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Doing some housecleaning on board, Suzanne spotted this little guy in
the head sink. I admit I posed him on the dime, but they he ran off. Good luck on a boat even when they're this tiny! D70 with Tamron 90mm DI Macro lens, F/22 at 250th sec http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/dimeweby.jpg RB 35s5 NY |
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Capt. Rob wrote: Doing some housecleaning on board, Suzanne spotted this little guy in the head sink. I admit I posed him on the dime, but they he ran off. Good luck on a boat even when they're this tiny! D70 with Tamron 90mm DI Macro lens, F/22 at 250th sec http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/dimeweby.jpg RB 35s5 NY Rob's and family are in for a good time when that baby spider and it's 100's of un-seen brothers and sisters mature. Check out the picture of his father on a diime http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/ent/no...an/recluse.htm Joe |
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"katy" wrote in message ... Joe wrote: Capt. Rob wrote: Doing some housecleaning on board, Suzanne spotted this little guy in the head sink. I admit I posed him on the dime, but they he ran off. Good luck on a boat even when they're this tiny! D70 with Tamron 90mm DI Macro lens, F/22 at 250th sec http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/dimeweby.jpg RB 35s5 NY Rob's and family are in for a good time when that baby spider and it's 100's of un-seen brothers and sisters mature. Check out the picture of his father on a diime http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/ent/no...an/recluse.htm Joe Bon's baby spider is too glassy to be a recluse.... Absolutely... I believe it's a Mimic.... they favour imitation as a defence technique. I'm certain it feels quite at home on Bobsprit's boat ... since his vessel also imitates a much more formidable boat. Although capable of much bravado... once exposed or cornered they run for cover... again much like Bobsprit. I'm certain the transparency or glassiness speaks volumes... never mind the attraction to imitation woodgrain. CM- |
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Focus needed to be back enough to be on the spiders head not on the
edge of the dime.....good effort otherwise. Look again, Ozzy. The forlegs are soft, just as the dime edge is. Focus is dead on the eyes. I used Unsharp Mask selective to add the depth. RB 35s5 NY |
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OzOne wrote:
On 5 Jun 2006 15:37:42 -0700, "Capt. Rob" scribbled thusly: Focus needed to be back enough to be on the spiders head not on the edge of the dime.....good effort otherwise. Look again, Ozzy. The forlegs are soft, just as the dime edge is. Focus is dead on the eyes. I used Unsharp Mask selective to add the depth. RB 35s5 NY Sorry Bob, the upper foreleg left of frame is in perfect focus and is exactly same depth as the dime edge centre frame. Head is slightly behind that and is not in focus. Notice the blurring of the palp and the reflections on the 'face'. Find the little critter and try again...still a good effort though. Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. Next time he could superglue it to the dime so he'd have time to get his settings straight... |
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Notice the blurring of the palp and the reflections on the 'face'. Find the little critter and try again...still a good effort though. Sorry for you, Ozzy. But it's clear that my post abilities were able to fool you nicely. The edge of the dime is not in focus. It's been sharpened using USM settings. A quick look at the legs at the edge of the coin easily show this. I can send you the original file if you like. Also...you might want to refrain from judging focus on a 109K file. No one on Nikonians can do it and neither can you. But I know you'll just keep saying otherwise so I'll prove it to you quick and easy. You have a LOT to learn about digital images and how to tweak them: 170% Crop of eyes. Look at the hairs and pixel depth, Ozzy. Quite easy to see, and quite sharp at this massive crop thanks to the sharpest lens around. You don't get 3 pixel wide hairs at 170% unless it's sharp, Ozzy. http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/face.jpg Now here is the same crop (actually 185%) of the leg at the edge of the dime...unaltered. Depending on your setup, these thumbnails are small, but you can barely resolve the hairs on the leg. It's soft. Impirt these pics into a viewer to enlarge them. http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/face.jpg As one follows the leg hairs back to the mandibles they become sharper, and pixel depth drops. Hope this helps....but I somehow doubt it. RB 35s5 NY RB 35s5 NY |
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Ahhhh, now I get it...you take lousy pictures and fix em up later..... That's OK, One day youll be able to post unedited pics and be proud of them. Like I said, Ozzy....you have a LOT to learn. Here's some more help....shoot in RAW (Or Nikon's NEF) and you must apply USM in most cases as in camera sharpening is defeated. This is how pro's work, setting USM up for their workflow. In macro work, with shallow DOF USM is usually not applied selectively, but I wanted the dime edge to be sharper...and it worked. The point is that you had NO IDEA where the focus point was and I've proven it. Still worse, you failed to understand the most elemental fact in that a shot downsized by 500% can't be judged much for sharpness. Of course posting the crop from the original shot proved it was sharp once and for all. Here's a hint: Even your Canon (not known to be a sharp camera due to the anti-aliasing filter) is conservative for ICS and you will probably be astonished by applying USM to retrieve detail. Hope this helps...but I SERIOUSLY doubt it! RB 35s5 NY |
