We may trade away the Tribeca or Outback for a Toyota Prius next week.
We drove one for two days and got 48 MPG and it was a nice ride...sort
of like being on a Star Trek shuttle.
I could care less about what the car costs so long as I'm not giving
the money to oil. I filled up the Prius ONCE! Amazing little car, but
with an interior sized like a Camry. And of course way fewer emissions.
Time to match sailing with a car that's environmntally friendly to the
very wind we sail by!



RB
35s5
NY

wait till you get to feel the force of being hit by a 5,500
suv in one of those asian cracker jak boxes....RIP.....

Another dorkmobile? Hey tree hugger, before you jump on your eco
badwagon you should check the facts on those rip off hybrid autos.
It's a proven fact that you will never save in dollars spent on gas for
the additional premium they charge for those cars. Secondly the
maintenence factor is the BIG unknown that the sellers of these cars
won't talk about. Ask the dealer what it would cost to replace the
electric motors and more importantly the batteries. Battery
replacement alone could top $3,000! For once you dummy do some
research before you lay out the money. Don't make the same mistakes
you made on your boat, your home theater and your wife with a history.

Another dorkmobile? Hey tree hugger, before you jump on your eco
badwagon you should check the facts on those rip off hybrid autos.
It's a proven fact that you will never save in dollars spent on gas for

the additional premium they charge for those cars.


Since we don't keep cars more than 4 years, how could any of this mean
anything? The cost of the Prius is just 26K with the same interior
volume of a Camry. So where's the "premium cost?" It's a cheap car,
much less than our Tribeca or FXT which is faster than your car and a
wagon! If we TRADE our new FXT directly for it we'll save since it's
already paid for.
I suggest you read owner reviews before repeating what you read in some
silly article...like on anchors and tugboats!

RB
35s5
NY

3 grand for batteries seems cheap next to replacing the plastic intake
manifold and crankshaft in any of those cheap vehicles that blow up at
10,000 miles. GM will pay 1.2 billion for this fiasco, Ford will too,
you watch.

3Gs is also cheaper than a new tranny in a conventional ic vehicle like
my old Taurus, with it's tranny designed to fail and force you to buy a
new car every 10 years. Wheelmotor vehicles are more durable, and need
non of that heavy crap like trannys and diff gears, don't need all the
weight of regular brakes, while their internal combustion battery
chargers run at max efficiency and constant rpm, let alone that if
charged at home, fuel costs are effectively eliminated, despite
whatever else you may think. Nuclear electricity is cheaper than oil
fired juice, and the nuclear waste can be put back down the mines it
came out of, sealed in silica glass.

Most cars cruise at about 20 hp. It only for accelleration that we pay
for an extra 150 horses in the engine in our town car commuters, which
weight we then have to drag around to satisfy our testicular urges to
burn rubber at stoplights with our throbbing penis mobiles. One would
hope that a mature person could live without megawatt stereos and
equally stupid overpowered cars and urban tanks which should be taxed
and regulated out of existance for the sake of the environment.

With electric wheelmotor / brakes, we get more internal space, and
batteries can be tucked away under floors and seats, etc. Smaller cars
cause less wind and rolling resistance, resulting in a compounding
cascade of energy efficiency, which will help with fuel damand and
prices. Of course, the oil energy industry would freak out if they
started to lose market share.

Everyone has history.

Terry K

3Gs is also cheaper than a new tranny in a conventional ic vehicle
like
my old Taurus,

Your inflating the numbers here to serve your own agenda. I'm pretty
familiar with the costs of replacing Ford Taurus transmissions since we
had quite a few of them as company cars at my last job. The bill for
replacing a transmission in these cars never exceeded $2200 and that
was at a Ford dealer. If you really paid more than $3,000 for a new
Taurus transmission you were ripped off big time and are a lousy
shopper.

The bill for
replacing a transmission in these cars never exceeded $2200 and that
was at a Ford dealer.


Every taurus I ever met needed a new tranny at some point. My buddy's
Sable needed TWO tranny's in 130K miles! How is that every Subaru I
know of is eventually traded away with an intact engine and tranny with
200K miles or more?
There's a reason why Ford, Chrysler and GM are in trouble. The American
cars simply suck.

RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...
We may trade away the Tribeca or Outback for a Toyota Prius next week.
We drove one for two days and got 48 MPG and it was a nice ride...sort
of like being on a Star Trek shuttle.
I could care less about what the car costs so long as I'm not giving
the money to oil. I filled up the Prius ONCE! Amazing little car, but
with an interior sized like a Camry. And of course way fewer emissions.
Time to match sailing with a car that's environmntally friendly to the
very wind we sail by!

Toyotas are well designed and most are made in America. I don't think the
Prius has as much interior room as a Camry, especially the newer ones. The
Prius is more like the Corolla. The Corolla can get 44 MPG on the highway.
Around town, city driving it can go as low as 34 mpg, especially with
ethanol. Also take a look at the Matrix, it comes in 4WD/AWD and gets good
mileage too.

The Prius requires special driving techniques, most drivers do not get the
mileage benefit because the are leadfoots.

The ultimate solution is to drive less.

Amen!

Toyotas are well designed and most are made in America. I don't think
the
Prius has as much interior room as a Camry, especially the newer ones.
The
Prius is more like the Corolla. The Corolla can get 44 MPG on the
highway.
Around town, city driving it can go as low as 34 mpg, especially with
ethanol. Also take a look at the Matrix, it comes in 4WD/AWD and gets
good
mileage too.

The Prius is quite roomy, more so than the Corolla which I am too tall
for. The Prius has almost the same room as the Camry and more cargo
space. The Matrix is a neat little car. Whatever happens, I know I'm
tired of paying for fuel at 17-25 mpg in my current cars.

RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
Toyotas are well designed and most are made in America. I don't think
the
Prius has as much interior room as a Camry, especially the newer ones.
The
Prius is more like the Corolla. The Corolla can get 44 MPG on the
highway.
Around town, city driving it can go as low as 34 mpg, especially with
ethanol. Also take a look at the Matrix, it comes in 4WD/AWD and gets
good
mileage too.

The Prius is quite roomy, more so than the Corolla which I am too tall
for. The Prius has almost the same room as the Camry and more cargo
space. The Matrix is a neat little car. Whatever happens, I know I'm
tired of paying for fuel at 17-25 mpg in my current cars.

Do the math, Bubbles. You'll never break even with that Prius over, say, a
Corolla or especially a Yaris or the small Scion hatchback. There is no
hybrid currently built that will save money overall in the long run. In the
short run--you only keep your cars 4 years--you'll take a beating. And when
an aging Prius is worth roughly $3K and needs a new battery, which costs
roughly $3K, then what?

Max