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Bob Crantz April 1st 06 07:44 PM

Mother Teresa - A Bad Catholic?
 
http://www.traditioninaction.org/Hot...therTeresa.htm

Excerpts:

.. First, she assumed the false supposition that God is the same for
Muslims, pagans and Catholics.

. Second, she simplified the notion of love, and implied that one can
love both the good and the evil, that the object of one's love is an
indifferent subject. All that matters is love. This contradicts the teaching
of basic Catholic Catechism that instructs us to love the true God above all
things.

Oh my!

But there's mo

Now, in the case of Mother Teresa, John Paul II waived the five-year waiting
period. Then, in 2002 the Vatican recognized one miracle, the cure of Monica
Besra, a 35-year-old villager from northern India cured of an ovarian tumor.
Besra and the Missionaries of Charity claim that the tumor vanished in
September 1998 when a medallion with an image of the late Albanian nun was
applied to the site of her pain.

However, Dr. Ranjan Mustafi, chief gynecologist who treated the woman at
Balurghat District Hospital in West Bengal, says that it was quite possible
that his patient was cured by four anti-TB drugs she was taking at the time,
which could have dissolved the tumor. He said he admires Mother Teresa
greatly and thinks she should be beatified for her work among the poor. But
not for this case. "She [Besra] had a medical disease which was cured by
medical science, not by any miracle," he says.(4)

His hospital superiors back him up, saying that records show she responded
to the treatment steadily. Five doctors in Rome consulted by the Vatican on
the case disregarded this scientific probability and hastily agreed there
was no medical explanation for the cure. Mustafi said he was never contacted
by the Vatican. (5)

Hype, hype, hype!!!!!

Throw in some zealotry!

Stir a bit and you have----

A saint!!!!



Bob Crantz April 1st 06 07:47 PM

Mother Teresa - A Bad Catholic?
 
Oh oh!

Hey Maxprop it's getting worse:

http://www.population-security.org/swom-96-09.htm

One of Mother Teresa's volunteers in Calcutta described her "Home for the
Dying" as resembling photos of concentration camps such as Belsen. No
chairs, just stretcher beds. Virtually no medical care or painkillers beyond
aspirin, and a refusal to take a 15-year-old boy to a hospital. Hitchens
adds, "Bear in mind that Mother Teresa's global income is more than enough
to outfit several first class clinics in Bengal. The decision not to do
so... is a deliberate one. The point is not the honest relief of suffering,
but the promulgation of a cult based on death and suffering and subjection."

Then Hitchens notes that Mother Teresa "has checked into some of the finest
and costliest clinics and hospitals in the West during her bouts with heart
trouble and old age."







John Cairns April 2nd 06 05:28 PM

Mother Teresa - A Bad Catholic?
 

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
...
Oh oh!

Hey Maxprop it's getting worse:

http://www.population-security.org/swom-96-09.htm

One of Mother Teresa's volunteers in Calcutta described her "Home for the
Dying" as resembling photos of concentration camps such as Belsen. No
chairs, just stretcher beds. Virtually no medical care or painkillers
beyond aspirin, and a refusal to take a 15-year-old boy to a hospital.
Hitchens adds, "Bear in mind that Mother Teresa's global income is more
than enough to outfit several first class clinics in Bengal. The decision
not to do so... is a deliberate one. The point is not the honest relief of
suffering, but the promulgation of a cult based on death and suffering and
subjection."

Then Hitchens notes that Mother Teresa "has checked into some of the
finest and costliest clinics and hospitals in the West during her bouts
with heart trouble and old age."


I read the Hitchens story in Vanity Fair, MT was a real piece of work, but
Catholics need their icons, no?

John Cairns



Maxprop April 2nd 06 06:19 PM

Mother Teresa - A Bad Catholic?
 

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
...
Oh oh!

Hey Maxprop it's getting worse:

http://www.population-security.org/swom-96-09.htm

One of Mother Teresa's volunteers in Calcutta described her "Home for the
Dying" as resembling photos of concentration camps such as Belsen.


