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Martin Baxter wrote:
Scotty wrote: I have a non-boating friend who's going on a cruise next week. He's concerned about seasickness. I told him ginger is a good cure. I bought him a box of Ginger Snaps ( more for a joke ). Should he start munching on these before he steps onboard or wait till / if he feels bad? SBV Aren't you related to a Canuck now? Get some Gravol, best stuff on the planet, but you can't get in 'merica. Cheers Marty Good old over the counter Gravol, or the 'no-name- versions of it. This stuff makes me drowsy also. |
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Don White wrote:
Aren't you related to a Canuck now? Get some Gravol, best stuff on the planet, but you can't get in 'merica. Cheers Marty Good old over the counter Gravol, or the 'no-name- versions of it. This stuff makes me drowsy also. The packaging does carry that warning, I can't speak from personal experience, so far I've not had a problem, (he says with fingers crossed). Cheers Marty |
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Mythbusters did a piece recently on non-prescription (over the counter)
antidotes to seasickness. It included those wrist bands, various concoctions and ginger. Only ginger worked. We always carry ginger root on board as well as ginger beer (not ginger ale). The prescription drugs also worked but left people drowsy or even spaced out. |
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Joe wrote:
Steve Thrasher wrote: Scotty wrote: The only time I felt queasy was anchored in a storm, closed up cabin, with an alcohol stove cooking spaghetti. Not a good combination. In 1957 my dad was assigned to Hickam AFB. We drove to San Francisco and boarded a WWII US Navy troop transport, refurbished slightly. For our first meal out, just after passing under the Golden Gate and catching some swells, was "Split Pea Soup". Wonderful stuff, green and slopping about in the waves. Wuss.. Green pea will settle the stomach.... to bland, Coonass fish head and rice soup, now thats the ticket. The Greasy pork chops....thats a standard. Bacon works good too! Top things off with a nice Cigar...once you get the weak ones blowing chunks the rest are easy. It also helps if you make wall paper for the head by printing this 100 times: http://www.artlex.com/ArtLex/o/image...circeye_lg.jpg Joe ;o) Joe Porridge. Tastes exactly the same when puked up as when eaten. Dennis. |
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Gogarty wrote: Mythbusters did a piece recently on non-prescription (over the counter) antidotes to seasickness. It included those wrist bands, various concoctions and ginger. Only ginger worked. We always carry ginger root on board as well as ginger beer (not ginger ale). The prescription drugs also worked but left people drowsy or even spaced out. On that same show they tested 2 people and 1 said that the drug that worked best was the placebo (sugar pill). Of course when they tested him, they told him that it was a new drug and he didn't get sick at all. That tells me for some it is a mind game. If you feel relaxed and believe it what you are taking will cure you, you will be fine. I have horrible memories as a child, first time out far and getting really sick. It stuck with me for awhile, until one day, someone I was fishing with started to get sick and I was laughing (which is customary on a fishing boat) and for some reason I haven't gotten sick since. I don't know if seeing someone else get sick and laughing took my mind off it long enough for me to forget my fear or what, but I do fine now (of course I'll go out tomorrow and barf my brains out now that I made this public). |
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FishinJC wrote: The prescription drugs also worked but left people drowsy or even spaced out. In all these post the one thing that i have not read is a quantitative description of the sea state (that's using numbers for all the sailing.asa readers). So a drug left people drowsy or even spaced out. Personally after heaving my guts out for two days then totally dehydrated and incapacitated for days 3&4 I would most certainly take the drowsy and even spaced out option. Granted the sea state that caused my marathon puke fest was extreme. So take the drugs and get er dun. On that same show they tested 2 people and 1 said that the drug that worked best was the placebo (sugar pill). Of course when they tested him, they told him that it was a new drug and he didn't get sick at all. That tells me for some it is a mind game. If you feel relaxed and believe it what you are taking will cure you, you will be fine. This is an excellent point................ What is the expected placebo effect for any given sample/study group? Cant remember but I think the folks who submit to the NJM mentioned, maybe 6%-12% of people are head cases. Anybody know the typical expected placebo effect for humans? Bob |
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Sea state matters, as does the size of the vessel in the sea state. Even