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Bet you're glad digital came along....you'd be totally stuffed with film eh!? Uh, yeah...cuz Ansel Adams never edited, cropped or dodged images or even curled negatives to get his results! Bwahahahahahahaha! Ozzy, you're really grasping, dude. EVERY pro edits their images. With DSLRs you have no choice because out of auto mode, key components are designed to be worked in post. I have a pretty good feeling you don't even own a DSLR and if you do, quite clearly you don't know hot to use it. Your comments prove that beyond all doubt. Know what the native contrast settings are for your Canon? Not likely! Now I know why you've never posted more tha few pics and why they're all P&S quality. Get back to me with a shot like this and we can talk. http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/spider2.jpg RB 35s5 NY |
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Bet you're glad digital came along....you'd be totally stuffed with film eh!? Uh, yeah...cuz Ansel Adams never edited, cropped or dodged images or even curled negatives to get his results! Bwahahahahahahaha! Ozzy, you're really grasping, dude. EVERY pro edits their images. With DSLRs you have no choice because out of auto mode, key components are designed to be worked in post. I have a pretty good feeling you don't even own a DSLR and if you do, quite clearly you don't know hot to use it. Your comments prove that beyond all doubt. Know what the native contrast settings are for your Canon? Not likely! Now I know why you've never posted more tha few pics and why they're all P&S quality. Get back to me with a shot like this and we can talk. http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/spider2.jpg RB 35s5 NY |
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Bet you're glad digital came along....you'd be totally stuffed with film eh!? Uh, yeah...cuz Ansel Adams never edited, cropped or dodged images or even curled negatives to get his results! Bwahahahahahahaha! Ozzy, you're really grasping, dude. EVERY pro edits their images. With DSLRs you have no choice because out of auto mode, key components are designed to be worked in post. I have a pretty good feeling you don't even own a DSLR and if you do, quite clearly you don't know hot to use it. Your comments prove that beyond all doubt. Know what the native contrast settings are for your Canon? Not likely! Now I know why you've never posted more tha few pics and why they're all P&S quality. Get back to me with a shot like this and we can talk. http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/spider2.jpg RB 35s5 NY |
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Note that Ozzy had no interest in seeing the orginal shot. "Spare me the proof, here's what I think!" His is a fragile little world! Ahh well... RB 35s5 NY |
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Go on Bob....post the original.
I won't laugh at it. I can't post a 5 meg image... I can send it to you and I CLEARLY said that. Even so, the crops from the original already proved you were 100% wrong and then you further exposed yourself by claiming tweaking an image is not part of shooting with a DSLR. Golly, I wonder what workflow tools like Capture and PS are for!!!? Could it be because DSLRs are not designed for out-of-camera results? Uh...Ozzy didn't know! He probably connects the Canon directly to his printer. Hey, guess what, folks! Scientific American, American History Magazine and Sports Illustrated don't edit pics in post!!! Yeah, right! Ozzy, you didn't just step in it...you fell face first and inhaled about a gallon! RB 35s5 NY |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... Go on Bob....post the original. I won't laugh at it. I can't post a 5 meg image... I can send it to you and I CLEARLY said that. Even so, the crops from the original already proved you were 100% wrong and then you further exposed yourself by claiming tweaking an image is not part of shooting with a DSLR. Golly, I wonder what workflow tools like Capture and PS are for!!!? Could it be because DSLRs are not designed for out-of-camera results? Uh...Ozzy didn't know! He probably connects the Canon directly to his printer. Hey, guess what, folks! Scientific American, American History Magazine and Sports Illustrated don't edit pics in post!!! Yeah, right! Ozzy, you didn't just step in it...you fell face first and inhaled about a gallon! Dunno, Bubbles. He's been posting two- to four-line responses, and you've been posting megaparagraphic explanations of myriad pseudotechnical details and semiexplanatory drivel . . . yada, yada . . . I think he's got your number, and you don't like it. Truth hurts, dunnit? And where's the photo of you in your STI??? Okay, I'll accept a photo of Thomas sitting in the driver's seat, or even Suzy reclining on the hood. Your choice. Max |
