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Capt. Rob May 23rd 06 11:58 AM

The Door Slams on Maxi's Nose!
 
Yep, Maxi's right! I found "a few" reviews to support the idea of
buying the new luxury van from Kia, even though we could get a Honda
for the same price! Here are just a few! Good work, Maxi!

http://car-reviews.automobile.com/Ki...oad-test/1563/
http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/pw/06sedona.htm
http://www.autobytel.com/content/sha...a/Year_si/2006
http://research.cars.com/go/crp/rese...&year=20 06&r
http://www.epinions.com/pr-2006_Kia_Sedona

Ahhh...here's yet another one from newcartestdrive.com

The all-new Kia Sedona is a great-looking minivan with a V6 engine
having the most power in the class, and a suspension that's second to
none. The interior is well thought out, with standard seven-passenger
seating, easily convertible to a carpeted cargo van, while providing an
abundance of storage compartments. The Sedona lacks nothing, except
all-wheel drive. It sends a clear signal that the Korean carmaker
intends to be a player, and it proves that Kia has the engineering
expertise to build excellent cars.

And Motorweek says....

When introduced for 2002, the first Sedona signaled that Kia was much
more than just a small car builder. Now, with solid engineering, great
safety and versatility, the 2006 Sedona puts Kia among the leaders in
the very demanding minivan segment.

http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/reviews/rt2531b.shtml

Oh, but they go on and on....

http://www.myhonestmechanic.com/arti...a-sedona.shtml

And what do owners have to say....about the highest rated van? 9.7 out
of 10 satisfaction rating!

http://autos.msn.com/research/userre...?modelid=12019
http://www.edmunds.com/new/2006/kia/..._consumer.html

Yep...just a few. Want more, Maxi?

http://autos.yahoo.com/newcars/kia_s...ork%2Fcpc%2FPI

And be sure to read this....
http://www.carseek.com/reviews/?article=3411&page=4

And Kia Lands a Knockout!
http://www.auto123.com/en/info/news/...py?artid=52789

Maxi appears to be reading old issues of Car & Driver and fancies
himself a car enthusiast while driving a 3 series...the bottom of the
BMW barrel. Try my STI, maxi! AWD and 0-60 and grip your sad toy car
can only dream of!



Capt RB
35s5
NY


Capt. Rob May 23rd 06 12:27 PM

The Door Slams on Maxi's Nose!
 
Kia has in the past had a few major dramas, the Carnival sold here
was subject to serious engine seal failure resulting in about 90% of
owners having a new engine fitted under warranty within the first 2
years of ownership.


The 2002-2005 Sedona was a mixed bag here. It offered a lot of value
but had a problem ratio much like the Caravan/Voyager, which is to say
pretty awful. Thus far the new Sedona, using Kia's best engine here,
seems to be a killer van. They are selling a lot, even to previous
Honda and Toyota owners. The Koreans clearly mean business and are
chipping away at the massive Toyota market share. I seriously doubt
that the Sedona will hold up as well as a Sienna. It's too new and has
too many little techno-options, but the warranty should protect that
end. 2009 will see Hyundai/Kia's full on attack on the BMW and Mercedes
mid class. Sadly, the price of the Hyundai-Kia's are not so cheap
anymore. I still think a minivan should be 18-22K being a box on
wheels, so spending 30-40K on one seems crazy. I have to admit that the
loaded Sedona along with the Sienna are truly plush rides though,
easily a match for my Tribeca, but beating the Subaru for power and
features of course.

RB
35s5
NY


DSK May 23rd 06 03:23 PM

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OzOne wrote:
You have made a respectable choice Bubbles.
Kia has in the past had a few major dramas, the Carnival sold here
was subject to serious engine seal failure resulting in about 90% of
owners having a new engine fitted under warranty within the first 2
years of ownership.
Some would find the failures deplorable but the impact has been the
exact opposite here.
Kia sales have jumped because people now realise that they are not a
fly by night operation and stand firmly bhind their prduct.....clad of
course in in a boiler suit to prevent oil stains ruining the execs
fine silk business suits ;-)


If they sell a cheap car and make good on warranty, then it
makes more sense than to buy a "prestige" car which may or
may not work well.

Of course, if Bubbles really bought a Kia then that
automatically makes it a stupid thing to do.



"Capt. Rob" scribbled thusly:
Yep, Maxi's right! I found "a few" reviews to support the idea of
buying the new luxury van from Kia, even though we could get a Honda
for the same price! Here are just a few! Good work, Maxi!


Can't you make a decision without media input, Bubbles? Do
you really think these "reviews" are anything other than
advertising? Are you really modeling your whole life after
'Death Of A Salesman'?

DSK


Capt. Rob May 23rd 06 04:07 PM

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Are you really modeling your whole life after
'Death Of A Salesman'?



Calm down, Biff. You're the guy who had a chance to buy a nice sailboat
and you traded it in for a trawler. I do know someone else who did the
same thing, but he has a plastic and metal knee and the other is
partially fused.

RB
35s5
NY


Capt. Rob May 23rd 06 06:00 PM

The Door Slams on Maxi's Nose!
 
Another drawback is gas mileage, only 15 in the city they
use a LOT of cast iron on the front subframe.


