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Interesting things you can't do with a Laptop
Kind of like Bobsprit..... has the latest and greatest electronic gizmos,
but no clue of the basics and no idea how to use the information provided. It's a symptom suffered by many Power Boaters. I remember when handheld GPSs came out and the majority of users had no idea what NAD27 was... never mind that you had to have a start waypoint to return to. The "Spaceship" bridge phase of sailing will hopefully be a short one..... otherwise many people will go broke updating electronic equipment every 2 years. Massive amounts of the latest electronic navigation equipment for a coastal sailing vessel generally indicates the level of incompetence of the owner. That kind of stuff belongs on a power boat. BTW- I have found out that people who do not use their sounder very much while sailing ...generally are much more attentive to their chart and charted soundings.. ergo less likely to hit bottom as often. It's just a personal observation. CM "Scotty" wrote in message ... To each his own. I don't think I used my GPS once, last season, but I stay within the Chess. Bay and use paper charts. I always have the log on, for speed readings. I also use oil lamps and try to keep battery consumption as low as possible since I generally motor less than 10 minutes out of the slip. I get a kick out of putzes who NEED all the latest , best electronic gizmos but don't really sail anywhere. My slip neighbor with a Bendy 36 has his pedestal so full of stuff it looks vulgar, yet he barely sails at all. But, it's his boat, so , ''whatever floats your boat.''... Scotty "Capt.Mooron" wrote in message news:Pl2Vf.8881$%H.206@clgrps13... Simply put..... I keep it to a minimum.... no undue electronics.. I went through that phase. No sir.... I'm not a fan. Unless it's absolutely required for the journey, I don't want it aboard. My goal is to reduce the electronics onboard to a bare minimum. I study the charts and use them to reference triangulations by bearing fixes. I carry a spare handheld GPS.. but hardly use it. I almost never have either log nor depth turned on while underway. Radar is the only exception I will make since it is almost mandatory in my heavy fog area with the possibility of high speed vessels navigating on GPS Chart Plotters [few have the radar ability] I do have full electronics aboard and have used a laptop before... you can have it.. it's a bother and of little benefit. I'm leaning towards oil lamps... even down to oil/kerosene nav lights as primary with electronic back-up secondary. Electronics are for Power Boaters... they run on power and they need the data ASAP at their speed. I'm out for the pleasure of sailing and take my time.... since I have the time it takes. CM "Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ... God yes CM. Electronic charts are great. They are FREE, portable and with the right software they talk to you. Did I mention electronic charts are FREE now? I am so tired of storing paper charts. I just spent a few hours throwing out charts last week and I wish I could toss them all out.. I have so many I could heat my house with them. Get rid of them? Absolutely, and good riddance. Power boater? Heck, those are the people with room to store and lay out paper charts. And finally, please don't ever compare me to Swabbie. You really wounded me with that one. I'll never forgive you. grin What about the rest of it CM? Do you use digital communication on Overproof? What about music? That is the main reason I've been building up this little laptop I was given. I just need an Echo Indigo PC Card and I'll be done with hardware upgrades. It will be the perfect little music system for the boat. And yes it will be my back of navigation system. "Capt.Mooron" wrote Electronic Charts???? Fricken Power Boater!!! You're starting to sound like Bobsprit!!! "Bart Senior" .@. wrote Lots of you must be using a laptop for a chart display. Particularly now that electronic charts are free. What software are you running on your laptop? Here is what I'm using. Nobeltec, Winlink, Waypoint+, iTunes Things I'm looking at: http://www.hffax.de/index.html http://www.waypoint.org/ |
Interesting things you can't do with a Laptop
"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message news:zehVf.4455$B_1.2384@edtnps89... Kind of like Bobsprit..... Who? BTW- I have found out that people who do not use their sounder very much while sailing ...generally are much more attentive to their chart and charted soundings.. ergo less likely to hit bottom as often. It's just a personal observation. My sounder doesn't work half the time, so I leave it off. I find that I give lots more room to bars/reefs than maybe I need to. So what. Scotty |
Interesting things you can do with a Laptop
Are there free charts for central America and the Carribean? I have
been using the free SeaQuest chart plotting softwa http://www.sping.com/seaclear/ and using the free NOAA charts for continental US... |
Interesting things you can do with a Laptop
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:19:18 GMT, "Capt.Mooron"
wrote: Electronic Charts???? Fricken Power Boater!!! The first time I saw them was on a sailing vessel. I was amazed. Guy started with the Gulf of Mexico and just kept punching the drill down button until he got to the farewell buoy for the Gulfport small craft harbor. You're starting to sound like Bobsprit!!! No maybe you are. It may take a large hook retractor to get that thing out of my mouth. Frank CM "Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ... Lots of you must be using a laptop for a chart display. Particularly now that electronic charts are free. What software are you running on your laptop? Here is what I'm using. Nobeltec, Winlink, Waypoint+, iTunes Things I'm looking at: http://www.hffax.de/index.html http://www.waypoint.org/ |
Interesting things you can do with a Laptop
Next thing you know Frank.... you'll be sailing a totally automated,
