Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

One or two published sources don't constitute the gospel about
anything.

One or two? Max, I thought you were into cars? All sources cite the
Sienna AWD as king of the minivans. The Honda also has the # 1 or 2
spot depending on your needs. Until the Sedona was released nothing
else was even close. EVERY review now lists the Sedona as a top pick as
well....but not ANY others. Please go look at a Nissan Quest and get
back to me!

Did you drive the Toyota and the Honda before you bought the Kia?
Of course
not.

I drove a Sienna for 2 months last year. It was the FWD version and
it's the best minivan made, period. As for the Honda, we test drove it
last week. The reason we didn't buy the Honda is a HUGE number of
problems reported. Read the forums.

The Toyota Highlander 4wd is the best hybrid available today.

We have the van because it's a true seven seater. Please try the back
seats on the Highlander and get back to me!

Too expensive
for ya?

Yeah, that must be it! I knew I shouldn't have paid cash for the boat.

RB
35s5
NY

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

Joe

He's got a fine son. And you?


I'm sure Joe has kids. Any real man is capable of having a
family....just ask Mooron.


RB
35s5
NY

Capt. PUTZ Buys a Kia
 

And this gem;



"Gilligan's Island, CHIPS, Pet Rocks, Dr. Pepper, Jerry
Springer, Kia and Paris
Hilton are all big sellers too.
Me thinks it's the same group of "buyers" for the Mac.


RB


"

Capt. PUTZ Buys a Kia
 

This was clever;

"Kia dealers can rejoice that people like Donal are becoming
more and more
common.


RB

''

Capt. PUTZ Buys a Kia
 

A classic put down;


'' Members in your club drive Yugo's and Kia's as well! ''

Capt. PUTZ Buys a Kia
 

"Kia dealers can rejoice that people like Donal are becoming
more and more
common.



Donal, who passed away recently BTW (skin cancer), was a nice fellow
who sailed a fun fast Beneteau. I'd rather avoid using his name in
posts or trolls, as Scotty does since he's not able to contribute any
longer.


RB
35s5
NY

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

It seems to me, I remember both CR & Motor tend giving good reports over
the years to Edsels, Henry J's, Hudson Hornets, AM Motors, Studerbakers.
Where are they now? Ah Yes I forgot to mention the wonderful De Soto!

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

It seems to me, I remember both CR & Motor tend giving good reports


Car Magazines are a joke and always have been. Consumer Reports is
probably the most laughable when it comes to cars and electronics. But
web based reviewers and forums are allowing for a LOT more research
tools for just about anything. With enough owners reporting in, you can
get an idea about how good a product is. I've found this a very
effective buying tool. That and the fact that my yard owns a repair
center for cars also gives me a good idea of what's substandard. You
just can't dismiss any of these car companies any more. They are all
better than the big three and eating them alive.

RB
35s5
NY

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

Thom Stewart wrote:

It seems to me, I remember both CR & Motor tend giving good reports over
the years to Edsels, Henry J's, Hudson Hornets, AM Motors, Studerbakers.
Where are they now? Ah Yes I forgot to mention the wonderful De Soto!


Studebakers were (still are) great cars. I have a friend who
has owned an Avanti for decades.

DSK

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

I hafta give Nutsy credit; he really does drive this ng. We (Yes, I'm
obviously guilty, too.) are responding to a thread about his Kia
minivan!

Oy vey!

In the interest of full disclosure, I love minivans. I've been a
minivan guy since the 60's when I bought a VW microbus. [Side note: The
paperwork on that sucker labelled it a "station wagon." Interesting.] I
kept that as my utility vehicle into the 90s. Over its long lifespan,
it carried me and all my belongings from New Orleans to Seattle. Made
many long distance camping trips. Carried several of the 1984 Ultima
Thule Everest expedition members up into the mountains for practice
climbs. Numberless ski trips. (Yeah, that pathetic heater made those
kinda chilly!) Hauled tons of crap back and forth from the house to the
boat in an endless procession of trips. Etc.

