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DSK August 9th 06 07:14 PM

Even in her ugly days
 
http://www.seacraftclassics.com/stor...nderoga_lg.jpg

Joe wrote:
No way, to funky...no board


Doesn't need one. This boat sails to windward well enough to
win races without a 'board.

Of course, to my mind, that suggests that she could have a
shallower keel and a centerboard and be better yet. But the
man who commissioned the design felt differently and
'Ticonderoga' is classic beauty recognized anywhere.

Ironically, L.F. Herreshoff did not feel she was one of his
bestter designs.




http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/pho...rnspreview.jpg



Not even close. It's a toy...


All sailboats in this day & time are toys, except for 3rd
world fishing boats which often have bluer tarp sails. If
you disagree, please give some examples of working craft
that ply their trade and earn a living for their owners
regularly under sail. I'd love to see them.


http://www.dmainformatica.it/wall/sport/alinghi.jpg



Well she's a giant, Fragile brute force, too easy to snap.


Stronger than steel. And still beautiful IMHO


And of course, this hull has lines that are both seductive &
practical:

http://community.webshots.com/photo/...35692614zVFqtY



How much weight should she carry? With such a high freeboard I'd guess
800 lbs.


That would put her down to about 10 ~ 11" of freeboard. In
reasonably calm weather, I'd carry that much in her.

A naval architect friend who critiqued my first few versions
of this hull said "My God, are you planning to row a
Mini-Cooper in from anchorage?" Reserve bouyancy is one of
those things where more is better ;) The amazing thing is
that she still has quite graceful lines and a metacentric
height which is very close to the same as a flat-botton pram
or inflatable. I'm eager to see what her hull will weigh
when I finish the lay-up.

DSK


Joe August 9th 06 07:53 PM

Even in her ugly days
 

DSK wrote:

All sailboats in this day & time are toys, except for 3rd
world fishing boats which often have bluer tarp sails. If
you disagree, please give some examples of working craft
that ply their trade and earn a living for their owners
regularly under sail. I'd love to see them.


http://www.skipjack.org/theboat.html

Joe



DSK August 9th 06 08:06 PM

Even in her ugly days
 
.... please give some examples of working craft
that ply their trade and earn a living for their owners
regularly under sail. I'd love to see them.



Joe wrote:
http://www.skipjack.org/theboat.html


I hate to give you bad news, Joe.

They don't make a living under sail any more, Joe. There are
certain days during the season where they are allowed to use
the pushboats and that's what they all do.

Skipjacks are certainly an example of classic working craft,
but they're also an example of how sail propulsion just
isn't economically viable in the developed world, even in
very specialized trades with legal protection.

DSK


Scotty August 10th 06 04:07 AM

Even in her ugly days
 

"Joe" wrote in message
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Scotty wrote:

I must be looking at the wrong pic, all I see is you and

a
boat.

Scotty


Sweet huh? Have you even seen sexier curves?



Yes, but she wouldn't let me take pictures.

;)




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