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Joe August 15th 06 02:55 PM

At Sea I Saw
 
A blue over 3 whites, with a green to the right and a bit lower.

WTF is it?

Good for 44 asa points.

Joe


Joe August 16th 06 04:48 PM

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Joe wrote:
A blue over 3 whites, with a green to the right and a bit lower.

WTF is it?

Good for 44 asa points.

Joe


OK...sheeeeeze a hint.

It's a Starboard Profile at night.

Now only good for 22 ASA points.

Joe


Joe August 17th 06 07:23 PM

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Joe wrote:
Joe wrote:
A blue over 3 whites, with a green to the right and a bit lower.

WTF is it?

Good for 44 asa points.

Joe


OK...sheeeeeze a hint.

It's a Starboard Profile at night.

Now only good for 22 ASA points.

Joe


Well it seems you all are as dumb as dirt when it comes to running
lights .

I will provide you retards with yet another clue, it's plain and clear
you all need one.

CLUE #2: This boat is working, and you do not want to cause a big mess.

Now good for only 11 measley ASA points.

Joe


Joe August 17th 06 08:36 PM

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Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 15 Aug 2006 06:55:44 -0700, "Joe" wrote:

A blue over 3 whites, with a green to the right and a bit lower.

WTF is it?

Good for 44 asa points.

Joe


Well, if it was a green over three whites it would be a fishing boat
shooting nets viewed from the starboard side.


Well if it were Red Over Red the Capt.n would be dead.....

Aren't blue lights
usually reserved for government use?


No.....

next.

CWM



Jeff August 17th 06 10:43 PM

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Joe wrote:
Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 15 Aug 2006 06:55:44 -0700, "Joe" wrote:

A blue over 3 whites, with a green to the right and a bit lower.

WTF is it?

Good for 44 asa points.

Joe

Well, if it was a green over three whites it would be a fishing boat
shooting nets viewed from the starboard side.


Well if it were Red Over Red the Capt.n would be dead.....

Aren't blue lights
usually reserved for government use?


No.....

next.
CWM


jeeze ... I try to stay out of these easy ones ... its a tow with a
blue light on the center of the lead barge.

Joe August 17th 06 11:27 PM

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Jeff wrote:
Joe wrote:
Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 15 Aug 2006 06:55:44 -0700, "Joe" wrote:

A blue over 3 whites, with a green to the right and a bit lower.

WTF is it?

Good for 44 asa points.

Joe
Well, if it was a green over three whites it would be a fishing boat
shooting nets viewed from the starboard side.


Well if it were Red Over Red the Capt.n would be dead.....

Aren't blue lights
usually reserved for government use?


No.....

next.
CWM


jeeze ... I try to stay out of these easy ones ... its a tow with a
blue light on the center of the lead barge.


Sorry Jeff, the blue light is not on the barge/ tow, and you failed to
mention why a blue light is required in addition to regular towing
lights.

Joe


Jeff August 17th 06 11:43 PM

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Joe wrote:
jeeze ... I try to stay out of these easy ones ... its a tow with a
blue light on the center of the lead barge.


Sorry Jeff, the blue light is not on the barge/ tow,


I thought is was a "gun sight" to help steering, not for others to see.

and you failed to
mention why a blue light is required in addition to regular towing
lights.


You didn't ask what it was for, only what it was.


Of course, it could just be the Dog Star.

Joe August 17th 06 11:50 PM

At Sea I Saw
 

Jeff wrote:
Joe wrote:
jeeze ... I try to stay out of these easy ones ... its a tow with a
blue light on the center of the lead barge.


Sorry Jeff, the blue light is not on the barge/ tow,


I thought is was a "gun sight" to help steering, not for others to see.



well you thought wrong.

and you failed to
mention why a blue light is required in addition to regular towing
lights.


You didn't ask what it was for, only what it was. In knowing what is is you will know what is is for.


Of course, it could just be the Dog Star.


Could be uranus...but neither are running lights and not likely to be
mistaked as one another.

Now put on your Dunce hat and go sit in the corner with Charlie.

Joe


Capt. JG August 18th 06 12:20 AM

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A police boat towing something?

