Joe wrote:
Jeff wrote:
Joe wrote:
Jeff wrote:
Joe wrote:
jeeze ... I try to stay out of these easy ones ... its a tow with a
blue light on the center of the lead barge.
Sorry Jeff, the blue light is not on the barge/ tow,
I thought is was a "gun sight" to help steering, not for others to see.






well you thought wrong.
and you failed to
mention why a blue light is required in addition to regular towing
lights.
You didn't ask what it was for, only what it was. In knowing what is is you will know what is is for.


Of course, it could just be the Dog Star.
Could be uranus...but neither are running lights and not likely to be
mistaked as one another.

Now put on your Dunce hat and go sit in the corner with Charlie.
"A steering light is a small blue light installed on a pole placed on
the centerline at the head of the tow facing aft. The operator may use
the light to detect heading changes and to align the tow with respect
to a bridge or other restricted navigation area during periods of
darkness."
http://www.ntsb.gov/publictn/2000/MAR0001.pdf


Well then how... per tell.... is it over two whites with a green to the
right and slightly lower as the question stated? Next you will be
saying something stupid like it's a police boat towing someone.

Oh. I thought you said three whites. Yous seem very confused about
this. Is it two or three? Are you sure the blue is a "running
light"? There's all sorts of cases where a blue light can mark an
obstruction, but that's not a "running light."


And now you claiming its a "running light." I'm beginning to think
its just some idiot Texan who puts Christmas lights on his boat.

You shoulden't think so much....your not very good at it..:0)

Well so far I've given a valid answer, you've given nothing, other
than showing you're confused about your own quiz. And just where did
you get those 44 ASA point you offered? I don't remember you earning
any. I think you mugged Neal and stole all his points!

Jeff wrote:


Oh. I thought you said three whites.


yeah three ....sorry...


Yous seem very confused about
this. Is it two or three?

three gawd dammit!

Are you sure the blue is a "running
light"?

yes


There's all sorts of cases where a blue light can mark an
obstruction, but that's not a "running light."

this is not an obstruction light.


And now you claiming its a "running light." I'm beginning to think
its just some idiot Texan who puts Christmas lights on his boat.

You shoulden't think so much....your not very good at it..:0)

Well so far I've given a valid answer, you've given nothing, other
than showing you're confused about your own quiz. And just where did
you get those 44 ASA point you offered? I don't remember you earning
any. I think you mugged Neal and stole all his points!

I have over 62 ASA points..check it out!

I'll wait and see if otn get's it, before I reduce it to 5.5 ASA points
with yet another clue.

Joe

You shoulden't think so much....your not very good at it..:0)


Looks like Joe is having a Bobsprit moment. Y'know, getting
things wrong and calling other people stupid....


Jeff wrote:
Well so far I've given a valid answer, you've given nothing, other than
showing you're confused about your own quiz.

Not *that* confused, two hoisted whites is a tow, 3 is a
bigger tow.

What I don't understand is how a steering light is going to
be in vertical line with the tow signal lights.

Usually a large tow, a long distance behind the towing
vessel, will have it's own lights to indicate it's presence.



.... And just where did you get
those 44 ASA point you offered? I don't remember you earning any. I
think you mugged Neal and stole all his points!

When did the Crapton get any points, other than DUI?

DSK

DSK wrote:

You shoulden't think so much....your not very good at it..:0)


Looks like Joe is having a Bobsprit moment. Y'know, getting things wrong
and calling other people stupid....


Jeff wrote:
Well so far I've given a valid answer, you've given nothing, other
than showing you're confused about your own quiz.

Not *that* confused, two hoisted whites is a tow, 3 is a bigger tow.

What I don't understand is how a steering light is going to be in
vertical line with the tow signal lights.

It could be a hip tow, so the barge is on the port side. If the
viewing angle is on the starboard side of the tug, then its possible
for them to line up.



Usually a large tow, a long distance behind the towing vessel, will have
it's own lights to indicate it's presence.



.... And just where did you get those 44 ASA point you offered? I
don't remember you earning any. I think you mugged Neal and stole all
his points!

When did the Crapton get any points, other than DUI?