so, the first cruise I ever took with my wife to be was a large passenger ship where the sea state was mill pond. She was very, very sick. But that was it. Our honeymoon was eleven days at sea on an even larger ship in some horrendous weather where the ship clnaged like a gong and we have been sailing on our own boat for years. Never another problem for either of us thugh we have had the occasional guest for whom the day was no fun at all. Even busted up one romance. He got sick; she did not. |
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On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:40:36 -0400, Gogarty
wrote: Sea state matters, as does the size of the vessel in the sea state. And the type and amplitude of motion that the vessel generates. There are 40 footers with a very solid motion and there are others that generate a weird cork screw effect. Guess which one is worse, I'm getting queasy just thinking about it. |
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Wayne.B wrote in
: My trawler has stabilizers, send her to SWFL. In your dreams.....(c; |
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"Bill Kearney" wrote in
t: Yeah, bent over is one thing, bent over and hurling their guts up just doesn't qualify as a turn-on. I was driving the Amel under sail around the harbor, on another nice day cruise. She laid on her belly on a towel up under the main in front of me on the port side. I wouldn't have even notice our collision course with a 950' containership, especially after she released the clip on the back of that metallic green top! "Oh, look! Is that the emergency tiller?!"......(c; |
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"Solo Thesailor" wrote in
oups.com: keep drinking This is what usually makes me sick before we drag ourselves out and untie the damned boat in the first place....(c; Party....party.....dock party.... |
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Martin Baxter wrote in :
Get some Gravol, best stuff on the planet, but you can't get in 'merica. Cheers Marty Great stuff.....unless you want to stay awake... GRAVOL® Preparations Carter Horner Dimenhydrinate Antiemetic - Antivertigo Indications And Clinical Uses: Prevention or relief of motion sickness, radiation sickness, postoperative vomiting, and drug induced nausea and vomiting; it has also been used for the symptomatic relief of nausea and vertigo due to Ménière's disease and other labyrinthine disturbances. Contra-Indications: Glaucoma, chronic lung disease, difficulty in urination due to prostatic hypertrophy. tag_WarningWarnings Manufacturers' Warnings In Clinical States: As dimenhydrinate has a CNS depressant effect, the concomitant use of alcohol should be avoided. Occupational Hazards: Patients receiving dimenhydrinate should be cautioned against operating automobiles or dangerous machinery because of drowsiness associated with the drug. If drowsiness is excessive, dosage should be reduced. Adverse Reactions: Drowsiness may be experienced by some patients, especially at high dosages. Dizziness may also occur. Symptoms of dry mouth, lassitude, excitement (especially in children) and nausea have been reported." |
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Gogarty wrote in
: left people drowsy or even spaced out. Hell, that describes 70% of the people on any dock...(c; |
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Larry wrote: "Bill Kearney" wrote in t: Yeah, bent over is one thing, bent over and hurling their guts up just doesn't qualify as a turn-on. I was driving the Amel under sail around the harbor, on another nice day cruise. She laid on her belly on a towel up under the main in front of me on the port side. I wouldn't have even notice our collision course with a 950' containership, especially after she released the clip on the back of that metallic green top! I think I have seen the picture of her on her back titled "two point navigation system" ... :{)) L8R |
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"Don White" wrote in message ... DSK wrote: "Scotty" wrote: I have a non-boating friend who's going on a cruise next week. He's concerned about seasickness. I told him ginger is a good cure. I bought him a box of Ginger Snaps ( more for a joke ). Should he start munching on these before he steps onboard or wait till / if he feels bad? Wait at least until the boat starts rocking, but not necessarily until that old queasy feeling sets in. Ginger ale also works nicely, although if you overdo it, the carbonation is bad. "Wayne.B" wrote The one remedy which works for just avout everyone and is clinically proven: http://www.prevent-motion-sickness-scopolamine.com/ Yeah but they have side effects. Capt. JG wrote: The patches work for me, but they make me unusually thirsty... more than I can stand, sort of like feeling that I've been marching in desert conditions, so I don't use them. Plus they can give you a hangover worse than tequila. And it seems to hit some people really hard, I