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Thom Stewart April 21st 06 12:10 AM

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Marty,

If you need a good answer on something he knows don't go through the
discussion group. On the ASA he feels duty bound to reply with to much
"Bluster" I don't believe anyone, on the List, can change that but on a
one to one e-mail he is different. Don't ask me why???

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage


Peter Wiley April 21st 06 12:47 AM

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In article , OzOne wrote:

On 20 Apr 2006 02:44:51 -0700, "Capt. Rob"
scribbled thusly:

DSLR bodies are VERY close in image quality and color. Shot side by
side all of the Nikon bodies shoot images that look quite alike when
printed side by side from NEF files. My D200 files are VERY close to
the D70 images. My friend's 30D shots are also about the same. I have a
friend with a Fuji DSLR (S3) and we agree that it's about the same
image quality as any of the other DSLRs. When pushed to low light
limits you'll find bigger differences in the sensor's capability. Under
most shooting situations they are so close that it's a stretch to
compare DSLR bodies to film. Most professional tests really go crazy
with 100% crops to see ANY difference that matters.
Choose a DSLR based on the lenses and ergonomics/performance. Ozzy's
lenses are fairly poor, but Canon does make some good glass. There is
also some 3rd party glass, such as the Tokina 12-24mm that beats all
others.

RB
35s5
NY


You don't know what my glass is!


Half full of a quality Aussie red.

PDW

Bart Senior April 21st 06 12:50 AM

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Heinlein said, "Never argue with an idiot. Onlookers
may not be able to tell you apart.

OzOne wrote in message

"Capt. Rob"
scribbled thusly:

Got ya bouncing around like a ball in a pinball machine, and I'm
defensive?


Yup, more so that I've ever seen before from you. Defending cheap
lenses, canon and some sort of photographic need that defies the
principals of optics....it's been fun!
After you were finally forced to lie, I knew it was all over for you!
Go take that nap...you worked hard this morning!

RB
35s5
NY


Forced to lie...tell me Bubbles, what was my lie?


Oz1...of the 3 twins.




Peter Wiley April 21st 06 02:12 AM

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In article , OzOne wrote:

On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:47:19 +0100, Peter Wiley
scribbled thusly:

You don't know what my glass is!


Half full of a quality Aussie red.

PDW

Not this time of the morning!


All right, then, you latte sipping metro.... far more use drinking than
arguing with Bob about cameras. After all, WGAF? I buy cheap(ish)
digital cameras for general use too, because they get dropped in dry
docks, off decks etc etc, and it's not even my money. It's yours :-)

Had a truckload of steel reo delivered at 0730, there goes *my*
weekend. I almost hope it ****es rain & snows, I hate doing steel
fixing. MIG gun with flux cored wire, here we come....

PDW

Capt. Rob April 21st 06 02:43 AM

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Forced to lie...tell me Bubbles, what was my lie?


You said I claimed my gear was best, and I got it for less, but I never
made ANY such claim. After losing every point, all you had left was
dopey fibs.
I expected more of you, Ozzy.

RB
35s5
NY


Capt. Rob April 21st 06 02:43 AM

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Forced to lie...tell me Bubbles, what was my lie?


You said I claimed my gear was best, and I got it for less, but I never
made ANY such claim. After losing every point, all you had left was
dopey fibs.
I expected more of you, Ozzy.

RB
35s5
NY


Martin Baxter April 21st 06 01:27 PM

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OzOne wrote:

On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 02:12:25 +0100, Peter Wiley
scribbled thusly:

All right, then, you latte sipping metro.... far more use drinking than
arguing with Bob about cameras. After all, WGAF? I buy cheap(ish)
digital cameras for general use too, because they get dropped in dry
docks, off decks etc etc, and it's not even my money. It's yours :-)


Heh he, that's why I bought the little cheapy Olympus.

Had a truckload of steel reo delivered at 0730, there goes *my*
weekend. I almost hope it ****es rain & snows, I hate doing steel
fixing. MIG gun with flux cored wire, here we come....


Why not use gas, 25% Co2, 75%Ar?


PDW


Go for it..do it naked and you can get a nice tan too.


Two things you should *not* do naked: 1)Arc weld 2)Fry bacon

Cheers
Marty

Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.


Capt. Rob April 21st 06 01:31 PM

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I'll say it again...I don't need to spend money on cameras for
bragging rights.



Uh, but a D50 costs LESS, dummy! So does the D70s!!!


Bwahahahahahahaha!


RB
35s5
NY


Thom Stewart April 22nd 06 10:04 PM

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Oh **** Nutsy,

Most of what I know of Photography I've learned listening to you. Even I
know those poles should be vertical, not slanted. You told Ozzy to level
his Camera. Why in the hell don't you practise what you preach?

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage


Capt. Rob April 22nd 06 11:43 PM

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Most of what I know of Photography I've learned listening to you. Even
I
know those poles should be vertical, not slanted. You told Ozzy to
level
his Camera. Why in the hell don't you practise what you preach?


Ozzy's shot is a scenic, in spite of what he'd "like" to call it. Even
with a false horizon, you should level off for those. Best example
would be a group of people on the beach with visible ocean and horizon.

But for a shot of a child, the rule is often broken with nice results.
This little girl was repeatedly dangling from the green rail and I
leveled for her and not the playset. This is effective composition. If
she was "swinging" I would have leveled off the playset to build on
that aspect of the scene. Static portrait composition does not always
require leveling off, as in the hard angles I employ shooting down on
Thomas. And sometimes, especially with child portraits, you simply take
what comes and shoot fast, then level it in post.
Subtle errors are often a result of the subject leaning, as seen here.
In spite of framing with grid lines, Thom's movement still threw me off
slightly. It's fixable, but I'm otherwise happy with the shot.

http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/firemanweby.jpg

RB
35s5
NY



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