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I participated in our annual Race for the Dawg from Pt. Campbell at the East
end of Racoon Straight to the Marin Yacht Club (first place is one hotdog to the skipper) fundraising event. We came in 3rd. Which isn't so bad considering we got to the start 15 minutes late. However, boat #2, when finally docked, was approached by the local police boat and cited for not having the proper registration (wrong year and not registered properly, apparently). We pulled up just as the officer was finishing the citation and explaining it to them. So, my question is can I improve my standing in the race? I think they should withdrawn, given that they weren't legal. We ended up joking around with the cop, saying he should check out the winning boat also. I offered him a bribe of one dog to split with his crew, but he declined. Then, he said, maybe he should check all the boats. We left quietly. :-) What do you think? Should #2 withdraw? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... I participated in our annual Race for the Dawg from Pt. Campbell at the East end of Racoon Straight to the Marin Yacht Club (first place is one hotdog to the skipper) fundraising event. We came in 3rd. Which isn't so bad considering we got to the start 15 minutes late. However, boat #2, when finally docked, was approached by the local police boat and cited for not having the proper registration (wrong year and not registered properly, apparently). We pulled up just as the officer was finishing the citation and explaining it to them. So, my question is can I improve my standing in the race? I think they should withdrawn, given that they weren't legal. We ended up joking around with the cop, saying he should check out the winning boat also. I offered him a bribe of one dog to split with his crew, but he declined. Then, he said, maybe he should check all the boats. We left quietly. :-) What do you think? Should #2 withdraw? No! Absolutely knot! Would you really want to place better *that* way? "You haven't won the race if in winning the race, you have lost the respect of your competitors." - Paul Elvstrom, 4-time Olympic Gold Medalist Scotty |
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Of course I would. There's nothing like getting a fellow sailor disqualified
on a technicality. Besides, then I could claim I didn't come in dead last yet again. :-) -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scotty" wrote in message ... "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... I participated in our annual Race for the Dawg from Pt. Campbell at the East end of Racoon Straight to the Marin Yacht Club (first place is one hotdog to the skipper) fundraising event. We came in 3rd. Which isn't so bad considering we got to the start 15 minutes late. However, boat #2, when finally docked, was approached by the local police boat and cited for not having the proper registration (wrong year and not registered properly, apparently). We pulled up just as the officer was finishing the citation and explaining it to them. So, my question is can I improve my standing in the race? I think they should withdrawn, given that they weren't legal. We ended up joking around with the cop, saying he should check out the winning boat also. I offered him a bribe of one dog to split with his crew, but he declined. Then, he said, maybe he should check all the boats. We left quietly. :-) What do you think? Should #2 withdraw? No! Absolutely knot! Would you really want to place better *that* way? "You haven't won the race if in winning the race, you have lost the respect of your competitors." - Paul Elvstrom, 4-time Olympic Gold Medalist Scotty |
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"Capt. JG" wrote...
..... We came in 3rd. Which isn't so bad considering we got to the start 15 minutes late. Yeah, that's not so bad... but it doesn't necessarily mean you'd have won if you'd gotten a good start. Besides, what's your excuse for being late at the start? However, boat #2, when finally docked, was approached by the local police boat and cited for not having the proper registration .... So, my question is can I improve my standing in the race? I think they should withdrawn, given that they weren't legal. You can think that, but it doesn't mean much. I raced for years with a boat that wasn't registered at all... legal in our state, but not in others we travelled to. What do you think? Should #2 withdraw? No. State registration has nothing to do with racing. Scotty wrote: No! Absolutely knot! Would you really want to place better *that* way? Apparently he would. Maybe in that situation, I would too if the trophy were really nice. "You haven't won the race if in winning the race, you have lost the respect of your competitors." - Paul Elvstrom, 4-time Olympic Gold Medalist One of my favorite quotes. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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"DSK" wrote in Apparently he would. Maybe in that situation, I would too if the trophy GIRL were really nice. Oh, yeah! "You haven't won the race if in winning the race, you have lost the respect of your competitors." - Paul Elvstrom, 4-time Olympic Gold Medalist One of my favorite quotes. Mine too. It's on a plaque, hanging at the sailing center. Scotty |
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"You haven't won the race if in winning the race, you
