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Did some idiot say his name three times?

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It was Sloco! He said:

"Better faster boat."
"Better faster boat."
"Better faster boat."

So here she is!


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Did some idiot say his name three times?

He hasn't gloated about his new plastic boat quite enough this month to
satisfy himself.

Beetlejuice (Betelgeuse), by the way, would be a good name for that thing.

Max

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Beetlejuice (Betelgeuse), by the way, would be a good name for that
thing.


Sorry, Maxprop. If you actually did some sailing and observed other
vessels you'd know that's too common a name, while 35s5's are unique
with fewer than 200 in the USA. The rest are winning winning races in
Europe and Japan!
I sailed a Stone Horse Saturday evening....neat little boat for the
older set.


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Maxprop wrote:


Beetlejuice (Betelgeuse), by the way, would be a good name for that thing.

Bobsprit = Bobspit = Bobspittle = Spittle = Spittlejuice.

SPITTLEJUICE

I like it.

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SPITTLEJUICE


I like it.


We have little doubt. Try the fetish groups.


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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Beetlejuice (Betelgeuse), by the way, would be a good name for that
thing.


Sorry, Maxprop. If you actually did some sailing and observed other
vessels you'd know that's too common a name,

Bingo.

while 35s5's are unique

Yeah, really unique, those Beneteaus. Ya never see 'em.

with fewer than 200 in the USA.

There are 46 examples of my boat. And my friend's Panda 34 is one of 5
built. THAT is unique. I'll bet there aren't many more than 200 Macs out
there.

The rest are winning winning races in
Europe and Japan!
I sailed a Stone Horse Saturday evening....neat little boat for the
older set.

THAT, too, is unique.

Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice.

Good common name for a common boat.

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There are 46 examples of my boat. And my friend's Panda 34 is one of 5

built. THAT is unique. I'll bet there aren't many more than 200 Macs
out
there.


Keep trying, Maxi....but the truth is that the 35s5, 32s5 and 35s7
don't look like other sailboats. They have unique cabin trunks, unique
ports (perhaps even more so on the 35s7) and unusual stern sections.
Famous designer Philip Starck designed the interiors and they are also
like no other. I've had many compliment in the last few days while
getting her ready. One sharp sailor noted her looks as something
between a Swan 36 (The Baby Swan) and a Saga 43. Every sailor here
comments on how different the 35s5 looks and it was also noted in
reviews since her introduction. Newer hulls are more conventional.
That's not to say that everyone likes the looks of the 35s5. That would
make her dull...like a Catalina 28 or a Cape Dory 30 or a Express
30....boats that just followed very established design.
While there may be only 46 of your boat there are a TON of boats that
look like your boat. She follows every conventional line of her era for
that type of boat, while the Beneteau does not.
"Unique" is not in the eye of the beholder. There are too (thousand
upon thousands) many boats that simply look a lot like yours and very
few that look like mine. Add to that the fact that Beneteau built the
35s5 well above current standards...she's quite a package.
Frankly, I like the looks of your boat. It has classic sweet lines that
are timeless. But the lines are hardly unique or daring.


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Apparently, unique is another way of saying UGLY.

On 2006-04-14 06:34:01 -0400, "Capt. Rob" said:

There are 46 examples of my boat. And my friend's Panda 34 is one of 5

built. THAT is unique. I'll bet there aren't many more than 200 Macs
out
there.


Keep trying, Maxi....but the truth is that the 35s5, 32s5 and 35s7
don't look like other sailboats. They have unique cabin trunks, unique
ports (perhaps even more so on the 35s7) and unusual stern sections.
Famous designer Philip Starck designed the interiors and they are also
like no other. I've had many compliment in the last few days while
getting her ready. One sharp sailor noted her looks as something
between a Swan 36 (The Baby Swan) and a Saga 43. Every sailor here
comments on how different the 35s5 looks and it was also noted in
reviews since her introduction. Newer hulls are more conventional.
That's not to say that everyone likes the looks of the 35s5. That would
make her dull...like a Catalina 28 or a Cape Dory 30 or a Express
30....boats that just followed very established design.
While there may be only 46 of your boat there are a TON of boats that
look like your boat. She follows every conventional line of her era for
that type of boat, while the Beneteau does not.
"Unique" is not in the eye of the beholder. There are too (thousand
upon thousands) many boats that simply look a lot like yours and very
few that look like mine. Add to that the fact that Beneteau built the
35s5 well above current standards...she's quite a package.
Frankly, I like the looks of your boat. It has classic sweet lines that
are timeless. But the lines are hardly unique or daring.