went on a charter trip with a girl years ago who was practically in a coma from her scopolamine patches. She slept for 40 hours straight and it took over a week to get out of her system. Fresh Breezes- Doug King The first time we sailed 30nm down the coast to our 'summer club' I took the patch. Man did I get drowsy. When we got home around 2200 hrs I flopped into the bed and didn't wake up till the next afternoon. That never happens to me. I was completely wiped. I've had an unpleasant experience with these as well. Didn't eat any dinner before the 80 mile offshore cruise (no use wasting it) and used a full patch. Did I ever get dizzy, phew. Burning sensation in mouth as well. Now I'm only 140 pounds and with no dinner I guess I was overdosed. I've heard you should cut them in half for children. Didn't use anything on the way back and was fine. Never again. |
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"Scotty" wrote in message ... I have a non-boating friend who's going on a cruise next week. He's concerned about seasickness. I told him ginger is a good cure. I bought him a box of Ginger Snaps ( more for a joke ). Should he start munching on these before he steps onboard or wait till / if he feels bad? I'll add my opinion to all the rest. Seasickness is 50% physical and 50% in the mind. It is triggered by confusion between the signals from the eyes and ears(balance). The treatment for the physical 50% is easy. Get Stugeron. Take *half* a tablet one hour before setting sail. A whole tablet seems to cause uncomfortable drowsiness. The treatment for the "in the mind" side is also quite simple. Look at the horizon .... this will synchronise the signals from the eyes and ears. On a sailboat, this is easy. However, on a cruise ship this will be a bit more difficult. If it is at all rough, then you should stay on the upper decks where you can look at the horizon if your stomach begins to feel a bit funny. After the first 24 hours the problem is likely to dissappear. I can get seasick in a very short time. However, I have always managed to prevent the decent into hell by getting onto deck quickly, and concentrating on the horizon. If I get on deck quickly enough, I am fully recovered in under a minute. I once took 20 minutes .... and it was touch and go for most of it!! Enjoy your (non-boating friend's) cruise. Regards Donal -- |
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"Donal" wrote in message
... "Scotty" wrote in message ... I have a non-boating friend who's going on a cruise next week. He's concerned about seasickness. I told him ginger is a good cure. I bought him a box of Ginger Snaps ( more for a joke ). Should he start munching on these before he steps onboard or wait till / if he feels bad? I'll add my opinion to all the rest. Seasickness is 50% physical and 50% in the mind. It is triggered by confusion between the signals from the eyes and ears(balance). The treatment for the physical 50% is easy. Get Stugeron. Take *half* a tablet one hour before setting sail. A whole tablet seems to cause uncomfortable drowsiness. The treatment for the "in the mind" side is also quite simple. Look at the horizon .... this will synchronise the signals from the eyes and ears. On a sailboat, this is easy. However, on a cruise ship this will be a bit more difficult. If it is at all rough, then you should stay on the upper decks where you can look at the horizon if your stomach begins to feel a bit funny. After the first 24 hours the problem is likely to dissappear. I can get seasick in a very short time. However, I have always managed to prevent the decent into hell by getting onto deck quickly, and concentrating on the horizon. If I get on deck quickly enough, I am fully recovered in under a minute. I once took 20 minutes .... and it was touch and go for most of it!! Enjoy your (non-boating friend's) cruise. Regards Donal -- I once puked coming through the companion way on my way to the side. Another time, I got puked on when someone else should have stayed topside but decided to go below. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Donal" wrote in message ... I'll add my opinion to all the rest. Seasickness is 50% physical and 50% in the mind. It is triggered by confusion between the signals from the eyes and ears(balance). The times I have been seasick, it was when I didn't get enough rest before getting underway. The previous day were spent running hither and yon for the last minute provisioning, rechecking the boat, and of course the bon voyage party. I know this varies from the original post about the cruise ship, but getting a lot of rest and a good night's sleep before going aboard will help as they will be well rested. I had a friend who would leave the dock and go to first anchorage close by, out of sight of the marina, drop the hook and go to bed. He would get up at first light and then start his voyage. Leanne s/v Fundy |