In '96 we sent Ol' Paint to that big VW graveyard in the sky and bought
a pickup. (RIP, big fella!) Pickups are great vehicles. Really useful.
But they ain't microbuses, err, I mean, minivans. So in 2000, we sold
the pickup and bought a Honda Odyssey. It's the VW bus of the third
millennium. I love it. We've just turned 100K miles and it's ready for
its first tuneup. It's on its third set of tires and is ready for a
second brake job. Aside from that, we had to have 'em degunk one of
those emission control valves recently; but that's it. Half those 100K
miles were spent towing; so we haven't exactly been gentle with it.
Minivans rule! But Kia... ?

Welcome to the world of minivans, Rob! You *are* now officially a
soccer parent. Even if you do get Xzibit to pimp that ride, it's still
a minivan.

Frank

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

Frank wrote:

I hafta give Nutsy credit; he really does drive this ng. We (Yes, I'm
obviously guilty, too.) are responding to a thread about his Kia
minivan!


Why didn't you jump in on the thread about Scotty's toaster?

Oy vey!

In the interest of full disclosure, I love minivans. I've been a
minivan guy since the 60's when I bought a VW microbus. [Side note: The
paperwork on that sucker labelled it a "station wagon." Interesting.] I
kept that as my utility vehicle into the 90s. Over its long lifespan,
it carried me and all my belongings from New Orleans to Seattle. Made
many long distance camping trips. Carried several of the 1984 Ultima
Thule Everest expedition members up into the mountains for practice
climbs. Numberless ski trips. (Yeah, that pathetic heater made those
kinda chilly!) Hauled tons of crap back and forth from the house to the
boat in an endless procession of trips. Etc.


Cool vehicles, I've owned a series of Volkswagens including
the pickup version of the microbus. A Karmann Ghia too, but
that's a story for another day.


In '96 we sent Ol' Paint to that big VW graveyard in the sky and bought
a pickup. (RIP, big fella!) Pickups are great vehicles. Really useful.
But they ain't microbuses, err, I mean, minivans. So in 2000, we sold
the pickup and bought a Honda Odyssey. It's the VW bus of the third
millennium. I love it. We've just turned 100K miles and it's ready for
its first tuneup. It's on its third set of tires and is ready for a
second brake job. Aside from that, we had to have 'em degunk one of
those emission control valves recently; but that's it. Half those 100K
miles were spent towing; so we haven't exactly been gentle with it.
Minivans rule! But Kia... ?

Don't know enough about Kias to say, other than if Bubbles
gets one, it should be looked at with suspicion because he
is after all nuts. I'd go with Ol' Thom's minivan instead.

We're on our second minivan which is a '98 Ford Windstar
with towing package. Gets 25mpg on the hiway, about to turn
110k miles. It's basically used like a pickup truck most of
the time, all seats out & a layer of plywood with I/O carpet
tacked down inside. The dog rides inside with us and stuff
piled up in it doesn't get rained on or stolen. It's been an
excellent regatta wagon and boat-tower, also handy for
moving furniture once in a while. I still have the seats in
case we need to move people.

DSK

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

I hafta give Nutsy credit; he really does drive this ng.


Man, don't say that. It drives pinheads like Joe and Scotty out of
their macroscopic minds.

RB
35s5
NY

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Good Luck Nutsy;

Hope your new Ride is a success for you and Susy and Thom!


New ride, my ass. I'd like to see the shoe horn that could
squeeze the "Big Fat Liar" into a KIA.

Scotty

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

New ride, my ass.



Yes, Sloco often refers to Scotty's ass as his "new ride."


RB
35s5
NY

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

"Mys Terry" wrote in message
...

There was nothing really wrong with the Edsel, other than the public
almost unanimously hated the odd styling.

. . . and the name. Edsel Ford might have been a fine name for a child
(yeah, right), but as a name for a car that the company presumed would be
marketable, it was a disaster.

Max

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com..
.
The best minivan is the Toyota Sienna AWD, Scotty. Second
snip

What are you telling me for? I'm knot a soccer Mom.

Jelious?