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"Joe" wrote in message
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A blue over 3 whites, with a green to the right and a bit lower.

WTF is it?

Good for 44 asa points.

Joe




Jeff August 18th 06 12:29 AM

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Joe wrote:
Jeff wrote:
Joe wrote:
jeeze ... I try to stay out of these easy ones ... its a tow with a
blue light on the center of the lead barge.
Sorry Jeff, the blue light is not on the barge/ tow,

I thought is was a "gun sight" to help steering, not for others to see.



well you thought wrong.
and you failed to
mention why a blue light is required in addition to regular towing
lights.

You didn't ask what it was for, only what it was. In knowing what is is you will know what is is for.


Of course, it could just be the Dog Star.


Could be uranus...but neither are running lights and not likely to be
mistaked as one another.

Now put on your Dunce hat and go sit in the corner with Charlie.


"A steering light is a small blue light installed on a pole placed on
the centerline at the head of the tow facing aft. The operator may use
the light to detect heading changes and to align the tow with respect
to a bridge or other restricted navigation area during periods of
darkness."
http://www.ntsb.gov/publictn/2000/MAR0001.pdf

And now you claiming its a "running light." I'm beginning to think
its just some idiot Texan who puts Christmas lights on his boat.

Joe August 18th 06 01:44 AM

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Jeff wrote:
Joe wrote:
Jeff wrote:
Joe wrote:
jeeze ... I try to stay out of these easy ones ... its a tow with a
blue light on the center of the lead barge.
Sorry Jeff, the blue light is not on the barge/ tow,
I thought is was a "gun sight" to help steering, not for others to see.








well you thought wrong.
and you failed to
mention why a blue light is required in addition to regular towing
lights.
You didn't ask what it was for, only what it was. In knowing what is is you will know what is is for.


Of course, it could just be the Dog Star.


Could be uranus...but neither are running lights and not likely to be
mistaked as one another.

Now put on your Dunce hat and go sit in the corner with Charlie.


"A steering light is a small blue light installed on a pole placed on
the centerline at the head of the tow facing aft. The operator may use
the light to detect heading changes and to align the tow with respect
to a bridge or other restricted navigation area during periods of
darkness."
http://www.ntsb.gov/publictn/2000/MAR0001.pdf



Well then how... per tell.... is it over two whites with a green to the
right and slightly lower as the question stated? Next you will be
saying something stupid like it's a police boat towing someone.


And now you claiming its a "running light." I'm beginning to think
its just some idiot Texan who puts Christmas lights on his boat.


You shoulden't think so much....your not very good at it..:0)

Joe


Jeff August 18th 06 02:56 AM

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Joe wrote:
Jeff wrote:
Joe wrote:
Jeff wrote:
Joe wrote:
jeeze ... I try to stay out of these easy ones ... its a tow with a
blue light on the center of the lead barge.
Sorry Jeff, the blue light is not on the barge/ tow,
I thought is was a "gun sight" to help steering, not for others to see.







well you thought wrong.
and you failed to
mention why a blue light is required in addition to regular towing
lights.
You didn't ask what it was for, only what it was. In knowing what is is you will know what is is for.


Of course, it could just be the Dog Star.
Could be uranus...but neither are running lights and not likely to be
mistaked as one another.

Now put on your Dunce hat and go sit in the corner with Charlie.

"A steering light is a small blue light installed on a pole placed on
the centerline at the head of the tow facing aft. The operator may use
the light to detect heading changes and to align the tow with respect
to a bridge or other restricted navigation area during periods of
darkness."
http://www.ntsb.gov/publictn/2000/MAR0001.pdf



Well then how... per tell.... is it over two whites with a green to the
right and slightly lower as the question stated? Next you will be
saying something stupid like it's a police boat towing someone.


Oh. I thought you said three whites. Yous seem very confused about
this. Is it two or three? Are you sure the blue is a "running
light"? There's all sorts of cases where a blue light can mark an
obstruction, but that's not a "running light."


And now you claiming its a "running light." I'm beginning to think
its just some idiot Texan who puts Christmas lights on his boat.