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"Donal" wrote Seasickness is 50% physical and 50% in the mind. It is triggered by confusion between the signals from the eyes and ears(balance). The treatment for the physical 50% is easy. Get Stugeron. Take *half* a tablet one hour before setting sail. A whole tablet seems to cause uncomfortable drowsiness. The treatment for the "in the mind" side is also quite simple. Look at the horizon .... this will synchronise the signals from the eyes and ears. On a sailboat, this is easy. However, on a cruise ship this will be a bit more difficult. If it is at all rough, then you should stay on the upper decks where you can look at the horizon if your stomach begins to feel a bit funny. After the first 24 hours the problem is likely to dissappear. I can get seasick in a very short time. However, I have always managed to prevent the decent into hell by getting onto deck quickly, and concentrating on the horizon. If I get on deck quickly enough, I am fully recovered in under a minute. I once took 20 minutes .... and it was touch and go for most of it!! Enjoy your (non-boating friend's) cruise. Thanks, I will. Scotty |
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"Skip Gundlach" wrote in
ups.com: I think I have seen the picture of her on her back titled "two point navigation system" ... "Navigator's Pointing Device for lining up the boat to closely sail around a race bouy. You can move the girl to account for tide current drift or the side slipping of the keel in heavy winds. No, this is when she's laying on her belly in front of the helm always with her head towards the bow so she can look up and see where we're going. The view from the helm will take your breath away in that thong.....(c; It's 1AM....Now how am I supposed to get to sleep thinking these evil thoughts?? |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in
: I once puked coming through the companion way on my way to the side. Another time, I got puked on when someone else should have stayed topside but decided to go below. Too much information!! TOO MUCH INFORMATION!!...... Yecch.... |
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"Leanne" wrote in :
I had a friend who would leave the dock and go to first anchorage close by, out of sight of the marina, drop the hook and go to bed. He would get up at first light and then start his voyage. I also know someone who does this, but it has to do more with Girlfriend v2.0 and Wife v1.6 than it does with Seasickness v4.5. I've seen him heading out as we passed him in his cockpit and he looked like he hadn't had any sleep at all.... |
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The worst sea sickness I ever experienced was twenty years ago during a
sail from SF Bay to Drakes Bay as part of coastal navigation class. Foolishly, I had done pretty much everything one shouldn't do: I'd been out drinking the night before, ate a greasy meal, didn't get enough sleep and didn't bring warm clothes. We had long Alaskan swells off the starboard bow on the way up. I realized I was starting to not feel well but needed to use the head. I went below and by the time I finished I was green. I began throwing up everything I'd ever eaten in my life. When there was nothing left in my stomach I then alternated between dry retching and vomiting bile. Now at that time I did not know that bile was supposed to be bright green, like antifreeze. Seeing that made me worry I was going to die, because obviously nothing that color should come out of a person. After an hour of this I greatly feared I was going to die. After the second hour I greatly feared I wasn't going to die. In fact, I would have welcomed it. The minute we arrived at Drakes Bay and anchored in calm water I was fine. I've cruised a lot since then, and find that without the aid of sea sickness drugs I'm usually unhappy for the first day or two, sometimes I'll get sick, feel "not great" for the next two days after that, and then am fine for the rest of the cruise. I have tried "Sturgeron Retard" (that's the name on the box) that I bought in Mexico and found it useful for keeping me from getting sick for the first few days. It did make me drowsy and cause dry mouth, but nothing too serious. Other than that I found just about all of the home remedies useless except for the obvious: plenty of rest, warm clothes, light foods, no recreational drugs or alcohol, and a good frame of mind. Cheers, Robb Leanne wrote: "Donal" wrote in message ... I'll add my opinion to all the rest. Seasickness is 50% physical and 50% in the mind. It is triggered by confusion between the signals from the eyes and ears(balance). The times I have been seasick, it was when I didn't get enough rest before getting underway. The previous day were spent running hither and yon for the last minute provisioning, rechecking the boat, and of course the bon voyage party. I know this varies from the original post about the cruise ship, but getting a lot of rest and a good night's sleep before going aboard will help as they will be well rested. I had a friend who would leave the dock and go to first anchorage close by, out of sight of the marina, drop the hook and go to bed. He would get up at first light and then start his voyage. Leanne s/v Fundy |