That would be Bergen-Belsen.

No chairs, just stretcher beds. Virtually no medical care or painkillers
beyond aspirin,


Yeah, like she had the funds to turn the place into the Mayo Clinic.

and a refusal to take a 15-year-old boy to a hospital. Hitchens adds,
"Bear in mind that Mother Teresa's global income is more than enough to
outfit several first class clinics in Bengal.


Highly unlikely. Her detractor is no doubt referring to her family's
wealth, not funds to which MT had access. This critic sounds a lot like
you.

The decision not to do so... is a deliberate one. The point is not the
honest relief of suffering, but the promulgation of a cult based on death
and suffering and subjection."


Sounds like really sour grapes to moi. You seem willing to pillory Mother
Teresa, but you make no comment about her detractor. Suspicious.


Then Hitchens notes that Mother Teresa "has checked into some of the
finest and costliest clinics and hospitals in the West during her bouts
with heart trouble and old age."


More sour grapes, and unsubstantiated hearsay. Sorry, but I'm not changing
my mind about her based on the venom of a disgruntled co-workers. Just
about anyone can sound horrendous if described by a detractor taking
information out of context. Likewise, Jeffrey Dahmer could have been
Citizen of the Year if properly portrayed.


Max



Maxprop April 2nd 06 06:20 PM

Mother Teresa - A Bad Catholic?
 

"John Cairns" wrote in message
. com...

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
...
Oh oh!

Hey Maxprop it's getting worse:

http://www.population-security.org/swom-96-09.htm

One of Mother Teresa's volunteers in Calcutta described her "Home for the
Dying" as resembling photos of concentration camps such as Belsen. No
chairs, just stretcher beds. Virtually no medical care or painkillers
beyond aspirin, and a refusal to take a 15-year-old boy to a hospital.
Hitchens adds, "Bear in mind that Mother Teresa's global income is more
than enough to outfit several first class clinics in Bengal. The decision
not to do so... is a deliberate one. The point is not the honest relief
of suffering, but the promulgation of a cult based on death and suffering
and subjection."

Then Hitchens notes that Mother Teresa "has checked into some of the
finest and costliest clinics and hospitals in the West during her bouts
with heart trouble and old age."


I read the Hitchens story in Vanity Fair, MT was a real piece of work, but
Catholics need their icons, no?


So does the left wing, apparently.

Max



John Cairns April 2nd 06 06:47 PM

Mother Teresa - A Bad Catholic?
 

"Maxprop" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"John Cairns" wrote in message
. com...

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
...
Oh oh!

Hey Maxprop it's getting worse:

http://www.population-security.org/swom-96-09.htm

One of Mother Teresa's volunteers in Calcutta described her "Home for
the Dying" as resembling photos of concentration camps such as Belsen.
No chairs, just stretcher beds. Virtually no medical care or painkillers
beyond aspirin, and a refusal to take a 15-year-old boy to a hospital.
Hitchens adds, "Bear in mind that Mother Teresa's global income is more
than enough to outfit several first class clinics in Bengal. The
decision not to do so... is a deliberate one. The point is not the
honest relief of suffering, but the promulgation of a cult based on
death and suffering and subjection."

Then Hitchens notes that Mother Teresa "has checked into some of the
finest and costliest clinics and hospitals in the West during her bouts
with heart trouble and old age."


I read the Hitchens story in Vanity Fair, MT was a real piece of work,
but Catholics need their icons, no?


So does the left wing, apparently.

Max


If you read any of Hitchens' work you'ld realize he definitely wasn't your
typical "leftist", he was/is a supporter of the war in Iraq.

John Cairns



Bob Crantz April 3rd 06 12:24 AM

Mother Teresa - A Bad Catholic?
 

"Maxprop" wrote in message
link.net...

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
...
Oh oh!

Hey Maxprop it's getting worse:

http://www.population-security.org/swom-96-09.htm

One of Mother Teresa's volunteers in Calcutta described her "Home for the
Dying" as resembling photos of concentration camps such as Belsen.


That would be Bergen-Belsen.