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OzOne wrote: Go on Bob....post the original. I won't laugh at it. But please no editing to prove some point you need to make ;-) Hey OZ here is an un-doctored well shot photograph of a spider. No photoshop needed if you have the proper equipment. http://www.ski.org/Vision/Eyepage/Im...etcastingB.jpg Joe Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
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Dunno, Bubbles. He's been posting two- to four-line responses, LOL, Maxi....look at the title of the thread. It's posted in a sailing group, just like my Kia, telescope and home theatre threads. I've got Ozzy yammering about a spider shot. I was hoping for Mooron, but Ozzy is a close second. What do you suppose motivates me to post them? I'll give you an example later today! Gee, have I gone on too long with this response? Who knew that meant something!? RB 35s5 NY |
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Well done Ozone..... finding a nerve under that thick skin and cellulite
was quite an accomplishment! CM OzOne wrote in message ... Hey Bob, no need to get upset....THREE posts.....calm down already! Sheesh...we all know you're not perfect...no need to get upset about it. On 6 Jun 2006 04:13:25 -0700, "Capt. Rob" scribbled thusly: Bet you're glad digital came along....you'd be totally stuffed with film eh!? Uh, yeah...cuz Ansel Adams never edited, cropped or dodged images or even curled negatives to get his results! Bwahahahahahahaha! Ozzy, you're really grasping, dude. EVERY pro edits their images. With DSLRs you have no choice because out of auto mode, key components are designed to be worked in post. I have a pretty good feeling you don't even own a DSLR and if you do, quite clearly you don't know hot to use it. Your comments prove that beyond all doubt. Know what the native contrast settings are for your Canon? Not likely! Now I know why you've never posted more tha few pics and why they're all P&S quality. Get back to me with a shot like this and we can talk. http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/spider2.jpg RB 35s5 NY Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
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That's from the eye page and it has indeed be doctored. All shots are doctored. RB 35s5 NY |
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Capt. Rob wrote: That's from the eye page and it has indeed be doctored. All shots are doctored. My EFIX data on the pictures says it's un-altered Joe RB 35s5 NY |
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My EFIX data on the pictures says it's un-altered
No such thing, Joe. EXIF data does not show post work and none is attached to the pic anyway. Another desperate try from Joe! RB 35s5 NY |
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I have a pretty good feeling you don't even own a DSLR and if you do,
quite clearly you don't know hot to use it. Your comments prove that beyond all doubt. Know what the native contrast settings are for your Canon? Not likely! Now I know why you've never posted more tha few pics and why they're all P&S quality. Get back to me with a shot like this and we can talk. Bubbles, why are you so proud of a picture of a spider? Because you think it's supposed to be fuzzy? OzOne wrote: Hey Bob, no need to get upset....THREE posts.....calm down already! Sheesh...we all know you're not perfect...no need to get upset about it. Don't give him a heart attack Oz1, the poor guy is "differently abled" and has poor self esteem. Hey Bubbles do the voices tell you what kind of camera I have, too? DSK |
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Thom Stewart wrote: Neat Picture Nutsy!! http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage Yup....and it made even better bait! Look at 'em! I even got Doug talking about it fer cripes sake. Can you imagine when my new website goes up next week? It will be my biggest fishing bonanza ever! http://www.britishinvasion.ca/Index_...za%20Party.jpg RB 35s5 NY |
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Capt. Rob wrote:
What do you suppose motivates me to post them? No..., no..., lemme guess.... The desire to show that you can't hold a camera level? The camera focusses, the camera exposes, and you press buttons in software - but you don't know what way is 'up'! -- Capt Scumbalino |
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Capt. Rob wrote: My EFIX data on the pictures says it's un-altered No such thing, Joe. EXIF data does not show post work and none is attached to the pic anyway. Another desperate try from Joe! RB 35s5 NY You do not have the far superior beta version of EFIX like I do. You are not worthy. The photo was cropped, but not altered in any other way. face it bob, it takes complicated software for you to focus properly. You should go back to the basics, your digital work is sloppy and hackish. Joe |
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Rob Terry wrote: ! I didn't post any sopider pictures! Calm down Robcarp... Here.... this one even has a manual, if you study it real hard you might get half a clue: http://cgi.ebay.com/Brown-Leather-KO...QQcmdZViewItem Joe |
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Hey Guys,
Do both of you realize it's Summertime? Time to be sailing! Put the Damn Cameras away and go Sailing. If you take your camera; TAKE SAILING pictures. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage |
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"Capt.Mooron"
