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[email protected] July 29th 06 09:23 AM

Time for cargo sailing ships again?!
 
With water transport being woefully inefficient on fuel, are we on the
verge of a new era of modern cargo transport by sail?


Capt. JG July 29th 06 06:54 PM

Time for cargo sailing ships again?!
 
Probably not, but it would be great to see. I'd like to see the Clipper
ships make a comeback.

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www.sailnow.com

wrote in message
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With water transport being woefully inefficient on fuel, are we on the
verge of a new era of modern cargo transport by sail?




[email protected] July 30th 06 01:18 AM

Time for cargo sailing ships again?!
 
I think they'll look very different.....

Capt. JG wrote:
Probably not, but it would be great to see. I'd like to see the Clipper
ships make a comeback.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

wrote in message
oups.com...
With water transport being woefully inefficient on fuel, are we on the
verge of a new era of modern cargo transport by sail?



Capt. JG July 30th 06 07:46 AM

Time for cargo sailing ships again?!
 
Yeah, but the originals were pretty amazing. Considered ugly in their day,
apparently.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

wrote in message
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I think they'll look very different.....

Capt. JG wrote:
Probably not, but it would be great to see. I'd like to see the Clipper
ships make a comeback.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

wrote in message
oups.com...
With water transport being woefully inefficient on fuel, are we on the
verge of a new era of modern cargo transport by sail?





[email protected] July 30th 06 12:26 PM

Time for cargo sailing ships again?!
 

Capt. JG wrote:
Yeah, but the originals were pretty amazing. Considered ugly in their day,
apparently.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

wrote in message
ups.com...
I think they'll look very different.....

Capt. JG wrote:
Probably not, but it would be great to see. I'd like to see the Clipper
ships make a comeback.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

wrote in message
oups.com...
With water transport being woefully inefficient on fuel, are we on the
verge of a new era of modern cargo transport by sail?




Just a couple of links to set one thinking.

http://library.thinkquest.org/C00154...big/sea-04.jpg

http://www.primidi.com/2005/03/07.html



Here's a google for mo
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...G=Search&meta=


Edgar July 30th 06 03:24 PM

Time for cargo sailing ships again?!
 
I have often thought that it would be very interesting to build a square
rigger using modern technology to reduce the number of crew needed by
eliminating the need to go aloft. Each yardarm could have furling gear
inside it, similar to that now commonly used in masts, so at the press of a
button the sail could reef or disappear altogether.
Then if all halliards, sheets and braces were led to electric winches nobody
would even need to go on deck.
As a final refinement you could have a central computer programmed to do
everything necessary when you hit a button labelled 'go about'.
But I think one would still need a motor to avoid having to spend a week or
more trying to get around Cape Horn against the prevailing winds...
Edgar


wrote in message
ups.com...
I think they'll look very different.....

Capt. JG wrote:
Probably not, but it would be great to see. I'd like to see the Clipper
ships make a comeback.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

wrote in message
oups.com...
With water transport being woefully inefficient on fuel, are we on the
verge of a new era of modern cargo transport by sail?





Scotty July 30th 06 03:48 PM

Time for cargo sailing ships again?!
 
Something like this, Edgar?
http://www.starclippers.com/ships_rc.html

Scotty


"Edgar" wrote in message
...
I have often thought that it would be very interesting to

build a square
rigger using modern technology to reduce the number of

crew needed by
eliminating the need to go aloft. Each yardarm could have

furling gear
inside it, similar to that now commonly used in masts, so

at the press of a
button the sail could reef or disappear altogether.
Then if all halliards, sheets and braces were led to

electric winches nobody
would even need to go on deck.
As a final refinement you could have a central computer

programmed to do
everything necessary when you hit a button labelled 'go

about'.
But I think one would still need a motor to avoid having

to spend a week or
more trying to get around Cape Horn against the prevailing

winds...
Edgar


wrote in message

ups.com...
I think they'll look very different.....

Capt. JG wrote:
Probably not, but it would be great to see. I'd like

to see the Clipper
ships make a comeback.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

wrote in message

oups.com..
..
With water transport being woefully inefficient on

fuel, are we on the
verge of a new era of modern cargo transport by

sail?







Capt. JG July 30th 06 06:27 PM

Time for cargo sailing ships again?!
 