DSK

Jeff wrote:


It could be a hip tow, so the barge is on the port side. If the
viewing angle is on the starboard side of the tug, then its possible
for them to line up.


Well you came closer than anyone Jeff. The key is the item towed is
mostly submerged. The boats that tow icebergs also display the all
around blue in addition to towing config lights.

And all blue light tows are all astern, no one pushes a flexy, dracone,
or berg.


Usually a large tow, a long distance behind the towing vessel, will have
it's own lights to indicate it's presence.


Not in this case Doug. Never pass a blue light tow close astern. Infact
if I could not contact the vessel I'd give a min of 2 miles way.


Joe

Joe wrote:
Jeff wrote:

It could be a hip tow, so the barge is on the port side. If the
viewing angle is on the starboard side of the tug, then its possible
for them to line up.


Well you came closer than anyone Jeff. The key is the item towed is
mostly submerged. The boats that tow icebergs also display the all
around blue in addition to towing config lights.

And all blue light tows are all astern, no one pushes a flexy, dracone,
or berg.


Usually a large tow, a long distance behind the towing vessel, will have
it's own lights to indicate it's presence.


Not in this case Doug. Never pass a blue light tow close astern. Infact
if I could not contact the vessel I'd give a min of 2 miles way.


Joe

So I know that blue lights are put on fix obstructions, but give you
give a reference to how they are appropriate on tows? Or is it just
that they can't be confused with anything proper, and thus they can be
used anytime?

Joe wrote:
Well you came closer than anyone Jeff. The key is the item towed is
mostly submerged. The boats that tow icebergs also display the all
around blue in addition to towing config lights.


In other words, it shows 3 vertical lights indicating a long
tow then a blue light as some kind of secret Texas signal?
Got it.



Usually a large tow, a long distance behind the towing vessel, will have
it's own lights to indicate it's presence.



Joe wrote:
Not in this case Doug. Never pass a blue light tow close astern. Infact
if I could not contact the vessel I'd give a min of 2 miles way.


I would not pass any vessel close if it was showing lights
for a large tow, and certainly would try to contact them.
I've never had a working vessel (other than a small shrimper
which was trawling illegally) fail to answer a VHF hail.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

DSK wrote:
Joe wrote:
Well you came closer than anyone Jeff. The key is the item towed is
mostly submerged. The boats that tow icebergs also display the all
around blue in addition to towing config lights.


In other words, it shows 3 vertical lights indicating a long
tow then a blue light as some kind of secret Texas signal?
Got it.

I see you are perfectly willing to have a Bobspittle moment as well
Doug ;0)

Douglas having seen many tows displaying this config.. I know it's
used. Often called a blue light tow.

Infact have a look at this LNM--

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/marcomms/...N%20Circ45.pdf

I'll keep my 44 ASA points...thank you very much. Bunch of weekend
warriors!

Joe
Towing Master BTW





Usually a large tow, a long distance behind the towing vessel, will have
it's own lights to indicate it's presence.



Joe wrote:
Not in this case Doug. Never pass a blue light tow close astern. Infact
if I could not contact the vessel I'd give a min of 2 miles way.


I would not pass any vessel close if it was showing lights
for a large tow, and certainly would try to contact them.
I've never had a working vessel (other than a small shrimper
which was trawling illegally) fail to answer a VHF hail.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

In other words, it shows 3 vertical lights indicating a long
tow then a blue light as some kind of secret Texas signal?
Got it.


Joe wrote:
I see you are perfectly willing to have a Bobspittle moment as well
Doug ;0)


Not at all.
I'm not getting my own info confused and calling other
people stupid, am I? You were. Did I call you stupid even
when you had no clue about identifying common racing classes?


Douglas having seen many tows displaying this config.. I know it's
used.

I never said it wasn't. I only said that it is not
referenced in any common sources. For example Chapman's has
many pages on lights, including various kinds of tows, and
submarines (which you almost never see except right outside
their bases in this post Cold War era); but no blue light tows.



Infact have a look at this LNM--

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/marcomms/...N%20Circ45.pdf


OK thanks for the link.

DSK