Max

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

You Could Be Right Scotty,

I never thought of that! It sure as hell could be a NUTSY TROLL!!!! He
sure as hell done that before ala Catalana at the boat show.

OK Nutsy; pictures of the Kia & Picture of the bill of sale, Picture of
it by the Non Sailing picture of the 35s5,

Scotty just raised the hackles on my back Is the whole thing BS; COULD
BE!!!

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

Yeah, Proved it! No Believe!

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

Oh come on Thom, give him some credit. Any loser can get a Kia. Every
bubble gum poppin 19 YO admin assitant in Houston races and swerves her
way to work every morning in trow away Kia's.

Now his 35s5 is the lie, he just brokered the deal for someone in the
marina.
I wonder if NY requires brokers to get a licences?

You know if it was his boat he would have posted motoring pictures, or
rock ramming damage by now.

Joe

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

oups.com..
.
The best minivan is the Toyota Sienna AWD, Scotty.
Second
snip

What are you telling me for? I'm knot a soccer Mom.

Jelious?


Yulp.

SV

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
You Could Be Right Scotty,

I never thought of that! It sure as hell could be a NUTSY TROLL!!!! He
sure as hell done that before ala Catalana at the boat show.

OK Nutsy; pictures of the Kia & Picture of the bill of sale, Picture of
it by the Non Sailing picture of the 35s5,

And while you're at it, throw in a photo of the STI with you or Thomas in
the driver's seat.

Scotty just raised the hackles on my back Is the whole thing BS; COULD
BE!!!

Likely.

Max

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

Ah Balls Max,

I've already wrote it off as BS. Let's let it go at that.

I'll also say, in parting, its was a pretty good TROLL.

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

Scotty,

Nice Job! You did bring me back to REALITY. Thanks!

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Ah Balls Max,

I've already wrote it off as BS. Let's let it go at that.

I'll also say, in parting, its was a pretty good TROLL.

Bubbles is the trollmeister hereabouts. THAT is indisputable. Even Mooron
can't hold a candle to Bubbles.

Max

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

Maxprop wrote:

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Ah Balls Max,

I've already wrote it off as BS. Let's let it go at that.

I'll also say, in parting, its was a pretty good TROLL.

Bubbles is the trollmeister hereabouts. THAT is indisputable. Even Mooron
can't hold a candle to Bubbles.

Max

Best troller? That's kind like being the best baby seal clubber, who'd
want the title?

Cheers
Marty

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

Marty,

Nutsy glows in having the title. He's tricked just about everybody and
he considers that an accomplishment. So; to each his own (G)

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Ah Balls Max,

I've already wrote it off as BS. Let's let it go at that.

I'll also say, in parting, its was a pretty good TROLL.

Bubbles is the trollmeister hereabouts. THAT is indisputable. Even
Mooron
can't hold a candle to Bubbles.

Max

Best troller? That's kind like being the best baby seal clubber, who'd
want the title?

Mooron.

Max

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Marty,

Nutsy glows in having the title. He's tricked just about everybody and
he considers that an accomplishment. So; to each his own (G)

Give credit where credit is due, Thom. Like him or not, respect him or not,
he is THE TROLLMEISTER. It IS an accomplishment, albeit one with little or
no redeeming value.

Max

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

Nutsy glows in having the title. He's tricked just about everybody and
he considers that an accomplishment. So; to each his own (G)


Every village needs an idiot.

Actually, I don't think Bubbles has "tricked" anybody but
himself, almost everybody here knows that he's not a sailor
and that he lies about everything.


Maxprop wrote:
Give credit where credit is due, Thom. Like him or not, respect him or not,
he is THE TROLLMEISTER. It IS an accomplishment, albeit one with little or
no redeeming value.


Don't forget, he considers himself an "educated film-goer"
whatever that is (couch potato, probably).

DSK

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

Actually, I don't think Bubbles has "tricked" anybody but
himself, almost everybody here knows that he's not a sailor
and that he lies about everything.


Then I HAVE tricked everyone as I sail more than any of you and this
season will be no different. I've only seen ONE pic of you sailing
EVER, Doug. And now you own a powerboat.
As I always maintain, you're a insult to the dream of sailing.