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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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There are 46 examples of my boat. And my friend's Panda 34 is one of 5

built. THAT is unique. I'll bet there aren't many more than 200 Macs
out
there.


Keep trying, Maxi....but the truth is that the 35s5, 32s5 and 35s7
don't look like other sailboats.

And for that the owners of those other sailboats are eternally grateful.

They have unique cabin trunks, unique
ports (perhaps even more so on the 35s7) and unusual stern sections.

And the biggest damn swim platform this side of a 72' Hatteras.

Famous designer Philip Starck

Who?

designed the interiors and they are also
like no other.

Once again the owners of other boats genuflect in praise of their boats'
designers.

I've had many compliment in the last few days while
getting her ready. One sharp sailor noted her looks as something
between a Swan 36 (The Baby Swan) and a Saga 43.

Lemme guess--that "sharp sailor" was Blind Mellow Jelly or one of his
brothers?

Every sailor here
comments on how different the 35s5 looks

Uh huh.

and it was also noted in
reviews since her introduction. Newer hulls are more conventional.

Conventional = attractive.

That's not to say that everyone likes the looks of the 35s5.

That's not to say *anyone* likes the looks of the 35s5 either.

That would
make her dull...like a Catalina 28 or a Cape Dory 30 or a Express
30....boats that just followed very established design.

Very established design = attractive.

While there may be only 46 of your boat there are a TON of boats that
look like your boat.

There may have been a ton, but not anymore. Most were wood and rotted into
oblivion.

She follows every conventional line of her era for
that type of boat, while the Beneteau does not.

Beneteau = Jenneau = DuFour = Clorox bleach bottle.

"Unique" is not in the eye of the beholder. There are too (thousand
upon thousands) many boats that simply look a lot like yours and very
few that look like mine.

God bless the designers who demonstrated the wisdom to accomplish that.

Add to that the fact that Beneteau built the
35s5 well above current standards...she's quite a package.

Indeed. Quite a bit like a United Parcel Service cardboard box with spars.

Frankly, I like the looks of your boat. It has classic sweet lines that
are timeless. But the lines are hardly unique or daring.

I'm yanking your chain, Bob. I've told you I like your boat, and I do.
They are fast, well-built, and I like the Starck interiors, too.

Now remove the hook from your gill . . er, mouth and smile.

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Apparently, unique is another way of saying UGLY.

Bob's boat isn't ugly, but it really isn't unique either. Take the average
landlubber, walk him down a dock with a bunch of Beneteaus and Jenneaus in
the slips, including a 35s5, and then ask him to tell you which boat is
"unique." I'm betting he'd have a rough time with that request.

"They all look the same to moi," he would say, after walking the dock up and
down a few times.

Now repeat the same test with a season sailor. His response would not be
dissimilar. Plastic boats from France have the distinction of all looking
pretty much alike.

Now put a single Panda 34 or a CCA-style boat in with all the Beneteaus and
ask the same two individuals the same question. Doubtlessly you'll get a
quick and definitive response from both.

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Keep trying, Maxi....but the truth is that the 35s5, 32s5 and 35s7
don't look like other sailboats.

And for that the owners of those other sailboats are eternally
grateful.


Sorry, Maxi, you already wrote that you liked the looks of the 35s5...a
tad late to troll otherwise. Of course I know you're yanking my
chain....what else do we do here?

Very established design = attractive.

Actually I like the CD 30 quite a bit. I'm brokering one right now. The
Catalina 28 doens't look like anything to me. It's the very definition
of a me-too boat. As for the Express 30, I mean no insult to Sloco, but
that thing's got awful lines. It's one of the few boats that still
looks bad under sail.

