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Bob Crantz July 11th 06 05:31 PM

Sailing in Colorado Danger!
 
Do not fall into the water:

http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/3326546.html




Maxprop July 12th 06 04:17 AM

Sailing in Colorado Danger!
 

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
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Do not fall into the water:

http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/3326546.html


I used to live near the Cherry Creek Res. During my time there we saw
alligators, koi, and other non-native species, apparently dumped by
miscreants who'd tired of them. A pacu doesn't surprise me in the least.

Max



Bob Crantz July 12th 06 04:56 AM

Sailing in Colorado Danger!
 

"Maxprop" wrote in message
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"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
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Do not fall into the water:

http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/3326546.html


I used to live near the Cherry Creek Res. During my time there we saw
alligators, koi, and other non-native species, apparently dumped by
miscreants who'd tired of them. A pacu doesn't surprise me in the least.

Max

Don't tell me you lived in Aurora!

Cherry Creek Reservoir has good sailing. There was an alligator or similar
in one of the city's lakes.




Maxprop July 12th 06 03:04 PM

Sailing in Colorado Danger!
 

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
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"Maxprop" wrote in message
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"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
. ..
Do not fall into the water:

http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/3326546.html


I used to live near the Cherry Creek Res. During my time there we saw
alligators, koi, and other non-native species, apparently dumped by
miscreants who'd tired of them. A pacu doesn't surprise me in the least.

Max

Don't tell me you lived in Aurora!

Cherry Creek Reservoir has good sailing. There was an alligator or similar
in one of the city's lakes.


We lived just south of Parker Road but inside 225, which, IIRC, put us in
Denver, not Aurora. The dam for the res loomed just to the southeast. We
used to race in Sloan's Lake, in the city. Coming from Michigan and having
raced Snipes, we located the only Snipe fleet in the city at the time.
Sloan's was small and in a park. It was also shallow, which meant that a
turtle put your mast in the muck. We did well there, but never won the
fleet championship. There was one awesome sailor in the fleet who
ultimately ended up as the tactician on America's Cup boats for three
different nations depending upon the year in question. His wife won the
Laser Nationals a few years after we left Denver.

We also raced Ensigns on Lake Dillon. Interesting place: we'd leave the
dock in shorts and t-shirts in 72 degree weather and be in foulies in
blinding snow by the end of some races. When the storms came down over
Buffalo Mt. they came with a vengeance. 40kt winds were not uncommon, or
unexpected.

You still living in the Denver area?

Max



Scotty July 12th 06 03:24 PM

Sailing in Colorado Danger!
 

"Maxprop" wrote in message
news:Oj7tg.6653
We also raced Ensigns on Lake Dillon. Interesting place:

we'd leave the
dock in shorts and t-shirts in 72 degree weather and be in

foulies in
blinding snow by the end of some races. When the storms

came down over
Buffalo Mt. they came with a vengeance. 40kt winds were

not uncommon, or
unexpected.



40 kt winds on the bobspit scale? That's like 12 mph.

Scotty



Bob Crantz July 12th 06 04:32 PM

Sailing in Colorado Danger!
 

"Maxprop" wrote in message
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"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
...

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
. ..
Do not fall into the water:

http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/3326546.html

I used to live near the Cherry Creek Res. During my time there we saw
alligators, koi, and other non-native species, apparently dumped by
miscreants who'd tired of them. A pacu doesn't surprise me in the
least.

Max

Don't tell me you lived in Aurora!

Cherry Creek Reservoir has good sailing. There was an alligator or
similar in one of the city's lakes.


We lived just south of Parker Road but inside 225, which, IIRC, put us in
Denver, not Aurora. The dam for the res loomed just to the southeast. We
used to race in Sloan's Lake, in the city. Coming from Michigan and
having raced Snipes, we located the only Snipe fleet in the city at the
time. Sloan's was small and in a park. It was also shallow, which meant
that a turtle put your mast in the muck. We did well there, but never won
the fleet championship. There was one awesome sailor in the fleet who
ultimately ended up as the tactician on America's Cup boats for three
different nations depending upon the year in question. His wife won the
Laser Nationals a few years after we left Denver.

We also raced Ensigns on Lake Dillon. Interesting place: we'd leave the
dock in shorts and t-shirts in 72 degree weather and be in foulies in
blinding snow by the end of some races. When the storms came down over
Buffalo Mt. they came with a vengeance. 40kt winds were not uncommon, or
unexpected.

You still living in the Denver area?

Max

I live in the foothills. I know a few snipe sailors here. I believe they are
having the Nationals here next year.

The wind gusts in the mountains and foothills can be quite strong, in the
Mach 2.7 regime on the Bobsprit Scale. Those wind gusts keep you alert.