have lost the respect of your competitors." - Paul Elvstrom, 4-time Olympic Gold Medalist One of my favorite quotes. Scotty wrote: Mine too. It's on a plaque, hanging at the sailing center. At Steve's sailing center? Have you sailed their new boat yet? Elvstrom was amazing- he really invented modern sailboat racing, or as my grandad would say, ruined it. Very few people even had the idea of practicing, much less working out new techniques & improving gear. What's more, he went from class to class and country to country to both learn from the best sailors there and to spread his ideas by demonstrating his ability. Buddy Melges is the only American that comes close... and really came along after Elvstrom had already started the revolution. Another awesome sailor who doesn't get as much credit is Jochen Schumann... although as Alinghi's sailing director, one could say he's made his way to the top of the heap at last. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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"DSK" wrote in message .. . "Capt. JG" wrote... ..... We came in 3rd. Which isn't so bad considering we got to the start 15 minutes late. Yeah, that's not so bad... but it doesn't necessarily mean you'd have won if you'd gotten a good start. Besides, what's your excuse for being late at the start? Excuse? I don't need a friggin excuse! (Crew member, not even a woman, needed to use the land toilet, if you can believe it.) However, boat #2, when finally docked, was approached by the local police boat and cited for not having the proper registration .... So, my question is can I improve my standing in the race? I think they should withdrawn, given that they weren't legal. You can think that, but it doesn't mean much. I raced for years with a boat that wasn't registered at all... legal in our state, but not in others we travelled to. What do you think? Should #2 withdraw? No. State registration has nothing to do with racing. Damn. Scotty wrote: No! Absolutely knot! Would you really want to place better *that* way? Apparently he would. Maybe in that situation, I would too if the trophy were really nice. It was a really nice hotdog. "You haven't won the race if in winning the race, you have lost the respect of your competitors." - Paul Elvstrom, 4-time Olympic Gold Medalist One of my favorite quotes. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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Jon,
Why Ask us? If you were legally entered and given a race packet. If current registration was reguired, then the race committee should throw them out, If it wasn't in the Race Packet then they are OK. READ THE PACKET!! http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage |
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None of the below. This isn't a formal race. It was a fundraiser and first
prize was a hotdog. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Jon, Why Ask us? If you were legally entered and given a race packet. If current registration was reguired, then the race committee should throw them out, If it wasn't in the Race Packet then they are OK. READ THE PACKET!! http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage |
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"DSK" wrote in message . .. "You haven't won the race if in winning the race, you have lost the respect of your competitors." - Paul Elvstrom, 4-time Olympic Gold Medalist One of my favorite quotes. Scotty wrote: Mine too. It's on a plaque, hanging at the sailing center. At Steve's sailing center? Have you sailed their new boat yet? yes. No. |
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It isn't a Formal Race? Forget it. Why protest a FUN RACE. Make the
winning Skipper or in you case 2nd place buy you a HOT DAWG and give the money to the FUND. That my friend would make you and your crew a Winner. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage |
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One must protest. I protested last time when one of the opposing skippers
told my crew to put on the small jib before I got to the boat. We were late that year also. Of course, she denies it. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... It isn't a Formal Race? Forget it. Why protest a FUN RACE. Make the winning Skipper or in you case 2nd place buy you a HOT DAWG and give the money to the FUND. That my friend would make you and your crew a Winner. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage |
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Originally I was thinking you were in netkkkop mode again, but further
thought showed otherwise. Those sailors broke the law to get 2nd place. They should withdraw from any standing if they had any moral character. Don't worry if they don't withdraw. There is a special place in hell for lawbreakers like them. Extra crispy too! AMEN! |
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I've never been in netkkkop mode.
I was thinking of hiring a lawyer to present a formal protest. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Bob Crantz" wrote in message ... Originally I was thinking you were in netkkkop mode again, but further thought showed otherwise. Those sailors broke the law to get 2nd place. They should withdraw from any standing if they had any moral character. Don't worry if they don't withdraw. There is a special place in hell for lawbreakers like them. Extra crispy too! AMEN! |
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Report those law breakers to homeland security.
Obvious infiltrators! Amen! "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... I've never been in netkkkop mode. I was thinking of hiring a lawyer to present a formal protest. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Bob Crantz" wrote in message ... Originally I was thinking you were in netkkkop mode again, but further thought showed otherwise. Those sailors broke the law to get 2nd place. They should withdraw from any standing if they had any moral character. Don't worry if they don't withdraw. There is a special place in hell for lawbreakers like them. Extra crispy too! AMEN! |
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Do you think it'll help?