There may have been a ton, but not anymore. Most were wood and rotted into
oblivion.

I'm on the LIS and there are a lot of those boats with those lines
here; enough that they sort of blend into eachother and you can get
confused as to which is which. That's not to say that they aren't
pretty boats. They are. But if you want a boat that looks different and
sails well....look to a Beneteau 35s5, Swan 36 or even a Freedom 35
with it's cool rig. In you want modern sailing capability mixed with
more classic lines...then an Alerion 28 or 37/38 (either version).



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Bob's boat isn't ugly, but it really isn't unique either. Take the
average
landlubber, walk him down a dock with a bunch of Beneteaus and Jenneaus
in
the slips, including a 35s5, and then ask him to tell you which boat is

"unique." I'm betting he'd have a rough time with that request.


I have a plenty of non-sailing friends and the 35s5 has won them over
hugely as compared to the more conventional C&C 32...and this on looks
alone. There are a ton of boats that looked like my C&C. My
ex-girlfriend saw the 35s5 for the first time last month (She's owned a
Catalina 27, J24 and now a late model Catalina 30) and was utterly
wowed by the 35s5. She wants to buy one!


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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Bob's boat isn't ugly, but it really isn't unique either. Take the
average
landlubber, walk him down a dock with a bunch of Beneteaus and Jenneaus
in
the slips, including a 35s5, and then ask him to tell you which boat is

"unique." I'm betting he'd have a rough time with that request.


I have a plenty of non-sailing friends and the 35s5 has won them over
hugely as compared to the more conventional C&C 32...and this on looks
alone. There are a ton of boats that looked like my C&C. My
ex-girlfriend saw the 35s5 for the first time last month (She's owned a
Catalina 27, J24 and now a late model Catalina 30) and was utterly
wowed by the 35s5. She wants to buy one!

Maybe you should sell her yours. Instant profit?

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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I'm on the LIS and there are a lot of those boats with those lines
here; enough that they sort of blend into eachother and you can get
confused as to which is which.

Boats weren't actually built to the CCA rule back then. Rather designers
built boats that followed the conventional design wisdom of the times, and
the rule was devised to avoid penalizing such "cruising" boats. So, yes,
boats from that era did tend to resemble each other: active sheer lines,
low freeboard, narrow beams, curved overhanging bow, bustle in the rear,
etc. But at least around here they are absolutely unique. We have tons of
Beneteaus, Catalinas, Hunters, O'Days, Pearsons, etc. lining our docks, and
a CCA-period boat certainly looks unique by comparison. YMMV out there on
the Right Coast, where more of such boats persist.

That's not to say that they aren't
pretty boats. They are. But if you want a boat that looks different and
sails well....look to a Beneteau 35s5, Swan 36 or even a Freedom 35
with it's cool rig. In you want modern sailing capability mixed with
more classic lines...then an Alerion 28 or 37/38 (either version).

I agree that the Alerions look different--attractive--but disagree with the
25s5, Swan 36, or the Freedom 35. Yeah, they aren't quite like the other
boats of the same age, but they are close enough to be indistinguishable
unless the observer's eye is well-versed in boat models and brands. We saw
a 36 Swan in the BVI some years ago. It was moored two boats from us, and I
thought it was attractive, but couldn't immediately name it. Others on our
boat came up with wrong names, and I finally jumped into the dink and
motored over to see what it was. That window over the top of the coach roof
gave it away as I got closer. If it weren't for that, I'm not sure I could
have identified it. And I think Freedoms look a lot like Catalinas, etc.
Your boat is more distinctive than either of those two examples.

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
I have a plenty of non-sailing friends and the 35s5 has won them over
hugely as compared to the more conventional C&C 32...and this on looks
alone.

LOL..... Oh Puleeeze Bobsprit...... at least attempt a modicum of truth in
your fabrications!

There are a ton of boats that looked like my C&C.

Like the 35s5??? Bleach Bottle Boats all look alike!!

Shiny white plastic fin keelers lined up in a row! It's a wonder you don't
take the wrong boat out every so often by mistake and wonder why the
performance curve has taken such a twist.... then again that might be
difficult under power Eh!???