Interesting, but I'd rather see the old ones come back. They would be worth
paying a premium just to see them sail.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

wrote in message
oups.com...

Capt. JG wrote:
Yeah, but the originals were pretty amazing. Considered ugly in their
day,
apparently.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

wrote in message
ups.com...
I think they'll look very different.....

Capt. JG wrote:
Probably not, but it would be great to see. I'd like to see the
Clipper
ships make a comeback.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

wrote in message
oups.com...
With water transport being woefully inefficient on fuel, are we on
the
verge of a new era of modern cargo transport by sail?




Just a couple of links to set one thinking.

http://library.thinkquest.org/C00154...big/sea-04.jpg

http://www.primidi.com/2005/03/07.html



Here's a google for mo
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...G=Search&meta=




Capt. JG July 30th 06 06:30 PM

Time for cargo sailing ships again?!
 
The New, New Thing. A Silicon Valley Story. Great book.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Edgar" wrote in message
...
I have often thought that it would be very interesting to build a square
rigger using modern technology to reduce the number of crew needed by
eliminating the need to go aloft. Each yardarm could have furling gear
inside it, similar to that now commonly used in masts, so at the press of
a
button the sail could reef or disappear altogether.
Then if all halliards, sheets and braces were led to electric winches
nobody
would even need to go on deck.
As a final refinement you could have a central computer programmed to do
everything necessary when you hit a button labelled 'go about'.
But I think one would still need a motor to avoid having to spend a week
or
more trying to get around Cape Horn against the prevailing winds...
Edgar


wrote in message
ups.com...
I think they'll look very different.....

Capt. JG wrote:
Probably not, but it would be great to see. I'd like to see the Clipper
ships make a comeback.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

wrote in message
oups.com...
With water transport being woefully inefficient on fuel, are we on
the
verge of a new era of modern cargo transport by sail?







Edgar July 30th 06 08:21 PM

Time for cargo sailing ships again?!
 
Well, that is pretty impressive but a long way from being a cargo ship.
Whoever heard of having a settee in the crows nest?
Nothing is said about how the sails are worked although they must be pretty
hi-tech, doubtless somewhat along the lines I was thinking.
But it is certainly a fine ship and I would like to see it under full sail.
Edgar
"Scotty" wrote in message
...
Something like this, Edgar?
http://www.starclippers.com/ships_rc.html

Scotty


"Edgar" wrote in message
...
I have often thought that it would be very interesting to

build a square
rigger using modern technology to reduce the number of

crew needed by
eliminating the need to go aloft. Each yardarm could have

furling gear
inside it, similar to that now commonly used in masts, so

at the press of a
button the sail could reef or disappear altogether.
Then if all halliards, sheets and braces were led to

electric winches nobody
would even need to go on deck.
As a final refinement you could have a central computer

programmed to do
everything necessary when you hit a button labelled 'go

about'.
But I think one would still need a motor to avoid having

to spend a week or
more trying to get around Cape Horn against the prevailing

winds...
Edgar


wrote in message

ups.com...
I think they'll look very different.....

Capt. JG wrote:
Probably not, but it would be great to see. I'd like

to see the Clipper
ships make a comeback.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

wrote in message

oups.com..
.
With water transport being woefully inefficient on

fuel, are we on the
verge of a new era of modern cargo transport by

sail?









[email protected] July 31st 06 12:29 AM

Time for cargo sailing ships again?!
 

Capt. JG wrote:
Interesting, but I'd rather see the old ones come back. They would be worth
paying a premium just to see them sail.


Sure, but viability is the bottom line, and it looks like they will
become viable again sooner or later.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

wrote in message
oups.com...

Capt. JG wrote:
Yeah, but the originals were pretty amazing. Considered ugly in their
day,
apparently.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

wrote in message
ups.com...
I think they'll look very different.....

Capt. JG wrote:
Probably not, but it would be great to see. I'd like to see the
Clipper
ships make a comeback.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

wrote in message
oups.com...
With water transport being woefully inefficient on fuel, are we on
the
verge of a new era of modern cargo transport by sail?




Just a couple of links to set one thinking.

http://library.thinkquest.org/C00154...big/sea-04.jpg

http://www.primidi.com/2005/03/07.html



Here's a google for mo
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...G=Search&meta=




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