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Bob Crantz" wrote in message . .. Report those law breakers to homeland security. Obvious infiltrators! Amen! "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... I've never been in netkkkop mode. I was thinking of hiring a lawyer to present a formal protest. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Bob Crantz" wrote in message ... Originally I was thinking you were in netkkkop mode again, but further thought showed otherwise. Those sailors broke the law to get 2nd place. They should withdraw from any standing if they had any moral character. Don't worry if they don't withdraw. There is a special place in hell for lawbreakers like them. Extra crispy too! AMEN! |
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"Bob Crantz" wrote Those sailors broke the law to get 2nd place. They should withdraw from any standing if they had any moral character. Laws were made to be broken. SV |
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Only if Dick Cheney gets on the case.
"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Do you think it'll help? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Bob Crantz" wrote in message . .. Report those law breakers to homeland security. Obvious infiltrators! Amen! "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... I've never been in netkkkop mode. I was thinking of hiring a lawyer to present a formal protest. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Bob Crantz" wrote in message ... Originally I was thinking you were in netkkkop mode again, but further thought showed otherwise. Those sailors broke the law to get 2nd place. They should withdraw from any standing if they had any moral character. Don't worry if they don't withdraw. There is a special place in hell for lawbreakers like them. Extra crispy too! AMEN! |
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I actually know a Federal prosecuter based in Texas quite well. We went to
high school together. Perhaps he would be willing to help. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Bob Crantz" wrote in message ... Only if Dick Cheney gets on the case. "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Do you think it'll help? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Bob Crantz" wrote in message . .. Report those law breakers to homeland security. Obvious infiltrators! Amen! "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... I've never been in netkkkop mode. I was thinking of hiring a lawyer to present a formal protest. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Bob Crantz" wrote in message ... Originally I was thinking you were in netkkkop mode again, but further thought showed otherwise. Those sailors broke the law to get 2nd place. They should withdraw from any standing if they had any moral character. Don't worry if they don't withdraw. There is a special place in hell for lawbreakers like them. Extra crispy too! AMEN! |
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Capt. JG wrote: What do you think? Should #2 withdraw? Hell no, if a cop tried that crap at a regetta here he would be swimming for his life. At the harvest moon, if the mayor dont show up to welcome us he is in deep ****! Over 250 boats bring lots of money to the locals in a normally off month. If they set up a chicken **** speed trap tactics they would move to the finish line to a friendly town to celebrate and spend money. Joe -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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It does? Which volume? Are you upset because I went sailing and had a nice
time, joking around with my fellow sailors and the police? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Dave" wrote in message ... On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 10:44:35 -0700, "Capt. JG" said: What do you think? Should #2 withdraw? The fact that you would even ask the question speaks volumes about you. |
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There are speed traps on the water? I mean I know about the "no wake" and "5
mph" areas, but speed traps? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... Capt. JG wrote: What do you think? Should #2 withdraw? Hell no, if a cop tried that crap at a regetta here he would be swimming for his life. At the harvest moon, if the mayor dont show up to welcome us he is in deep ****! Over 250 boats bring lots of money to the locals in a normally off month. If they set up a chicken **** speed trap tactics they would move to the finish line to a friendly town to celebrate and spend money. Joe -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Capt. JG wrote: There are speed traps on the water? I mean I know about the "no wake" and "5 mph" areas, but speed traps? Speed trap TACTICS Jon. Going to a marina looking for registration violations, at a charity race...chicken **** MFers IMO. You know, a sherrifs dept that lacks fund to fight crime so they find alternative sources of revenue. They spend time in marinas looking for expired stickers instead of shutting down the local meth labs, or deterring crime. Joe |
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"Joe" wrote in message ups.com... Capt. JG wrote: There are speed traps on the water? I mean I know about the "no wake" and "5 mph" areas, but speed traps? Speed trap TACTICS Jon. Going to a marina looking for registration violations, at a charity race...chicken **** MFers IMO. You know, a sherrifs dept that lacks fund to fight crime so they find alternative sources of revenue. They spend time in marinas looking for expired stickers instead of shutting down the local meth labs, or deterring crime. Joe Joe, Enforcing the little things reduces crime on a greater level. Rudy Gulliani used this method in NYC and it worked great. I hope the police throw those sticker voilaters in jail! You should be thrown in jail too! Amen! |
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Actually, they were sitting at the dock when #2 showed up. I can't blame
