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RogueIT August 19th 06 10:00 PM

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I went sailing of a J22 for the first time today and am trying to learn
some of the terminology, but for the life of me I can't remember the
opposite of "gybe ho"

Prepare to gybe

Ready

Gybe Ho

what is the litany when you are on tack or tacking?
thanks,
Scott


Thom Stewart August 20th 06 02:28 AM

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Scott,

On boat, when I had one was;

Ready a'bout
Ready
Helm a'lee




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Scotty August 20th 06 02:29 AM

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Well, if you're wearing an eye patch and have a parrot on
your shoulder you should yell, '' Aarrrrg prepare to come
about ya scurvy dogs''. Then '' come about, smartly, ya
bilge rats''.

Or you could use, ''ready about'', then ''coming about'' or
''helm's a lee''.

Scotty


"RogueIT" wrote in message
ps.com...
I went sailing of a J22 for the first time today and am

trying to learn
some of the terminology, but for the life of me I can't

remember the
opposite of "gybe ho"

Prepare to gybe

Ready

Gybe Ho

what is the litany when you are on tack or tacking?
thanks,
Scott




[email protected] August 20th 06 03:09 AM

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Hey Thom...

Back when I was kid in the early 50's learning how to sail on
small boats (simular to a Star class)... I thought the command
was:

"Ready about... hard to lee..!"

Of course a great many years have passed since I heard those type
of orders. :-)

Bill


Thom Stewart August 20th 06 05:32 AM

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Bill,

There is a huge difference between helm's alee and hard alee. Hard Alee
mean the helm is hard against the stops while helms alee means just
enough to bring the bow across the wind without the rudder acting as a
break. Very important in Racing.

Bill, it's a point I won't argue. I'm just saying how I did it.




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Capt. JG August 20th 06 05:45 AM

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We say... "umm" ... then we tack.

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"j" ganz @@
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OzOne wrote in message ...
On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 18:28:18 -0700, (Thom Stewart)
scribbled thusly:

Scott,

On boat, when I had one was;

Ready a'bout
Ready
Helm a'lee




http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

Yep, that's OK.
We mostly race and with a very close understanding of our situation
and tactics that borders on telepathy., the commands are often
something like
" What do you reckon?"
"Yep, let's go"
To which the helm is then pushed down.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




Scout August 20th 06 12:03 PM

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Thanks Thom,
I never heard that until I took a fellow from San Diego sailing with me. He
yelled it out as we were tacking so I asked him what the heck that meant. He
said he had no clue but had heard others belting it out. We laughed, but it
stuck so I've used it ever since.
Scout

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Scott,

On boat, when I had one was;

Ready a'bout
Ready
Helm a'lee




http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage




John Cairns August 20th 06 03:48 PM

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"RogueIT" wrote in message
ps.com...
I went sailing of a J22 for the first time today and am trying to learn
some of the terminology, but for the life of me I can't remember the
opposite of "gybe ho"

Prepare to gybe

Ready

Gybe Ho

what is the litany when you are on tack or tacking?
thanks,
Scott


The skipper used to say:

Ready about
Helm's alee.

The crew chief now says "tacking" instead of "helm's alee"

They will also mention to the crew that we are going to tack before the
sequence.

John Cairns



Scotty August 20th 06 03:58 PM

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With my wife aboard I say,

''Honey , I'm going to tack soon'',
''Watch your head''
''Tacking!''


Scotty


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
We say... "umm" ... then we tack.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

OzOne wrote in message

...
On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 18:28:18 -0700,

(Thom Stewart)
scribbled thusly:

Scott,

On boat, when I had one was;

Ready a'bout
Ready
Helm a'lee




http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

Yep, that's OK.
We mostly race and with a very close understanding of

our situation
and tactics that borders on telepathy., the commands are

often
something like
" What do you reckon?"
"Yep, let's go"
To which the helm is then pushed down.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting

you.





Edgar August 20th 06 05:44 PM

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I am surprised that after all those messages nobody has mentioned:-
'Ready about'
'Lee-oh'

Learned that many years ago and have used it all my life.

Edgar

"John Cairns" wrote in message
et...

"RogueIT" wrote in message
ps.com...
I went sailing of a J22 for the first time today and am trying to learn
some of the terminology, but for the life of me I can't remember the
opposite of "gybe ho"

Prepare to gybe

Ready

Gybe Ho

what is the litany when you are on tack or tacking?
thanks,
Scott


The skipper used to say:

Ready about
Helm's alee.

The crew chief now says "tacking" instead of "helm's alee"

They will also mention to the crew that we are going to tack before the
sequence.

John Cairns





Thom Stewart August 20th 06 06:23 PM

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OK Scout,

Taking the "TACK" terms farther;
Ready A'bout;
Give every one a chance to do their assignments. Head Sail sheet handler
to get winch handles ready, excess slack taken out of the "Lazy Sheet,"
Sheet tailer if you have one to clear the lines and get in position to
take up on the sheet as it becomes available.

The Main sheet trimmer to get the Traveler lines ready ( I like to have
my main down a bit on a Tack to get it drawing as soon a possible and
then trimming to the new tack.)

Ready;
That's to check that the crew has completed their assigned tasks and are
waiting for the new Tack. If they aren't ready, it's their time to let
the Helm or Skipper know there may be a problem.

If no objection; Helm is put A'Lee and announced it "Helm's A'Lee"

About the Mac 26. I had heard there was problems with the rudder on the
early model, which has been corrected.
I've never heard of a Hull failure. Has anyone else?

There sure as hell are enough of them out there and they seem to be
holding up OK..




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DSK August 20th 06 06:51 PM

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Thom Stewart scribbled thusly:
On boat, when I had one was;

Ready a'bout
Ready
Helm a'lee


Depends on the boat, on the situation, on the crew.
Generally, when day sailing, I'll say something like, "Sorry
to change the subject, but we need to tack." Then the people
have to be advised about putting their drink in a secure
place or holding onto it. Then everybody wants to help and
the muddle has to be sorted out. But most of the time, we're
on boats I can handle myself if there aren't too many bodies
in the way.


OzOne wrote
Yep, that's OK.
We mostly race and with a very close understanding of our situation
and tactics that borders on telepathy., the commands are often
something like
" What do you reckon?"
"Yep, let's go"
To which the helm is then pushed down.


Yes but everybody is focussed on sailing. A good crew should
not only be aware of the developing situation in the race &
on the boat, but should have the sheets ready very soon
after the last tack.

The best crew I sailed with would often just say, "Look at
number 123 (or whoever), we need to tack" as he was shifting
his feet & grabbing the lazy sheet; knowing that I'd be
putting the helm down before he finished the sentence. Or
I'd say "Gotta go! Now!" and the helm would be moving as I
spoke.


Capt. JG wrote:
We say... "umm" ... then we tack.


Yeah but you West Coast guys are always so reserved and
understated.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Thom Stewart August 21st 06 01:14 AM

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Yeah Scotty,

Different situation do warrant different commands. One of my variations
is; "Down Jazz", often followed by; "Down Damnit, Jazz"

I've helded up a tack because of a call from inside the Head of " Wait a
Minute, wait a minute!"

That is why the procedure is used. It's a good idea and works.




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RogueIT August 21st 06 01:50 PM

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Well I think I got what I was looking for. I think Tackin' was probably
what was said but if I manage to scrape the funds together to get a
small cruiser I will absolutely use Scotty's
"Aarrrrg prepare to come about ya scurvy dogs".
Then
"come about, smartly, ya bilge rats". I think that is a lingo that is
just beggin to come back.

Thanks again and stay tuned for more simpleton questions like this one.



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