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Don White wrote:
Scotty wrote: I have a non-boating friend who's going on a cruise next week. He's concerned about seasickness. I told him ginger is a good cure. I bought him a box of Ginger Snaps ( more for a joke ). Should he start munching on these before he steps onboard or wait till / if he feels bad? SBV In addition to ginger snaps, you can use ginger candy (from someplace like the Vermont Country Store), and my mom used to swear by Canada Dry Ginger Ale, which she said was the only REAL ginger ale - don't know if it still is. You have to look at the ingredients to see if it has ginger in it. My husband swears by saltines (which he ate when he was on a destroyer in rough seas). I like hot tea with it. I'd start munching just before I left. If he's on a big cruise ship, I doubt he's be feeling the same way he would on a 33 foot sailboat with 5 foot swells on an aft quarter that might make you pitch, yaw & roll. There are people that get sick even on the big cruise ships - the motion on them is more unpleasant than on a sailboat IMHO. I lot of roll - more than what we get especially if we put up a balancing sail. Too much motion to fill the pool (it would all splash out) and sometimes the forward elevators don't work. If they use stabilizers (when they have them) it slows them down. It doesn't bother me particularly, although if it is really rough I can't read without getting a headache, and I get a little sleepy. But there are a lot of people who get room service, or don't eat at all. However, the cruise ship doctor will have a patch for anyone who needs it. |
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"AMPowers" wrote in message
... The worst sea sickness I ever experienced was twenty years ago during a sail from SF Bay to Drakes Bay as part of coastal navigation class. Foolishly, I had done pretty much everything one shouldn't do: I'd been out drinking the night before, ate a greasy meal, didn't get enough sleep and didn't bring warm clothes. We had long Alaskan swells off the starboard bow on the way up. I realized I was starting to not feel well but needed to use the head. I went below and by the time I finished I was green. I began throwing up everything I'd ever eaten in my life. When there was nothing left in my stomach I then alternated between dry retching and vomiting bile. Now at that time I did not know that bile was supposed to be bright green, like antifreeze. Seeing that made me worry I was going to die, because obviously nothing that color should come out of a person. After an hour of this I greatly feared I was going to die. After the second hour I greatly feared I wasn't going to die. In fact, I would have welcomed it. The minute we arrived at Drakes Bay and anchored in calm water I was fine. I've cruised a lot since then, and find that without the aid of sea sickness drugs I'm usually unhappy for the first day or two, sometimes I'll get sick, feel "not great" for the next two days after that, and then am fine for the rest of the cruise. I have tried "Sturgeron Retard" (that's the name on the box) that I bought in Mexico and found it useful for keeping me from getting sick for the first few days. It did make me drowsy and cause dry mouth, but nothing too serious. Other than that I found just about all of the home remedies useless except for the obvious: plenty of rest, warm clothes, light foods, no recreational drugs or alcohol, and a good frame of mind. Cheers, Robb The turning point for me has always been when I would rather die than not die. Then, I start to feel better. :-) Speaking of which... I'm off to go sailing in and out of the SF bay today and tomorrow. I don't think we'll get as far as Drakes, since it's a class. :-) -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Donal" wrote:
My advice first of all for your friend would be - find a place to go out on a boat in rough weather and see how you feel. How do you feel on roller coasters and other amusement rides. If you can do those things, you probably won't get sick on a cruise ship. "Scotty" wrote in message .. . I have a non-boating friend who's going on a cruise next week. He's concerned about seasickness. I told him ginger is a good cure. I bought him a box of Ginger Snaps ( more for a joke ). Should he start munching on these before he steps onboard or wait till / if he feels bad? I'll add my opinion to all the rest. Seasickness is 50% physical and 50% in the mind. It is triggered by confusion between the signals from the eyes and ears(balance). The treatment for the physical 50% is easy. Get Stugeron. Take *half* a tablet one hour before setting sail. A whole tablet seems to cause uncomfortable drowsiness. The treatment for the "in the mind" side is also quite simple. Look at the horizon .... this will synchronise the signals from the eyes and ears. On a sailboat, this is easy. However, on