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USCG " many intelligence gaps" in Port Deal. New opinion now classified.
Dubai deal had Coast Guard at sea - pol BY KENNETH R. BAZINET and MICHAEL McAULIFF DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU WASHINGTON - The Coast Guard feared it didn't have enough intel to decide whether Dubai's purchase of U.S. port operations posed a terrorist threat to the nation, a Republican senator revealed yesterday. "There are many intelligence gaps, concerning the potential for DPW [Dubai Ports World] or P&O [Peninsular and Oriental] assets to support terrorist operations, that precludes an overall threat assessment," says a Coast Guard memo released by Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine). Collins revealed the contents of the declassified memo at a Senate homeland security hearing as the White House hinted it could kill any legislation aimed at stopping Dubai Ports World from buying facilities now run by England's P&O ports. The Coast Guard last night said the document Collins cited was written early in its initial review and does not reflect the final, classified analysis. "This transaction, when taking into account strong security assurances by DP World, does not compromise U.S. security," a Coast Guard spokesman, Commander Jeff Carter, said in a statement. After Collins made her disclosure yesterday, the Coast Guard gave her and other senators a briefing behind closed doors on its classified report. But when Collins emerged, she wasn't satisfied by what she heard. "I am more convinced than ever that the process was truly flawed," said Collins. Rep. Pete King (R-L.I.), her counterpart on the House Homeland Security Committee, scoffed at the White House's new probe of the port deal. "They seem to be interpreting 'investigation' as an opportunity to educate us," he said. "It's a very condescending position." The latest developments came as the White House showed signs of getting on top of the furor over the deal, with DP World's agreement over the weekend to a retroactive 45-day investigation of its purchase. That news prompted Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.) to soften his stance on the deal after first threatening to deep-six it with legislation. The White House believes that threat is all but dead. "Sen. Frist has said that he will ask the Senate to hold off on legislation," said White House spokesman Scott McClellan. A source confirmed the administration believes Frist will stop any bills from coming to a vote, such as a bipartisan measure introduced yesterday by Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.). |
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USCG " many intelligence gaps" in Port Deal. New opinion now classified.
Yeah, I just heard this last night. My question is why did Bush lie about it
when he said everyone was aboard with the plan? Or, was he misinformed, dumb, or making things up... it just makes no sense. Even Rove would know that this would come out quickly. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... Dubai deal had Coast Guard at sea - pol BY KENNETH R. BAZINET and MICHAEL McAULIFF DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU WASHINGTON - The Coast Guard feared it didn't have enough intel to decide whether Dubai's purchase of U.S. port operations posed a terrorist threat to the nation, a Republican senator revealed yesterday. "There are many intelligence gaps, concerning the potential for DPW [Dubai Ports World] or P&O [Peninsular and Oriental] assets to support terrorist operations, that precludes an overall threat assessment," says a Coast Guard memo released by Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine). Collins revealed the contents of the declassified memo at a Senate homeland security hearing as the White House hinted it could kill any legislation aimed at stopping Dubai Ports World from buying facilities now run by England's P&O ports. The Coast Guard last night said the document Collins cited was written early in its initial review and does not reflect the final, classified analysis. "This transaction, when taking into account strong security assurances by DP World, does not compromise U.S. security," a Coast Guard spokesman, Commander Jeff Carter, said in a statement. After Collins made her disclosure yesterday, the Coast Guard gave her and other senators a briefing behind closed doors on its classified report. But when Collins emerged, she wasn't satisfied by what she heard. "I am more convinced than ever that the process was truly flawed," said Collins. Rep. Pete King (R-L.I.), her counterpart on the House Homeland Security Committee, scoffed at the White House's new probe of the port deal. "They seem to be interpreting 'investigation' as an opportunity to educate us," he said. "It's a very condescending position." The latest developments came as the White House showed signs of getting on top of the furor over the deal, with DP World's agreement over the weekend to a retroactive 45-day investigation of its purchase. That news prompted Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.) to soften his stance on the deal after first threatening to deep-six it with legislation. The White House believes that threat is all but dead. "Sen. Frist has said that he will ask the Senate to hold off on legislation," said White House spokesman Scott McClellan. A source confirmed the administration believes Frist will stop any bills from coming to a vote, such as a bipartisan measure introduced yesterday by Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.). |
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USCG " many intelligence gaps" in Port Deal. New opinion now classified.