them. It was actually pretty funny, except for the fix-it ticket. I think they were eating lunch. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... Capt. JG wrote: There are speed traps on the water? I mean I know about the "no wake" and "5 mph" areas, but speed traps? Speed trap TACTICS Jon. Going to a marina looking for registration violations, at a charity race...chicken **** MFers IMO. You know, a sherrifs dept that lacks fund to fight crime so they find alternative sources of revenue. They spend time in marinas looking for expired stickers instead of shutting down the local meth labs, or deterring crime. Joe |
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Amazingly, this is actually true. It really does work.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Bob Crantz" wrote in message ... "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... Capt. JG wrote: There are speed traps on the water? I mean I know about the "no wake" and "5 mph" areas, but speed traps? Speed trap TACTICS Jon. Going to a marina looking for registration violations, at a charity race...chicken **** MFers IMO. You know, a sherrifs dept that lacks fund to fight crime so they find alternative sources of revenue. They spend time in marinas looking for expired stickers instead of shutting down the local meth labs, or deterring crime. Joe Joe, Enforcing the little things reduces crime on a greater level. Rudy Gulliani used this method in NYC and it worked great. I hope the police throw those sticker voilaters in jail! You should be thrown in jail too! Amen! |
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Are you upset because I went sailing and had a nice time, joking around with
my fellow sailors and the police? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Dave" wrote in message ... On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 10:49:45 -0700, "Capt. JG" said: It does? Which volume? Yes. You seem to be the only one here who can't figure that out. |
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"Bob Crantz" wrote in message ... "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... Capt. JG wrote: There are speed traps on the water? I mean I know about the "no wake" and "5 mph" areas, but speed traps? Speed trap TACTICS Jon. Going to a marina looking for registration violations, at a charity race...chicken **** MFers IMO. You know, a sherrifs dept that lacks fund to fight crime so they find alternative sources of revenue. They spend time in marinas looking for expired stickers instead of shutting down the local meth labs, or deterring crime. Joe Joe, Enforcing the little things reduces crime on a greater level. Rudy Gulliani used this method in NYC and it worked great. I hope the police throw those sticker voilaters in jail! Get tuff on jaywalkers and the rape rate will decrease? |
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Read my link below Herr Scotty.
A very succesful system implemented by Republicans! |
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"Bob Crantz" wrote in message . .. Read my link below Herr Scotty. ??? Verbindung, ich sehen keine Verbindung, mein guter Freund. Scotty |
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You seem upset to me. I was joking around with fellow sailors, while you
tried to put me down. That indicates to me that you're upset with me or at least upset with something. To answer your question, no, I didn't stop beating my mother because the cops arrived. They like to watch. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Dave" wrote in message ... On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 14:55:41 -0700, "Capt. JG" said: Are you upset because I went sailing and had a nice time, joking around with my fellow sailors and the police? Did you stop beating your mother because the cops arrived? What makes you think I'm upset? Amused, perhaps, but not upset. |
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It sounds strange, but actually it does work like that.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scotty" wrote in message ... "Bob Crantz" wrote in message ... "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... Capt. JG wrote: There are speed traps on the water? I mean I know about the "no wake" and "5 mph" areas, but speed traps? Speed trap TACTICS Jon. Going to a marina looking for registration violations, at a charity race...chicken **** MFers IMO. You know, a sherrifs dept that lacks fund to fight crime so they find alternative sources of revenue. They spend time in marinas looking for expired stickers instead of shutting down the local meth labs, or deterring crime. Joe Joe, Enforcing the little things reduces crime on a greater level. Rudy Gulliani used this method in NYC and it worked great. I hope the police throw those sticker voilaters in jail! Get tuff on jaywalkers and the rape rate will decrease? |
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Scotty wrote: "Bob Crantz" wrote in message . .. Read my link below Herr Scotty. ??? Verbindung, ich sehen keine Verbindung, mein guter Freund. Scotty Guter freund....bwaahahahahahahah scheick Hal der dum kolp...heer Scotty Joe |
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Capt. JG wrote:
One must protest. I protested last time when one of the opposing skippers told my crew to put on the small jib before I got to the boat. We were late that year also. Of course, she denies it. Congratulations on having a crew that is so well trained, she really does believe that size doesn't matter ;) DSK |
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Yes, especially for Leah, size matters. :-) Actually, they're not that
well-trained. They actually listened to her. I suppose she is fairly commanding. Formerly one of my students, she has more sea-miles than I do at this point. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "DSK" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: One must protest. I protested last time when one of the opposing skippers told my crew to put on the small jib before I got to the boat. We were late that year also. Of course, she denies it. Congratulations on having a crew that is so well trained, she really does believe that size doesn't matter ;) DSK |
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