed that almost every 35s5 victory that RB cites is
actually the same boat and skipper.

Never cared enough to notice, frankly. The guy who owned the
Beneteau 35s5 in our marina took very good care of the boat,
and is a good sailor, but wasn't interested in racing. They
have a Jeanneau now and say it's a much better boat in every
way.



BTW, are you claiming that the best racers prefer the 4 foot wheel?


Most racers that have a lick of sense prefer a tiller,
unless they're yuppy J-105 drivers.

PS for DSK: I'm on a mooring next to a Herreshoff S-Boat. Pics to follow.


Cool! Looking forward to the pics, I like Hadley's Harbor...
is the fleet of gaff rigged H-12s still there? I bet it's
crowded this time of year.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Hey, Ringmaster....
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...

Bob, you need to post some of your own winnings, that will
shut up all these doubting Thomas's.


I need to trick out the boat first! I'm adding a spoiler
and ground
effects.


Those are all well and good, but might I suggest you hire a
Skipper.
Someone with skills on par with Doug.

Scotty

Hey, Ringmaster....
 

http://www.somersetsails.com/sails/Beneteau__35S5.jpg

Nutsy,

I see 3 adults in your "So Called;---HUGE COCKPIT" It looks pretty full
to me.

I do see the Helms Man standing behind the Wheel and not on the seat




http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

Hey, Ringmaster....
 

I don't think the Boobster knows what PHRF is. He clearly
has no concept of handicap racing since he keeps referring
to "boat-for-boat."




Doug, who's never even owned a nice cruising sailboat like my 35s5 or
C&C 32 is now....

The King of PHRF!!!!!

Bow down, mere mortals!!!! Doug thinks "boat fo boat" is a strict PHRF
term? Or does it just mean a "slower" 35s5 beat an Express 35 across
the finish, and not just in adjusted time????

Doug King of PHRF!!!!!


"PHRF is great fun, but if I don't cross the line first, I still
suspect I lost!"
- Dennis Connor



RB
35s5
NY

Hey, Ringmaster....
 

http://nsweb.itinfo.dk/nspublish/upl.../Boat_35s5.jpg

Nutsy,

I notice he is alone in the cockpit and there isn't a Wheel in sight. Is
it because he needed to be free of that Huge Wheel to move around?




http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

Hey, Ringmaster....
 

Dave wrote:
Ever notice how everybody says his current boat is a much better boat than
his last in every way? BS is a classic example.

Of course. If it were not so, nobody would be able to make a
living selling or building boats. So it's not all bad.

Ever notice how when you can't find something, it's always
in the *last* place you look?

DSK

Hey, Ringmaster....
 

Ever notice how when you can't find something, it's always
in the *last* place you look?



I'd keep looking, powerboater Doug!


RB
35s5
NY

Hey, Ringmaster....
 

"DSK" wrote in message
...

Ever notice how when you can't find something, it's always in the *last*
place you look?

Duh.

Max