CM-

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"Mys Terry" wrote in message

Just remember, Jeffie... If he sells this boat, he'll be buying an even
better
one!

Heh Bobsprit... I thought you got up early to let your lap dog out.... Looks
like he wants back in!! Bwahahahahahahahahhaaaa

Who! WHO! Who who..... Who let the dog out.. WHO?!! :-)

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Famous designer Philip Starck

Who?


He's had his designs at MOMA, so it's not surprising you've never heard
of him. What's pretty funny is that a google search easily turns up the
following:

"Philippe Patrick Starck (born January 18, 1949) is a well-known French
designer and probably the best known designer in the New Design style.
His designs range from spectacular interior designs to mass produced
consumer goods such as toothbrushes, chairs, and even houses."

By the way, MOMA stands for Museum of Modern Art. And a museum is where
artifacts, art and natural history are recorded or preserved. Perhaps
you have a museum close to you. Ask someone to take you.

By the way, my interior is hand signed by Starck.


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Pretty boat, Ozzy. Is that yours in the pic?

Scotty



OzOne wrote in messag

Bob, I have non boating friends who've been won over by my
1950's putt
putt and can't wait for an invitation to chug up the river
in her so
they ring and suggest they bring over a couple of bottles
of
chardonnay an a few kilos of prawns knowing full well that
the best
place to consume them is out on the river.
Oh, she cost all of $4000 incl the trailer though I'm
sorely tempted
to update to this beauty
http://tinyurl.com/nkqda


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting
you.

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"Capt.Mooron" wrote
Like the 35s5??? Bleach Bottle Boats all look alike!!

Like the mall parking lot full of silver SUVs.

SBV

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By the way, my interior is hand signed by Starck.


Now *there's* something to brag about!

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By the way, my interior is hand signed by Starck.
Now *there's* something to brag about!


Thanks, Scotty, you're right. It's kinda cool knowing that Starck
signed these interiors, which were featured even in the NY Times Arts
and Liesure section in 1990. Showed her off to some friends
today...nothing but ooo's and ahhhhhs. Sailing tomorrow at around 3:00
with a few Ghost girls, Thomas and Suzanne!

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I sailed a Stone Horse Saturday evening....neat little boat for the
older set.


"The older set"?? The Stone Horse is a great sailing little
boat. It's not necessarily for "the older set" but for those
who have an appreciation for a classic and value sailing
characteristics besides straight-line speed.

I had a good friend with a Stone Horse and sailed it many
times, on one occasion we beat a J-24 boat-for-boat in a
club race.


Maxprop wrote:
THAT, too, is unique.


I bet there are fewer Stone Horses than there are Beneteau
35s5es around.

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In article , OzOne wrote:

On 15 Apr 2006 03:20:24 -0700, "Capt. Rob"
scribbled thusly:
I have a plenty of non-sailing friends and the 35s5 has won them over
hugely as compared to the more conventional C&C 32...and this on looks
alone. There are a ton of boats that looked like my C&C. My
ex-girlfriend saw the 35s5 for the first time last month (She's owned a
Catalina 27, J24 and now a late model Catalina 30) and was utterly
wowed by the 35s5. She wants to buy one!


RB
35s5
NY

Bob, I have non boating friends who've been won over by my 1950's putt
putt and can't wait for an invitation to chug up the river in her so
they ring and suggest they bring over a couple of bottles of
chardonnay an a few kilos of prawns knowing full well that the best
place to consume them is out on the river.
Oh, she cost all of $4000 incl the trailer though I'm sorely tempted
to update to this beauty
http://tinyurl.com/nkqda

Heh, neat boat, Oz. I almost convinced myself to buy one of the ex
Derwent Sailing Squadron putt putts whan they flogged them off. 21'
LOD, 8 HP Yanmar engines, solid f/g hulls. Thought it was going to be
one toy too many right ATM, tho.

PDW

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I bet there are fewer Stone Horses than there are Beneteau
35s5es around.