No chairs, just stretcher beds. Virtually no medical care or painkillers
beyond aspirin,


Yeah, like she had the funds to turn the place into the Mayo Clinic.


So no donations sent to her organization?




and a refusal to take a 15-year-old boy to a hospital. Hitchens adds,
"Bear in mind that Mother Teresa's global income is more than enough to
outfit several first class clinics in Bengal.


Highly unlikely. Her detractor is no doubt referring to her family's
wealth, not funds to which MT had access. This critic sounds a lot like
you.


You can look up her Charity if you like.


The decision not to do so... is a deliberate one. The point is not the
honest relief of suffering, but the promulgation of a cult based on death
and suffering and subjection."


Sounds like really sour grapes to moi. You seem willing to pillory Mother
Teresa, but you make no comment about her detractor. Suspicious.


Sounds just like MT's own words.




Then Hitchens notes that Mother Teresa "has checked into some of the
finest and costliest clinics and hospitals in the West during her bouts
with heart trouble and old age."


More sour grapes, and unsubstantiated hearsay. Sorry, but I'm not
changing my mind about her based on the venom of a disgruntled co-workers.
Just about anyone can sound horrendous if described by a detractor taking
information out of context. Likewise, Jeffrey Dahmer could have been
Citizen of the Year if properly portrayed.


Pacemaker + heart valve replacement. Vow of poverty?





Max




Bob Crantz April 3rd 06 12:26 AM

Mother Teresa - A Bad Catholic?
 

"John Cairns" wrote in message
. com...

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
...
Oh oh!

Hey Maxprop it's getting worse:

http://www.population-security.org/swom-96-09.htm

One of Mother Teresa's volunteers in Calcutta described her "Home for the
Dying" as resembling photos of concentration camps such as Belsen. No
chairs, just stretcher beds. Virtually no medical care or painkillers
beyond aspirin, and a refusal to take a 15-year-old boy to a hospital.
Hitchens adds, "Bear in mind that Mother Teresa's global income is more
than enough to outfit several first class clinics in Bengal. The decision
not to do so... is a deliberate one. The point is not the honest relief
of suffering, but the promulgation of a cult based on death and suffering
and subjection."

Then Hitchens notes that Mother Teresa "has checked into some of the
finest and costliest clinics and hospitals in the West during her bouts
with heart trouble and old age."


I read the Hitchens story in Vanity Fair, MT was a real piece of work, but
Catholics need their icons, no?

John Cairns


She was a cash cow for the Catholic Church. Last year alone they spent over
470 million dollars in legal fees defending child molesters.

How many millions did Mother Teresa receive from the Church?

How many millions were raised in her name?

Glory!



Maxprop April 3rd 06 03:58 AM

Mother Teresa - A Bad Catholic?
 

"John Cairns" wrote in message
. com...

"Maxprop" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"John Cairns" wrote in message
. com...

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
...
Oh oh!

Hey Maxprop it's getting worse:

http://www.population-security.org/swom-96-09.htm

One of Mother Teresa's volunteers in Calcutta described her "Home for
the Dying" as resembling photos of concentration camps such as Belsen.
No chairs, just stretcher beds. Virtually no medical care or
painkillers beyond aspirin, and a refusal to take a 15-year-old boy to
a hospital. Hitchens adds, "Bear in mind that Mother Teresa's global
income is more than enough to outfit several first class clinics in
Bengal. The decision not to do so... is a deliberate one. The point is
not the honest relief of suffering, but the promulgation of a cult
based on death and suffering and subjection."

Then Hitchens notes that Mother Teresa "has checked into some of the
finest and costliest clinics and hospitals in the West during her bouts
with heart trouble and old age."

I read the Hitchens story in Vanity Fair, MT was a real piece of work,
but Catholics need their icons, no?


So does the left wing, apparently.

Max


If you read any of Hitchens' work you'ld realize he definitely wasn't your
typical "leftist", he was/is a supporter of the war in Iraq.


Regarding the left wing, I wasn't referring to Hitchens.

Max




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