You shoulden't think so much....your not very good at it..:0)


Well so far I've given a valid answer, you've given nothing, other
than showing you're confused about your own quiz. And just where did
you get those 44 ASA point you offered? I don't remember you earning
any. I think you mugged Neal and stole all his points!

Joe August 18th 06 03:12 AM

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Jeff wrote:


Oh. I thought you said three whites.



yeah three ....sorry...


Yous seem very confused about
this. Is it two or three?


three gawd dammit!

Are you sure the blue is a "running
light"?


yes


There's all sorts of cases where a blue light can mark an
obstruction, but that's not a "running light."


this is not an obstruction light.


And now you claiming its a "running light." I'm beginning to think
its just some idiot Texan who puts Christmas lights on his boat.


You shoulden't think so much....your not very good at it..:0)


Well so far I've given a valid answer, you've given nothing, other
than showing you're confused about your own quiz. And just where did
you get those 44 ASA point you offered? I don't remember you earning
any. I think you mugged Neal and stole all his points!


I have over 62 ASA points..check it out!

I'll wait and see if otn get's it, before I reduce it to 5.5 ASA points
with yet another clue.

Joe


Scotty August 18th 06 03:31 AM

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A police boat towing someone.

Scotty

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com..
..
A blue over 3 whites, with a green to the right and a bit

lower.

WTF is it?

Good for 44 asa points.

Joe




Capt. JG August 18th 06 05:20 AM

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A Beneteau?

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"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
A police boat towing someone.

Scotty

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com..
.
A blue over 3 whites, with a green to the right and a bit

lower.

WTF is it?

Good for 44 asa points.

Joe






DSK August 18th 06 11:56 AM

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You shoulden't think so much....your not very good at it..:0)



Looks like Joe is having a Bobsprit moment. Y'know, getting
things wrong and calling other people stupid....


Jeff wrote:
Well so far I've given a valid answer, you've given nothing, other than
showing you're confused about your own quiz.


Not *that* confused, two hoisted whites is a tow, 3 is a
bigger tow.

What I don't understand is how a steering light is going to
be in vertical line with the tow signal lights.

Usually a large tow, a long distance behind the towing
vessel, will have it's own lights to indicate it's presence.



.... And just where did you get
those 44 ASA point you offered? I don't remember you earning any. I
think you mugged Neal and stole all his points!


When did the Crapton get any points, other than DUI?

DSK


Scotty August 18th 06 12:24 PM

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Can you get arrested for 'exceeding your cockpit limit'?

SBV

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
A Beneteau?

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"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
A police boat towing someone.

Scotty

"Joe" wrote in message

oups.com..
.
A blue over 3 whites, with a green to the right and a

bit
lower.

WTF is it?

Good for 44 asa points.

Joe








Jeff August 18th 06 12:31 PM

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DSK wrote:

You shoulden't think so much....your not very good at it..:0)



Looks like Joe is having a Bobsprit moment. Y'know, getting things wrong
and calling other people stupid....


Jeff wrote:
Well so far I've given a valid answer, you've given nothing, other
than showing you're confused about your own quiz.


Not *that* confused, two hoisted whites is a tow, 3 is a bigger tow.

What I don't understand is how a steering light is going to be in
vertical line with the tow signal lights.


It could be a hip tow, so the barge is on the port side. If the
viewing angle is on the starboard side of the tug, then its possible
for them to line up.



Usually a large tow, a long distance behind the towing vessel, will have
it's own lights to indicate it's presence.



.... And just where did you get those 44 ASA point you offered? I
don't remember you earning any. I think you mugged Neal and stole all
his points!


When did the Crapton get any points, other than DUI?

DSK


Joe August 18th 06 01:27 PM

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Joe wrote:
A blue over 3 whites, with a green to the right and a bit lower.

WTF is it?

Good for 44 asa points.

Joe


Starboard Profile

Vessel towing a flexible oil barge or Dracone...which tows totally or
nearly submerged. The Blue Light can be carried in other
positions....below, forward of, or abaft the regular towing
lights....As long as it is all-around and is in addition to the regular
towing lights.