http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/ent/no...an/recluse.htm Absolutely... I believe it's a Mimic.... they favour imitation as a defence technique. I'm certain it feels quite at home on Bobsprit's boat ... since his vessel also imitates a much more formidable boat. Although capable of much bravado... once exposed or cornered they run for cover... again much like Bobsprit. I'm certain the transparency or glassiness speaks volumes... never mind the attraction to imitation woodgrain. I dunno, I think it's the dreaded Wilford Brimley spider. http://img218.echo.cx/img218/42/willford6li.jpg Scout |
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Thom Stewart wrote: Hey Guys, Do both of you realize it's Summertime? Time to be sailing! Put the Damn Cameras away and go Sailing. If you take your camera; TAKE SAILING pictures. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage Hey Thom, I can sail everyday and still beat bubble black and blue. It simple with such a blatent lack of photographic skills, and poor choice of a boat. Had a nice mahogany plank planed down to repair my rudder on the La Brisa. Doug gave me the tip to make a new non kick up type rudder, I had to modify the broken aluminum frame to accept the new rudder, but that wasent to hard using a disk grinder. It's going to be stronger and a bit bigger for my heavy wind use. My only concern is the rudder is now going to be a bit over 1/2" thick, the old one was aluminium and only 1/8 inch thick...watta drag huh?. I'm going to taper the leading edge to a knife like sharpness. The wind speed is 0-1 knot right now, and the lake is flat as glass. Joe |
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"Joe" wrote ... I'm going to taper the leading edge to a knife like sharpness. I don't think you want to do that. Scotty |
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Scotty wrote: "Joe" wrote ... I'm going to taper the leading edge to a knife like sharpness. I don't think you want to do that. Scotty How come? Joe |
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OzOne wrote in message Round it off, taper the trailing edge. Joe likes to "shave" with his rudder... :-) CM |
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I'm going to taper the leading edge to a knife like
sharpness. Scotty wrote: I don't think you want to do that. Scotty Joe wrote: How come? This may be counterintuitive, but when the foil (centerboard, keel, or rudder) is working, there is a slight flow across the leading edge. Then remember that it has to cope with big disruptions in the flow, such as when the boat rolls or pitches or turns. The foils are waggling about under water and have anything but ideal flow. The best all-around leading edge shape for a small sailboat is an ellipse, it's relatively easy to achieve & keep and works under a very wide variety of speeds & conditions. There's a *LOT* of stuff written about this, try googling something about leading & trailing edges, NACA foil sections, L/D ratios, and the like. Here's a good section: http://www.nasg.com/afdb/show-airfoil-e.phtml?id=260 Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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OzOne wrote: On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 10:34:51 GMT, "Capt.Mooron" scribbled thusly: OzOne wrote in message Round it off, taper the trailing edge. Joe likes to "shave" with his rudder... :-) CM Either that or his tub spends a lot of time going backwards. It's not a bad tub Ozz. Here in this picture you can see the kick up rudder before the aluminum frame parted. http://image30.webshots.com/30/5/67/...6DdkPsY_ph.jpg I will post a repaired picture soon. With the rounded leading edge and tapered trailing edge :0). I have the material, hopefully tonight I will have the time. Joe Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
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OzOne wrote: On 8 Jun 2006 10:16:08 -0700, "Joe" scribbled thusly: OzOne wrote: On Thu, 08 Jun 2006 10:34:51 GMT, "Capt.Mooron" scribbled thusly: OzOne wrote in message Round it off, taper the trailing edge. Joe likes to "shave" with his rudder... :-) CM Either that or his tub spends a lot of time going backwards. It's not a bad tub Ozz. Here in this picture you can see the kick up rudder before the aluminum frame parted. http://image30.webshots.com/30/5/67/...6DdkPsY_ph.jpg I will post a repaired picture soon. With the rounded leading edge and tapered trailing edge :0). I have the material, hopefully tonight I will have the time. Joe Great toy Joe.....you might even learn to sail :-) I hope so,I've had the boat 8 yrs now...but ...just received my brand new set of ("used once") bumble bee Hood sails. They are black and yellow horz. striped with an albatross symbol on them. Not sure what boat they were made for but they fit the librisa like a zoot suit. Totally cool sails...can't wait!!!!! Loose footed main, and matching RF 100% jib... and HUGE big ass spinnaker. Have a Harken roller furler for the boat. I'm going to go ahead and pull the boat out of the water and fix her nice up for the summer squalls. I got a feeling it's going to be a wild & wet summer. Did you notice the vintage 15 ft immitation birch bark canoe on the dock? It's chopped sprayed fiberglass. Sears & Robuck. Great for windless days. Might go island hopping in Galveston bay this weekend with RedCloud and bring the canoe along to surf the ship wakes next to RedFish Island. Surfers have ridden miles near the trinity bay cut on the ship wakes. Joe Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
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