Maxprop July 13th 06 04:02 AM

Sailing in Colorado Danger!
 

"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Maxprop" wrote in message
news:Oj7tg.6653
We also raced Ensigns on Lake Dillon. Interesting place:

we'd leave the
dock in shorts and t-shirts in 72 degree weather and be in

foulies in
blinding snow by the end of some races. When the storms

came down over
Buffalo Mt. they came with a vengeance. 40kt winds were

not uncommon, or
unexpected.



40 kt winds on the bobspit scale? That's like 12 mph.


The Bobsprit Scale is easy to read: he wets his pants above 10mph.

Max



Maxprop July 13th 06 04:09 AM

Sailing in Colorado Danger!
 

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
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"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
...

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
. ..
Do not fall into the water:

http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/3326546.html

I used to live near the Cherry Creek Res. During my time there we saw
alligators, koi, and other non-native species, apparently dumped by
miscreants who'd tired of them. A pacu doesn't surprise me in the
least.

Max

Don't tell me you lived in Aurora!

Cherry Creek Reservoir has good sailing. There was an alligator or
similar in one of the city's lakes.


We lived just south of Parker Road but inside 225, which, IIRC, put us in
Denver, not Aurora. The dam for the res loomed just to the southeast.
We used to race in Sloan's Lake, in the city. Coming from Michigan and
having raced Snipes, we located the only Snipe fleet in the city at the
time. Sloan's was small and in a park. It was also shallow, which meant
that a turtle put your mast in the muck. We did well there, but never
won the fleet championship. There was one awesome sailor in the fleet
who ultimately ended up as the tactician on America's Cup boats for three
different nations depending upon the year in question. His wife won the
Laser Nationals a few years after we left Denver.

We also raced Ensigns on Lake Dillon. Interesting place: we'd leave the
dock in shorts and t-shirts in 72 degree weather and be in foulies in
blinding snow by the end of some races. When the storms came down over
Buffalo Mt. they came with a vengeance. 40kt winds were not uncommon, or
unexpected.

You still living in the Denver area?

Max

I live in the foothills. I know a few snipe sailors here. I believe they
are having the Nationals here next year.


On what water?


The wind gusts in the mountains and foothills can be quite strong, in the
Mach 2.7 regime on the Bobsprit Scale. Those wind gusts keep you alert.


You get plenty of warning. When you see the clouds ripping down Buffalo
Mt., you've got about 7 minutes to get the chute doused and stowed, and your
foulies on.

I was crewing one weekend for a friend on his Lightning on the Reudi
Reservoir near Aspen when the fleet got hit with a gust that some said
exceeded 50kts. Knocked us all flat on the water, and two kids nearly
drowned. Five minutes before it was 8kts., and it was the same five minutes
after. Weird winds in the mountains.

Max



Bob Crantz July 14th 06 01:51 AM

Sailing in Colorado Danger!
 

"Maxprop" wrote in message I believe they
are having the Nationals here next year.


On what water?


http://snipe2007.org/



The wind gusts in the mountains and foothills can be quite strong, in the
Mach 2.7 regime on the Bobsprit Scale. Those wind gusts keep you alert.


You get plenty of warning. When you see the clouds ripping down Buffalo
Mt., you've got about 7 minutes to get the chute doused and stowed, and
your foulies on.

I was crewing one weekend for a friend on his Lightning on the Reudi
Reservoir near Aspen when the fleet got hit with a gust that some said
exceeded 50kts. Knocked us all flat on the water, and two kids nearly
drowned. Five minutes before it was 8kts., and it was the same five
minutes after. Weird winds in the mountains.


The wind can really hit without warning. Ever get hit with any of those
microbursts?



Maxprop July 17th 06 04:37 AM

Sailing in Colorado Danger!
 

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
. ..

"Maxprop" wrote in message I believe they
are having the Nationals here next year.


On what water?


http://snipe2007.org/


We raced Ensigns on Dillon. I hope they tell the Snipe sailors to bring
clothing for virtually any type of weather.



The wind gusts in the mountains and foothills can be quite strong, in
the Mach 2.7 regime on the Bobsprit Scale. Those wind gusts keep you
alert.


You get plenty of warning. When you see the clouds ripping down Buffalo
Mt., you've got about 7 minutes to get the chute doused and stowed, and
your foulies on.

I was crewing one weekend for a friend on his Lightning on the Reudi
Reservoir near Aspen when the fleet got hit with a gust that some said
exceeded 50kts. Knocked us all flat on the water, and two kids nearly
drowned. Five minutes before it was 8kts., and it was the same five
minutes after. Weird winds in the mountains.


The wind can really hit without warning. Ever get hit with any of those
microbursts?


Not on Dillon, but while sailing on Lake Michigan. And while flying.

Max




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