Joe


Joe August 18th 06 02:09 PM

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Jeff wrote:


It could be a hip tow, so the barge is on the port side. If the
viewing angle is on the starboard side of the tug, then its possible
for them to line up.


Well you came closer than anyone Jeff. The key is the item towed is
mostly submerged. The boats that tow icebergs also display the all
around blue in addition to towing config lights.

And all blue light tows are all astern, no one pushes a flexy, dracone,
or berg.


Usually a large tow, a long distance behind the towing vessel, will have
it's own lights to indicate it's presence.


Not in this case Doug. Never pass a blue light tow close astern. Infact
if I could not contact the vessel I'd give a min of 2 miles way.


Joe


Jeff August 18th 06 03:19 PM

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Joe wrote:
Jeff wrote:

It could be a hip tow, so the barge is on the port side. If the
viewing angle is on the starboard side of the tug, then its possible
for them to line up.


Well you came closer than anyone Jeff. The key is the item towed is
mostly submerged. The boats that tow icebergs also display the all
around blue in addition to towing config lights.

And all blue light tows are all astern, no one pushes a flexy, dracone,
or berg.


Usually a large tow, a long distance behind the towing vessel, will have
it's own lights to indicate it's presence.


Not in this case Doug. Never pass a blue light tow close astern. Infact
if I could not contact the vessel I'd give a min of 2 miles way.


Joe

So I know that blue lights are put on fix obstructions, but give you
give a reference to how they are appropriate on tows? Or is it just
that they can't be confused with anything proper, and thus they can be
used anytime?

DSK August 18th 06 04:20 PM

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Joe wrote:
Well you came closer than anyone Jeff. The key is the item towed is
mostly submerged. The boats that tow icebergs also display the all
around blue in addition to towing config lights.


In other words, it shows 3 vertical lights indicating a long
tow then a blue light as some kind of secret Texas signal?
Got it.



Usually a large tow, a long distance behind the towing vessel, will have
it's own lights to indicate it's presence.



Joe wrote:
Not in this case Doug. Never pass a blue light tow close astern. Infact
if I could not contact the vessel I'd give a min of 2 miles way.


I would not pass any vessel close if it was showing lights
for a large tow, and certainly would try to contact them.
I've never had a working vessel (other than a small shrimper
which was trawling illegally) fail to answer a VHF hail.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Joe August 18th 06 05:15 PM

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DSK wrote:
Joe wrote:
Well you came closer than anyone Jeff. The key is the item towed is
mostly submerged. The boats that tow icebergs also display the all
around blue in addition to towing config lights.


In other words, it shows 3 vertical lights indicating a long
tow then a blue light as some kind of secret Texas signal?
Got it.


I see you are perfectly willing to have a Bobspittle moment as well
Doug ;0)

Douglas having seen many tows displaying this config.. I know it's
used. Often called a blue light tow.

Infact have a look at this LNM--

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/marcomms/...N%20Circ45.pdf

I'll keep my 44 ASA points...thank you very much. Bunch of weekend
warriors!

Joe
Towing Master BTW





Usually a large tow, a long distance behind the towing vessel, will have
it's own lights to indicate it's presence.



Joe wrote:
Not in this case Doug. Never pass a blue light tow close astern. Infact
if I could not contact the vessel I'd give a min of 2 miles way.


I would not pass any vessel close if it was showing lights
for a large tow, and certainly would try to contact them.
I've never had a working vessel (other than a small shrimper
which was trawling illegally) fail to answer a VHF hail.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King



DSK August 18th 06 05:22 PM

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In other words, it shows 3 vertical lights indicating a long
tow then a blue light as some kind of secret Texas signal?
Got it.



Joe wrote:
I see you are perfectly willing to have a Bobspittle moment as well
Doug ;0)


Not at all.
I'm not getting my own info confused and calling other
people stupid, am I? You were. Did I call you stupid even
when you had no clue about identifying common racing classes?


Douglas having seen many tows displaying this config.. I know it's
used.


I never said it wasn't. I only said that it is not
referenced in any common sources. For example Chapman's has
many pages on lights, including various kinds of tows, and
submarines (which you almost never see except right outside
their bases in this post Cold War era); but no blue light tows.