Don't forget, he considers himself an "educated film-goer"
whatever that is (couch potato, probably).

So Doug doesn't even know what an educated film goer is. What a
surprise.


RB
35s5
NY

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...
Actually, I don't think Bubbles has "tricked" anybody but
himself, almost everybody here knows that he's not a sailor
and that he lies about everything.


Then I HAVE tricked everyone as I sail more than any of you and this
season will be no different. I've only seen ONE pic of you sailing
EVER, Doug. And now you own a powerboat.
As I always maintain, you're a insult to the dream of sailing.

Don't forget, he considers himself an "educated film-goer"
whatever that is (couch potato, probably).

So Doug doesn't even know what an educated film goer is. What a
surprise.


RB
35s5
NY

I've seen Doug sailing...in person....and even though he has a trawler right
now, he still sails more than you do...besides his trawler is a great
boat....especially for this area where ir gets shallow quite quickly....he's
an clectic kind of sailor....

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

I've seen Doug sailing...in person....and even though he has a trawler
right
now, he still sails more than you do...


Katy, don't be foolish. I sailed three times in the last 7 days. 4, if
you count me sailing a lightning damaged Pearson 10M into my yard for
repairs.
Your claim is about as phoney as Bob Crantz blue water sailing.

RB
35s5
NY

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

"katysails" wrote in message
...



I've seen Doug sailing...in person....and even though he
has a trawler right
now, he still sails more than you do...besides his trawler
is a great
boat....

But it's got a big hole in the hull.

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

"Swab Rob" wrote

Katy, don't be foolish. I sailed three times in the last 7
days. 4, if
you count me sailing a lightning damaged Pearson 10M into
my yard for
repairs.


Driving the 'Honey Pot' barge from slip to slip does knot
count as sailing.

SV

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

Actually, I don't think Bubbles has "tricked" anybody but
himself, almost everybody here knows that he's not a sailor
and that he lies about everything.


Capt. Rob wrote:
Then I HAVE tricked everyone as I sail more than any of you

blah blah blah

... and this
season will be no different.

That much is probably true.

.... I've only seen ONE pic of you sailing
EVER, Doug.

That's because you haven't looked... no surprise there.


So Doug doesn't even know what an educated film goer is.

Nor does Doug care. Doug has better things to do than sit
around and be entertained like a couch potato, or make up
lies to tell on the internet.

DSK

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

"katysails" wrote
I've seen Doug sailing...in person....and even though he
has a trawler right
now, he still sails more than you do

Shucks, that's no great distinction, Chopper sails more than
Bubbles


...besides his trawler
is a great boat....


So do you all want to come for a tugboat ride this weekend?
Depending on the wind, of course ;)


Scotty wrote:
But it's got a big hole in the hull.


Not any more! In fact it's got two less holes below the
waterline that it had a month ago! That reminds me, I need
to order some more epoxy resin....

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

Nor does Doug care. Doug has better things to do than sit
around and be entertained like a couch potato


Garth Brooks, Charles Manson and George Michael also sit around and
talk about themselves in the 3rd person.

RB
35s5
NY

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
"katysails" wrote
I've seen Doug sailing...in person....and even though he
has a trawler right
now, he still sails more than you do

Shucks, that's no great distinction, Chopper sails more than
Bubbles


...besides his trawler
is a great boat....


So do you all want to come for a tugboat ride this weekend?
Depending on the wind, of course ;)


Scotty wrote:
But it's got a big hole in the hull.


Not any more! In fact it's got two less holes below the
waterline that it had a month ago! That reminds me, I need
to order some more epoxy resin....

Fresh Breezes- Doug King



,,,and Chopper's a better sailor than BS, too.....

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

katysails wrote:
,,,and Chopper's a better sailor than BS, too.....


But of course. Look at their relative IQs, Chopper is much
smarter.

DSK

Capt. RB Buys a Kia
 

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..


Shucks, that's no great distinction, Chopper sails more than Bubbles

Chopper is also a better sailor than Bubbles. Smarter, too.

Max