a cruise ship this will be a bit more difficult. If it is at all rough, then you should stay on the upper decks where you can look at the horizon if your stomach begins to feel a bit funny. After the first 24 hours the problem is likely to dissappear. I have only gotten motion sick a couple of times - once I had an earache and was reading in the car. I've been on a ferry crossing the English channel where the waves were crashing over the bow and virtually everyone else was sick except me and my mom (my dad was sick). My mom got us a seat where it was warm but by a window and we drank hot tea. My grandson who is out in his dad's power boat a lot, fishing, was on our boat while we were bashing into the waves. There are fixed portholes in the bow, and all the little boys (3 grandsons) were up in the V birth watching the water splash over the portholes. They thought it was an exciting thrill ride. This grandson got bored of it though, and lay down on the floor to play with his Gameboy - and promptly got sick. Lost all his cred with his cousins. My son was getting queasy in the cockpit, but he couldn't take my husband's usual remedy (saltines) because he'd just had his tonsils out, and his throat was very sore. I can get seasick in a very short time. However, I have always managed to prevent the decent into hell by getting onto deck quickly, and concentrating on the horizon. If I get on deck quickly enough, I am fully recovered in under a minute. I once took 20 minutes .... and it was touch and go for most of it!! One of the first times we went out on our boat we were going south from the Patuxent to the Potomac and there was a south wind which had been blowing for some time. We left about 10 - it was a cold April day. The tide was going out (against the wind) and the boat was banging into the square waves and taking green water over the bow. I was at the wheel, and I did start to get a little queasy, but Bob kept saying that being at the helm was the best thing for me. At one point the anchor came loose and was banging up and down on the bow. Bob had to go out and secure it. We didn't have any jacklines, and I knew if he went overboard I couldn't get him back, but he hung on tight and did the job. He also had to go out a little later and take down the staysail. Finally about 3:30 in the afternoon, I said to him - you HAVE to take the wheel, I can't do this anymore. So he did. I dropped a pencil, and leaned over to pick it up, and had an moment of intense nausea (but did not throw up), and then when I sat up, it all went away and I was completely fine. I think the uneasy feeling I had been experiencing was nervous tension from having to hand steer for that length of time. Enjoy your (non-boating friend's) cruise. Regards Donal |
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Rosalie B. wrote:
"Donal" wrote: My advice first of all for your friend would be - find a place to go out on a boat in rough weather and see how you feel. How do you feel on roller coasters and other amusement rides. If you can do those things, you probably won't get sick on a cruise ship. "Scotty" wrote in message ... I have a non-boating friend who's going on a cruise next week. He's concerned about seasickness. I told him ginger is a good cure. I bought him a box of Ginger Snaps ( more for a joke ). Should he start munching on these before he steps onboard or wait till / if he feels bad? I'll add my opinion to all the rest. Seasickness is 50% physical and 50% in the mind. It is triggered by confusion between the signals from the eyes and ears(balance). The treatment for the physical 50% is easy. Get Stugeron. Take *half* a tablet one hour before setting sail. A whole tablet seems to cause uncomfortable drowsiness. The treatment for the "in the mind" side is also quite simple. Look at the horizon .... this will synchronise the signals from the eyes and ears. On a sailboat, this is easy. However, on a cruise ship this will be a bit more difficult. If it is at all rough, then you should stay on the upper decks where you can look at the horizon if your stomach begins to feel a bit funny. After the first 24 hours the problem is likely to dissappear. I have only gotten motion sick a couple of times - once I had an earache and was reading in the car. I've been on a ferry crossing the English channel where the waves were crashing over the bow and virtually everyone else was sick except me and my mom (my dad was sick). My mom got us a seat where it was warm but by a window and we drank hot tea. My grandson who is out in his dad's power boat a lot, fishing, was on our boat while we were bashing into the waves. There are fixed portholes in the bow, and all the little boys (3 grandsons) were up in the V birth watching the water splash over the portholes. They thought it was an exciting thrill ride. This grandson got bored of it though, and lay down on the floor to play with his Gameboy - and promptly got sick. Lost all his cred with his cousins. My son was getting queasy in the cockpit, but he couldn't take