We have at least 2 Stone Horses on City Island. In fact I sold a nice
one a few years back. We have the only 35s5 on the Island and as near
as I can tell there are only a few on the entire sound.


"The older set"?? The Stone Horse is a great sailing little
boat. It's not necessarily for "the older set"

It's not an ideal family boat, which is what I meant. It's hard to
imagine a well sailed J24 losing to a Stone Horse, but I guess
anything's possible.

RB
35s5
NY

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Oh, she cost all of $4000 incl the trailer though I'm sorely tempted
to update to this beauty
http://tinyurl.com/nkqda


Wow, that is a cool boat. If you "update" it you should put
in a steam engine.

Peter Wiley wrote:
Heh, neat boat, Oz. I almost convinced myself to buy one of the ex
Derwent Sailing Squadron putt putts whan they flogged them off. 21'
LOD, 8 HP Yanmar engines, solid f/g hulls. Thought it was going to be
one toy too many right ATM, tho.


Is that possible?

DSK

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"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Peter Wiley wrote:
Heh, neat boat, Oz. I almost convinced myself to buy one of the ex
Derwent Sailing Squadron putt putts whan they flogged them off. 21'
LOD, 8 HP Yanmar engines, solid f/g hulls. Thought it was going to be
one toy too many right ATM, tho.


Is that possible?

DSK

Some of my family and friends say so. I have ten boats at the moment and am
resisting suggestions that this is too many for one person and his wife. But
they are mostly small although the range is from 38' down to 8'. But the
smaller ones are irreplaceable wooden boats and I just like having them even
if some of them go several years without hitting the water...

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Edgar wrote:
.... I have ten boats at the moment and am
resisting suggestions that this is too many for one person and his wife. But
they are mostly small although the range is from 38' down to 8'. But the
smaller ones are irreplaceable wooden boats and I just like having them even
if some of them go several years without hitting the water...


Are they those wonderful lapstrake Scandinavian working boat
types? It's different if they're collectors items.
Definitely not a toy!

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In article , DSK
wrote:

Oh, she cost all of $4000 incl the trailer though I'm sorely tempted
to update to this beauty
http://tinyurl.com/nkqda


Wow, that is a cool boat. If you "update" it you should put
in a steam engine.

Peter Wiley wrote:
Heh, neat boat, Oz. I almost convinced myself to buy one of the ex
Derwent Sailing Squadron putt putts whan they flogged them off. 21'
LOD, 8 HP Yanmar engines, solid f/g hulls. Thought it was going to be
one toy too many right ATM, tho.


Is that possible?

It is when you're working on the concrete formwork for a 16m x 13m x
4.2m high barn/workshop. So far I've used 1000 linear metres of 150x50
timber and have yet to pour the concrete footings. Another couple
weeks, maybe. Then the fun really starts. First, carefully stripping
off all the formwork I carefully built, then backfilling, pouring the
slab, erecting the framework etc etc. A real winter project...... no
time for another toy boat that'd sit on one of my moorings until spring
or more likely summer, at which time I'd be heading south again.

Next year, maybe.

PDW

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No, I have only been in Norway just under 3 years. Mine are English built in
mahogany and English elm with oak timbering. I keep them because they were
built by my father who was a boat builder and they range in age from 50 to
88 years and I keep them looking good and ready for use.
English lapstrake boats have narrower planks and more of them than
Scandinavian and the narrow planks allow more complex shapes to be built
than the wide planked Scandinavian lapstrake boats. Also most Scandinavian
boats are built of softwood which is harder to keep looking good although
there are some beautifully maintained wooden boats around here.
So my tally is seven wooden boats, a GRP yacht and one small GRP dinghy plus
one rubber dinghy.

"DSK" wrote in message
...
Edgar wrote:
.... I have ten boats at the moment and am
resisting suggestions that this is too many for one person and his wife.
But
they are mostly small although the range is from 38' down to 8'. But
the
smaller ones are irreplaceable wooden boats and I just like having them
even
if some of them go several years without hitting the water...


Are they those wonderful lapstrake Scandinavian working boat
types? It's different if they're collectors items.
Definitely not a toy!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King