"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... Yeah, I just heard this last night. My question is why did Bush lie about it when he said everyone was aboard with the plan? Or, was he misinformed, dumb, or making things up... it just makes no sense. Even Rove would know that this would come out quickly. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com Arrogance. Rove is probably the most arrogant of the bunch. John Cairns |
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USCG " many intelligence gaps" in Port Deal. New opinion now classified.
"Capt. JG" wrote
...... My question is why did Bush lie about it ..... Politicians react differently than other people. If I ask -say- your age, your first response is likely the truth. That's so common that police and courts put more faith in it (Raes Gestae (sp?) evidence) than other testimony. With sociopaths like Bush just the opposite is true - their first instinct is to lie. Oddly, we all know this yet our own tendency toward honesty misleads us into believing them. Think about it. Given the man's track record of whoppers why do we expect anything but lies? |
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USCG " many intelligence gaps" in Port Deal. New opinion nowclassified.
"Capt. JG" wrote
...... My question is why did Bush lie about it ..... Vito wrote: Politicians react differently than other people. If I ask -say- your age, your first response is likely the truth. That's so common that police and courts put more faith in it (Raes Gestae (sp?) evidence) than other testimony. With sociopaths like Bush just the opposite is true - their first instinct is to lie. I disagree strongly. I don't think President Bush lies deliberately at all. It's more like what you get if you ask a precocious 5 year old to solve a calculus equation. One key point is that Bush *believes* what he's saying. I'm sure he honestly did think that Saddam's WMD's were the biggest threat to America. He is at the mercy of his advisors & what they tell him. I'm equally sure that he thought his energy policy from 2000 to 2005 was the best thing for America, and sees no contradiction at all with his statements on energy policy for 2006 (which sounded like an Al Gore speech from 1999). Oddly, we all know this yet our own tendency toward honesty misleads us into believing them. Think about it. Given the man's track record of whoppers why do we expect anything but lies? It's not the first time we have had a President who was largely a figurehead. It's not the first time we have had a President who was a figurehead for rapacious profiteers. However, it is the first time (that I know of) we have been in such a position politically, economically, militarily, all at once. Bad luck? DSK |
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USCG " many intelligence gaps" in Port Deal. New opinion now classified.
DSK wrote:
It's not the first time we have had a President who was largely a figurehead. It's not the first time we have had a President who was a figurehead for rapacious profiteers. Yeah, but certainly not since WWII and probably not since the 19th century. I don't think Harding was this bad. However, it is the first time (that I know of) we have been in such a position politically, economically, militarily, all at once. Bad luck? Criminal negligance on the part of the Silent, Boomer, and post Boomer generations, namely most of the people born from 1925 to the early 80's. Never have there been so many Americans with their collective heads up their collective asses. My Silent generation parents have done what they do best, remaining silent. My Dad said point blank that he didn't want to know what was going on. Doesn't prevent them from stating the most idiot ignorance based opinions possible. Boomers have been incredibly narrowly focused on their own pet issues to the exclusion of all else, particularly the right wing 'christians' and their dream of an American theocracy. Post boomers have done what the Lost generation and all other previous post Boomer-type generations have done: concentrate on surviving day to day and trying not to think about the future. |
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USCG " many intelligence gaps" in Port Deal. New opinion now classified.
"DSK" wrote
I disagree strongly. I don't think President Bush lies deliberately at all. ..... One key point is that Bush *believes* what he's saying..... Our positions are not necessarily mutualy exclusive. I've had the misfortune to know a couple people like Bush personally. Again, if one asks most people a simple question they will instinctively tell the truth unless that truth threatens them. You or I could easily claim to have 120 ft crewed yachts instead of my old catalina or your trawler but we do not. Some might argue that our parents crippled us by instilling an instinctive honesty. Pathological liars do not share that liability - the give answers they believe best suit their own interests. It may even be true, or partly true, sometimes. Then they convince themselves it is true, eventually loosing track of what is real and what is not. As you say, Bush could pass a lie detector test claiming that Saddam had WMDs he was about to share with bin Ladin. That's what makes them different than garden variety liars (Like Clinton and his BJ) and also so dangerous. |
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USCG " many intelligence gaps" in Port Deal. New opinion nowclassified.
Vito wrote:
Pathological liars do not share that liability - the give answers they believe best suit their own interests. It may even be true, or partly true, sometimes. Then they convince themselves it is true, eventually loosing track of what is real and what is not. You talking about GW or Bubbles? Cheers Marty |
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