my husband's usual remedy (saltines) because he'd just had his tonsils out, and his throat was very sore. I can get seasick in a very short time. However, I have always managed to prevent the decent into hell by getting onto deck quickly, and concentrating on the horizon. If I get on deck quickly enough, I am fully recovered in under a minute. I once took 20 minutes .... and it was touch and go for most of it!! One of the first times we went out on our boat we were going south from the Patuxent to the Potomac and there was a south wind which had been blowing for some time. We left about 10 - it was a cold April day. The tide was going out (against the wind) and the boat was banging into the square waves and taking green water over the bow. I was at the wheel, and I did start to get a little queasy, but Bob kept saying that being at the helm was the best thing for me. At one point the anchor came loose and was banging up and down on the bow. Bob had to go out and secure it. We didn't have any jacklines, and I knew if he went overboard I couldn't get him back, but he hung on tight and did the job. He also had to go out a little later and take down the staysail. Finally about 3:30 in the afternoon, I said to him - you HAVE to take the wheel, I can't do this anymore. So he did. I dropped a pencil, and leaned over to pick it up, and had an moment of intense nausea (but did not throw up), and then when I sat up, it all went away and I was completely fine. I think the uneasy feeling I had been experiencing was nervous tension from having to hand steer for that length of time. Enjoy your (non-boating friend's) cruise. Regards Donal Only times I have ever gotten queasy on a boat was in extreme heat and humidity with lolling, glassy seas...rough weather usually provides enough activity that you don't have time to sit and think about being seasick...object is focus...if you focus on doing something, it will alleviate the situation.... |
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Donal wrote:
Seasickness is 50% physical and 50% in the mind. It is triggered by confusion between the signals from the eyes and ears(balance). Snip The treatment for the "in the mind" side is also quite simple. Look at the horizon .... this will synchronise the signals from the eyes and ears. On a sailboat, this is easy. However, on a cruise ship this will be a bit more difficult. If it is at all rough, then you should stay on the upper decks where you can look at the horizon if your ?stomach begins to feel a bit funny. After the first 24 hours the problem is likely to dissappear. When I got seasick the first time I was working on a small (303') top-heavy ship for NOAA going across the Atlantic. I found that after about 6 or 7 days of misery that if I was below decks I could just defocus my eyes when going down a passageway - just sort of look at nothing, and the sickness would go away. After awhile of doing that it became habit and never got seasick again. |
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"AMPowers" wrote Now at that time I did not know that bile was supposed to be bright green, like antifreeze. Seeing that made me worry I was going to die, because obviously nothing that color should come out of a person. Hahahaha, kinda like the first time one eats fresh beets... Seahag (Never puked but came close after 36 hours on a small boat in a hurricane with someone who did non-stop in the galley sink.) |
Hypnosis for Seasickness - was Seasickness
Thank you Sailaway. I will search for a good hypnotherapist and do it. Additionally it would be great to have other people get the treatment too so that collectively we might work towards a good cure. Just imagine....how fantastic that would be! BTW don't you differentiate hypnotherapists (fix problems, subject fully conscious) from hypnotists? Would you need repeat sessions every few years? How best do I find a good one? Any reports from hypnotherapists/hypnotists/nueropsychologists? Any of you are sailors?? Vance, Vance, Vance....come in please, any take on this? Any stories? From: Vance E. Lear - view profile Date: Sun, Sep 28 1997 12:00 am Groups: alt.sailing.asa Hypnosis can be very effective in suppressing "Sea Sickness" without undesirable side-effects. The problem is in finding a "hypnotist" who has the slighttest idea of what theyare doing. Vance E. Lear, Ph.D., Nueropsychology. Solo Thesailor http://sailingstoriesandtips.blogspot.com |
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"Scotty" ***crossposted*** this message ... Now what were you two saying about killfiling anyone who intentionally crossposts a message? Hmm, let's see on this thread the asa regulars that should be in you guys' killfile: Scotty Katy Seahag Donal Capt. JG (Jonathan Ganz) Joe DSK (Doug King) Maxprop Peter Wiley John Cairns Scout Martin Baxter My, my, that's a long list. Who will you two sailors talk to anymore? Bobsprit? heheh LP |
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I haven't KF'd you dear..... and basically... I really only do talk to