electronic miracle.... then the power will fail. I agree it's cool stuff... next year's models will be even cooler. It's almost required on a power boat, due to the inherent incompetence portrayed by a large number of their ilk. Seriously... I am dedicated to removing all but the most basic electronic systems aboard. There is no way you will convince me that a cluster of digital instruments is either required nor denotes a better standard of sailing/navigation. If such was the case... Bobsprit would surely hold court. Stick to the Basics.... CM "Frank Boettcher" wrote in message ... On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:19:18 GMT, "Capt.Mooron" wrote: Electronic Charts???? Fricken Power Boater!!! The first time I saw them was on a sailing vessel. I was amazed. Guy started with the Gulf of Mexico and just kept punching the drill down button until he got to the farewell buoy for the Gulfport small craft harbor. You're starting to sound like Bobsprit!!! No maybe you are. It may take a large hook retractor to get that thing out of my mouth. Frank CM "Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ... Lots of you must be using a laptop for a chart display. Particularly now that electronic charts are free. What software are you running on your laptop? Here is what I'm using. Nobeltec, Winlink, Waypoint+, iTunes Things I'm looking at: http://www.hffax.de/index.html http://www.waypoint.org/ |
Interesting things you can't do with a Laptop
"Scotty" wrote in message
"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message Kind of like Bobsprit..... Who? The big dumpy guy that buffs hulls with an industrial grade grinder in NYC. BTW- I have found out that people who do not use their sounder very much while sailing ...generally are much more attentive to their chart and charted soundings.. ergo less likely to hit bottom as often. It's just a personal observation. My sounder doesn't work half the time, so I leave it off. I find that I give lots more room to bars/reefs than maybe I need to. So what. Yes Sir! .. there is nothing more Manly than sailing using only your ability to read the wind, the water and the boat. I laugh at the neck craners keeping an eye on the indicator at the mast head... the instrument gawkers who constantly flick between instruments. The shavers who press tight to foul ground following the limits of their instrument read-outs! CM |
Interesting things you can do with a Laptop
Stick to the Basics....
CM You do not have roller furlers do you? Joe |
Interesting things you can do with a Laptop
I hank my sails on like any real man would elect to do.... had he the
opportunity. CM "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... Stick to the Basics.... CM You do not have roller furlers do you? Joe |
Interesting things you can do with a Laptop
thanks Katy, and Scotty.
Scout "katy" wrote in message ... Scout wrote: Bart, do you have a link for those free charts? Scout "Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ... Lots of you must be using a laptop for a chart display. Particularly now that electronic charts are free. What software are you running on your laptop? Here is what I'm using. Nobeltec, Winlink, Waypoint+, iTunes Things I'm looking at: http://www.hffax.de/index.html http://www.waypoint.org/ NOAA: http://www.nauticalcharts.gov/viewer...CoastTable.htm |
Interesting things you can do with a Laptop
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 02:16:03 GMT, "Capt.Mooron"
wrote: Next thing you know Frank.... you'll be sailing a totally automated, electronic miracle.... then the power will fail. statistically possible, but not necessarily probable. I agree it's cool stuff... next year's models will be even cooler. It's almost required on a power boat, due to the inherent incompetence portrayed by a large number of their ilk. Seriously... I am dedicated to removing all but the most basic electronic systems aboard. So you don't use GPS or autopilot, or the two integrated with electronic charts? Certainly, they are not necessary for offshore, but in some areas of coastal cruising they are a delightful. If you sail in an area where every approach is a potential grounding, having electronic help in the form of established waypoints and up to date notice to mariners would be considered a good thing, wouldn't it.? I chartered a week in the Sea of Abaco a few years ago and don't know how they could charter the area before the electronic aids. Everybody would stay fetched up on sand bars all the time. There is no way you will convince me that a cluster of digital instruments is either required nor denotes a better standard of sailing/navigation. If such was the case... Bobsprit would surely hold court. I made the transition from RDF to ADF to Loran to GPS. Never felt like I was losing anything during the progression. With regard to Bobsprit, of course, I've never had an entertainment center aboard any boat I've owned or chartered Stick to the Basics.... Learn the basics thoroughly, but take advantage of technology improvements. CM "Frank Boettcher" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:19:18 GMT, "Capt.Mooron" wrote: Electronic Charts???? Fricken Power Boater!!! The first time I saw them was on a sailing vessel. I was amazed. Guy started with the Gulf of Mexico and just kept punching the drill down button until he got to the farewell buoy for the Gulfport small craft harbor. You're starting to sound like Bobsprit!!! No maybe you are. It may take a large hook retractor to get that thing out of my mouth. Frank CM "Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ... Lots of you must be using a laptop for a chart display. Particularly now that electronic charts are free. What software are you running on your laptop? Here is what I'm using. Nobeltec, Winlink, Waypoint+, iTunes Things I'm looking at: http://www.hffax.de/index.html http://www.waypoint.org/ |
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