Uh, Joe...you've made a fool of yourself again. You're looking at the
old Sedona, which did in fact suck!
Edmunds gave the 2006 Sedona a good review and the old version got 15
MPG n the city. The new model is all new..gets 17-25 MPG (So far we got
23MPG on the highway) and she's not broken in yet. Other owners are
seeing 25-27 MPG. You got BUSTED AGAIN, Joe!

Here's what your beloved Edmunds has to say....

"We'd faulted the previous-generation Sedona for its
less-than-impressive power and poor gas mileage. This year, Kia
addresses these shortcomings by reducing the van's curb weight by 400
pounds and installing a new 244-hp 3.8-liter V6 under the hood. As a
result, the 2006 Sedona's fuel economy rating is 17 mpg in the city and
25 mpg on the highway, which is a bit better than the 2005 model's
16/22 mpg city/highway. Ride and handling is also improved, thanks to a
new independent rear suspension. With its larger interior, additional
features and improved driving dynamics, the 2006 Kia Sedona no longer
feels the low-cost compromise in the minivan segment.
What Edmunds.com Says
Packed with safety and comfort features and priced less than some
competing minivans, the 2006 Kia Sedona is an excellent choice for
families on a budget.

Pros
Smooth and quiet ride, comfortable interior with lots of cupholders and
storage bins, solid build quality, lengthy warranty coverage.

Cons
Handling and steering response could be better, cramped third row.

What's New for 2006
The Kia Sedona is all-new for 2006. It's longer and wider than its
predecessor, with a nearly 15-percent improvement in passenger room.
Horsepower is up 49 from the previous generation thanks to a new
3.8-liter, 244-hp V6. The Sedona's standard features list has been
expanded to include fold-flat third-row seating; power-sliding doors
and a power liftgate have been added as options. ABS and traction
control are now standard, along with front side airbags and full-length
side curtain airbags for all three rows.


RB
35s5
NY


Bob Crantz May 23rd 06 07:17 PM

The Door Slams on Maxi's Nose!
 
KIA resale value?




DSK May 23rd 06 07:28 PM

The Door Slams on Maxi's Nose!
 
Are you really modeling your whole life after
'Death Of A Salesman'?



"Capt" Rob wrote:
Calm down, Biff. You're the guy who had a chance to buy a nice sailboat
and you traded it in for a trawler.


???

Nice sailboats are bought & sold every day. Therefor one
might sensibly logically assume that I still have "the
chance" to buy one.

As for trading in a sailboat, in the sense of returning one
to a dealer for credit on another purchase, I have never
done that. In fact I have only ever bought one sailboat from
a broker.


... I do know someone else who did the
same thing, but he has a plastic and metal knee and the other is
partially fused.


In your imagination, I'm sure.

DSK


Capt. Rob May 23rd 06 08:17 PM

The Door Slams on Maxi's Nose!
 
same thing, but he has a plastic and metal knee and the other is
partially fused.



In your imagination, I'm sure.


His name is Johnny Perry and he now owns a Grand Banks 42, Doug. She
does close to 20 knots and I've piloted her a couple of times in CT.
Prior to that he owned a Stone Horse (which I sold for him) and a
Ericson Independence 31. He was about to buy the larger Independence
for a restoration project but his knees just got too bad for it.

RB
35s5
NY


katy May 23rd 06 08:17 PM

The Door Slams on Maxi's Nose!
 
Bob Crantz wrote:
KIA resale value?



We sold ours for more than we paid for it...all that means though,
is that there was someone out there who wanted it bad enough...it
was still a tin can and drove hard...wouldm't have wanted to ride in
it farther than the grocery store...

Capt. Rob May 23rd 06 08:20 PM

The Door Slams on Maxi's Nose!
 
KIA resale value?


Not likely to be as good as other makes such as Honda or Toyota. But
we'll keep this as a utility vehicle for a long while as with the
Outback.


RB
35s5
NY


Scotty May 23rd 06 10:32 PM

The Door Slams on Maxi's Nose!
 

"katy" wrote in message
...
Bob Crantz wrote:
KIA resale value?



We sold ours for more than we paid for it...all that means

though,
is that there was someone out there who wanted it bad

enough...it
was still a tin can and drove hard...wouldm't have wanted

to ride in
it farther than the grocery store...


My Son drives his Kia back and forth to Canada regularly.
Has had no problems , so far.

Scotty





Scotty May 23rd 06 10:35 PM

The Door Slams on Maxi's Nose!
 
Soccer Mom KIA wrote....

But
we'll keep this untill Thomas tires
of playing soccer.


RBB
KIA
NY




katy May 23rd 06 11:09 PM

The Door Slams on Maxi's Nose!
 
Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...
Bob Crantz wrote:
KIA resale value?



We sold ours for more than we paid for it...all that means

though,
is that there was someone out there who wanted it bad

enough...it
was still a tin can and drove hard...wouldm't have wanted

to ride in
it farther than the grocery store...


My Son drives his Kia back and forth to Canada regularly.
Has had no problems , so far.

Scotty




We didn't have any problems with it..but then we only owned it for 6
months...I dount if we would have survived a wreck in it, though....

Capt. Rob May 24th 06 12:31 AM

The Door Slams on Maxi's Nose!
 
My Son drives his Kia back and forth to Canada regularly.
Has had no problems , so far.


The little Kia's are death traps. I guess you don't care much about
your son.
Kia Sedona: Rated as the SAFEST MINIVAN tested.


RB
35s5
NY



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