Bobsprit.... unless some rank n00b waltzes in thinkin' they're too cool... mistakes me for a target.... and gets they're ass handed back to them on a platter. :-) Haven't you been reading my posts? I know I haven't been on a lot... but I've been boxing Bobsprit's ears with only an occasional pause to bitch slap the johnny come lately with the Morgan handle. Other than that... working on the boat and getting ready to launch. How are you doing? CM "Lady Pilot" wrote in message news:SEIrg.25692$8q.14833@dukeread08... "Scotty" ***crossposted*** this message ... Now what were you two saying about killfiling anyone who intentionally crossposts a message? Hmm, let's see on this thread the asa regulars that should be in you guys' killfile: Scotty Katy Seahag Donal Capt. JG (Jonathan Ganz) Joe DSK (Doug King) Maxprop Peter Wiley John Cairns Scout Martin Baxter My, my, that's a long list. Who will you two sailors talk to anymore? Bobsprit? heheh LP |
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"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message news:D_Xrg.128864$S61.9692@edtnps90... and gets they're ass handed back to them on a platter. :-) I want to spank you with a big rubber paddle. Lloyd |
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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message I must have missed that. No Doubt.... it seems a chronic condition for you! CM- |
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"LLoyd Bonafide" wrote in message . .. "Capt.Mooron" wrote in message news:D_Xrg.128864$S61.9692@edtnps90... and gets they're ass handed back to them on a platter. :-) I want to spank you with a big rubber paddle. Yes Lloyd.... I'm certain you would! CM- |
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"Capt.Mooron" wrote: I haven't KF'd you dear..... and basically... I really only do talk to Bobsprit.... unless some rank n00b waltzes in thinkin' they're too cool... mistakes me for a target.... and gets they're ass handed back to them on a platter. :-) Surely you aren't talking about the sweet new guy Charlie, are you? ;-) I think it's time for a group hug. I could be the mediator and be between you both! Haven't you been reading my posts? Always! You are most entertaining when you've been drinking. I can always count on you for laughs. Scout, Martin, Oz and of course Crantz are pretty funny too. I know I haven't been on a lot... but I've been boxing Bobsprit's ears with only an occasional pause to bitch slap the johnny come lately with the Morgan handle. group hug Other than that... working on the boat and getting ready to launch. Very nice! Do you have all of your fur blankets on board yet? How are you doing? I've been doing really good, until I had this little mishap at the gym. I've been working out 5 or 6 times a week and a large piece of equipment feel and crushed my knee. I went to see my friend who is an ortho surgeon who was all hugs as soon as I came in to the room. The nurse was really giving me the looks! :-) The doc put me on steroids for 5 days and then painkillers. Do you think 5 days of steroids is enough to turn the woman into a man? Ganz needs to know! hehee That was over 2 weeks ago and the gym's insurance hasn't returned repeated calls. I guess I'm going to have to get an attorney, or Dave to help me do it pro se. LP |
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"Charlie Morgan" wrote: On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 00:18:00 GMT, "Capt.Mooron" wrote: "Charlie Morgan" wrote in message I must have missed that. No Doubt.... it seems a chronic condition for you! CM- Oh! No you've really wounded me! Help! Help! CWM You two are going to have to take a time out of the sand box here if you don't be nice! ;-) LP |
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"Capt.Mooron" wrote: "LLoyd Bonafide" wrote: "Capt.Mooron" wrote: and gets they're ass handed back to them on a platter. :-) I want to spank you with a big rubber paddle. Yes Lloyd.... I'm certain you would! Can I watch? LP |
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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message ... On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 00:18:00 GMT, "Capt.Mooron" wrote: "Charlie Morgan" wrote in message I must have missed that. No Doubt.... it seems a chronic condition for you! CM- Oh! No you've really wounded me! Help! Help! Much Better.... at least you're learning your place in the food chain. CM- |
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"Capt.Mooron" wrote: "Charlie Morgan" wrote: On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 00:18:00 GMT, "Capt.Mooron" wrote: "Charlie Morgan" wrote in message I must have missed that. No Doubt.... it seems a chronic condition for you! CM- Oh! No you've really wounded me! Help! Help! Much Better.... at least you're learning your place in the food chain. So what are you saying, Captain? Do you eat everything? hehee LP (the blonde act) |
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