"katy" wrote
wrote:
Criminal negligance on the part of the Silent, Boomer, and post Boomer
generations, namely most of the people born from 1925 to the early
80's. Never have there been so many Americans with their collective
heads up their collective asses.

I disagree with that entirely...those people you speak of are
responsible for the civil rights movement, great scientific gains,
and overall progress....

You're right katy. That's the trouble with youthful ignorance. They don't
believe that just 50 year ago blacks couldn't go to white schools or even drink
from white fountains, that birth control as well as abortion were illegal, that
police commonly beat confessions out of people, that most Americans thot women
couldn't have orgasms, that there was no interstate system or space travel, that
an orange was a treat found in your xmas stocking, nobody'd ever tasted a kiwi,
that not one in ten graduated college, and so on. They expect their "silent"
parents to support them until they are 30. Mark's mommy prolly still washes his
skivies!

My Silent generation parents have done what they do best, remaining
silent. My Dad said point blank that he didn't want to know what was
going on.

Worse yet, it never occurs to them that dad may be burned out from getting his
head busted at demonstrations and his ass busted trying to support and educate
his ungrateful son - that maybe Dad expects HIM to take over where he left off.


Ah, spoiled brat syndrome. .....
You'll get over it when you grow up.

I wonder .....

"Dave" wrote
Not too surprising. They didn't have to live through that disaster first
hand.

Carter didn't create the financial disaster he inherited. When JFK took office
"Sound as a Dollar" was a maxim. Then we overextended ourselves to finance the
Vietnam war, the space program, and LBJ's welfare state, not to mention the Cold
War, without raising taxes to fund these new 'programs'. So, confidence in the
dollar collapsed and Nixon had to take us off the silver standard. The only
thing that saved the dollar was that 'Big Oil' agreed to accept only dollars for
oil.

The government was desperate for money and had only three ways to get it: tax
it, create it or borrow it. They chose to create it, causing inflation, and
borrow it internally, causing high interest rates. Meanwhile 'Big Oil' got to
enjoy a 'shortage' that skyrocketed profits without any investigation.

That's the mess Jimmy Otter inherited and could do little about. Reagan "fixed"
it by going overseas and mortgaging America to borrow $trillions and throw a
party. Bush follows in his footsteps. He even has his own war.

Vito wrote:


Pathological liars do not share that liability - the give answers they believe
best suit their own interests. It may even be true, or partly true, sometimes.
Then they convince themselves it is true, eventually loosing track of what is
real and what is not.


You talking about GW or Bubbles?

Cheers
Marty

Dave wrote:

On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:35:56 -0500, "Vito" wrote:

Carter didn't create the financial disaster he inherited.

Always nice to know what the current fairy tale of the left is.

It never ceases to amaze my how many people can ascribe the economic
tides of the world to a single individual: If you're a left wingnut than
it wasn't Carters fault, if you're a a right wing whacko then JWB didn't
do it, it was all Clintons' fault.

The last guy that had that kind of power spoke German and didn't last
too long.

Cheers
Marty

Dave wrote:

On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 08:28:36 -0800, "Capt. JG" said:

Yeah, I just heard this last night. My question is why did Bush lie about it
when he said everyone was aboard with the plan? Or, was he misinformed,
dumb, or making things up... it just makes no sense. Even Rove would know
that this would come out quickly.

I suspect we have here another instance of what we're seeing a lot of
lately--the bureaucrat who voices his views in the process of an agency's
reaching its final conclusion, doesn't prevail in the final analysis, and
decides to take his views to the press. It should definitely not be a
career-enhancing move for the leaking bureaucrat.


I don't often agree with you Dave, but here I think you're correct. For
crying out loud something on the order of 80, yes eighty of your major
ports are already operated by foreign firms, what's five more? The port
operators are not responsible for security, customs, screening of
containers, scrutinizing ship's manifests or crew lists, these duties
all fall to various Federal agencies.

What we are seeing here is typical posturing and blustering by
politicians from both sides, they are taking advantage of the rather
gullible mainstream media and the now frightened and paranoid general
populace's ignorance.

Cheers
Marty

Well, he lasted from 1933 to 1945. Seems to me that was plenty long enough.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
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Dave wrote:

On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:35:56 -0500, "Vito" wrote:

Carter didn't create the financial disaster he inherited.

Always nice to know what the current fairy tale of the left is.

It never ceases to amaze my how many people can ascribe the economic
tides of the world to a single individual: If you're a left wingnut than
it wasn't Carters fault, if you're a a right wing whacko then JWB didn't
do it, it was all Clintons' fault.

The last guy that had that kind of power spoke German and didn't last
too long.

Cheers
Marty

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
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Dave wrote:

On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:35:56 -0500, "Vito" wrote:

Carter didn't create the financial disaster he inherited.

Always nice to know what the current fairy tale of the left is.

It never ceases to amaze my how many people can ascribe the economic
tides of the world to a single individual: If you're a left wingnut than
it wasn't Carters fault, if you're a a right wing whacko then JWB didn't
do it, it was all Clintons' fault.

The last guy that had that kind of power spoke German and didn't last
too long.

Well, he lasted from 1933 to 1945. Seems to me that was plenty long
enough.

About 12 years too long.

Max

"Dave" wrote...
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:35:56 -0500, "Vito" wrote:

Carter didn't create the financial disaster he inherited.

Always nice to know what the current fairy tale of the left is.

This from guy who believes a man named Jesus died for his sins and will take
him to heaven.

"Martin Baxter" wrote
Dave wrote:
"Vito" wrote:

Carter didn't create the financial disaster he inherited.

Always nice to know what the current fairy tale of the left is.

It never ceases to amaze my how many people can ascribe the economic
tides of the world to a single individual: If you're a left wingnut than
it wasn't Carters fault, if you're a a right wing whacko then JWB didn't
do it, it was all Clintons' fault.

True. But one needn't be a left wing nut to agree with you and say that Carter
himself didn't create the problems he inherited. One simply needs to be
realistic. FWIW I'm a Goldwater Conservative.

Vito wrote:

"Martin Baxter" wrote
Dave wrote:
"Vito" wrote:

Carter didn't create the financial disaster he inherited.

Always nice to know what the current fairy tale of the left is.

It never ceases to amaze my how many people can ascribe the economic
tides of the world to a single individual: If you're a left wingnut than
it wasn't Carters fault, if you're a a right wing whacko then JWB didn't
do it, it was all Clintons' fault.

True. But one needn't be a left wing nut to agree with you and say that Carter
himself didn't create the problems he inherited. One simply needs to be
realistic. FWIW I'm a Goldwater Conservative.

I rather liked what Goldwater stood for, but he seemed to scare the hell
out of a lot of voters; could of had something to do with that ad where
the little girl gets vaporized in an atomic explosion. ;-)

Cheers
Marty