Infact have a look at this LNM--

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/marcomms/...N%20Circ45.pdf


OK thanks for the link.

DSK


Joe August 18th 06 05:40 PM

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DSK wrote:

then a blue light as some kind of secret Texas signal?
Got it.


Joe wrote:
Bobspittle moment


Doug claimed:
Not at all.


Not at all? Hummmmmmmmmmm

Infact have a look at this LNM--

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/marcomms/...N%20Circ45.pdf


OK thanks for the link.


Sorry, the Danish notice of the Secret Texas Blue Light is not as good
as the Greek and Spanish versions of our Texas secret blue light
program ....but I thought it would suffice.

BTW Chapmans SUCKS.

Joe

DSK



Joe August 18th 06 05:46 PM

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Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 18 Aug 2006 09:15:34 -0700, "Joe" wrote:


DSK wrote:
Joe wrote:
Well you came closer than anyone Jeff. The key is the item towed is
mostly submerged. The boats that tow icebergs also display the all
around blue in addition to towing config lights.


In other words, it shows 3 vertical lights indicating a long
tow then a blue light as some kind of secret Texas signal?
Got it.


I see you are perfectly willing to have a Bobspittle moment as well
Doug ;0)

Douglas having seen many tows displaying this config.. I know it's
used. Often called a blue light tow.

Infact have a look at this LNM--

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/marcomms/...N%20Circ45.pdf

I'll keep my 44 ASA points...thank you very much. Bunch of weekend
warriors!

Joe
Towing Master BTW



DENMARK, nitwit!


Shoulden't you be at k-mart chasing the blue lights?

Joe
CWM



Joe August 18th 06 05:54 PM

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Capt. JG wrote:
A police boat towing something?



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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
A blue over 3 whites, with a green to the right and a bit lower.

WTF is it?

Good for 44 asa points.

Joe



Capt. JG August 18th 06 06:26 PM

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Picture of you?

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"Joe" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:
A police boat towing something?



http://evilresident.fatoprofugus.net/dunce.gif







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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
A blue over 3 whites, with a green to the right and a bit lower.

WTF is it?

Good for 44 asa points.

Joe





Capt. JG August 18th 06 06:28 PM

At Sea I Saw~~~~ Tha answer
 
So, you didn't know the answer... take off 44 asa points.

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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

Joe wrote:
A blue over 3 whites, with a green to the right and a bit lower.

WTF is it?

Good for 44 asa points.

Joe


Starboard Profile

Vessel towing a flexible oil barge or Dracone...which tows totally or
nearly submerged. The Blue Light can be carried in other
positions....below, forward of, or abaft the regular towing
lights....As long as it is all-around and is in addition to the regular
towing lights.

Joe




Joe August 18th 06 06:55 PM

At Sea I Saw
 

Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 18 Aug 2006 09:46:36 -0700, "Joe" wrote:


Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 18 Aug 2006 09:15:34 -0700, "Joe" wrote:


DSK wrote:
Joe wrote:
Well you came closer than anyone Jeff. The key is the item towed is
mostly submerged. The boats that tow icebergs also display the all
around blue in addition to towing config lights.


In other words, it shows 3 vertical lights indicating a long
tow then a blue light as some kind of secret Texas signal?
Got it.

I see you are perfectly willing to have a Bobspittle moment as well
Doug ;0)

Douglas having seen many tows displaying this config.. I know it's
used. Often called a blue light tow.

Infact have a look at this LNM--

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/marcomms/...N%20Circ45.pdf

I'll keep my 44 ASA points...thank you very much. Bunch of weekend
warriors!

Joe
Towing Master BTW


DENMARK, nitwit!


Shoulden't you be at k-mart chasing the blue lights?

Joe
CWM



No blue lights mentioned anywhere, Joe!

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/mwv/navru...les/Rule24.htm

Pay special attention to 24g!


Sorry Charlie, See section 5, subsection 1 of the (IMCO) Merchant
Shipping (Safety of Navigation) act.

Joe

CWM




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