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Perry Design Review: Bavaria 38
Carefully detailed, sturdy cruiser with remarkable layout 1/1998 by Bob Perry Sailing Classic forms will not work on a 38-foot center-cockpit boat if you expect the boat to compete with the interiors of current Euro-style models. There are just no traditional models for this type of volumetric distribution. Most of the Euro-styled models marketed in the United States push interior volumes to new levels so that the interior of a modern 38 rivals the interiors of older 45-footers. This requires careful manipulation of aesthetic elements. I think the J&J design group has done an excellent job with the look of this basically chubby-proportioned boat. I say chubby because the beam is 13 feet, 1 inch on an LOA of 38 feet, 6 inches. This hull is not svelte by any standard. Side decks are modest but useable. The cabin trunk perimeter at the deck usually governs sheeting angles because it limits chainplate and jib-track placement. In this case the sheeting angle to the chainplates is almost 16 degrees. I try for 12.5 to 13 degrees on most designs to ensure tight sheeting of genoas. Of course for a pure cruising boat of corpulent proportions, tight sheeting angles might be unimportant. The toughest part of this type of deck design is incorporating a cockpit that does not resemble a hot tub in its dimensions. Any divot that the cockpit takes out of the cabintrunk will be a direct reduction of useable volume below. The Bavaria 38 cockpit avoids this pitfall and shows a relatively roomy cockpit with angles and faceted seat backs. While the seats appear narrow, they are long enough to stretch out on for a nap. All in all it's a well-proportioned cabintrunk that belies the volume contained. Note the fixed windshield and recessed bow well for chain and rode. The photos of the Bavaria's interior show beautifully detailed joinerwork with solid wood trim and veneered surfaces. The layout is remarkable for a boat this size. There are accommodations for two couples with the forward V-berth converting to a double berth with the addition of a filler piece. Nothing seems undersized below. There is a head with adjoining shower stall that would do justice to a much larger boat. A distinct advantage of the center-cockpit configuration is the ability to create a separate engine room under the cockpit. This gives excellent access to the machinery. The galley, while not huge, is generous in size and features many drawers and lockers. The rig is unusual: an almost-masthead fractional rig. I'm not sure what the advantage is with this minimal offset. Why not just go to a straight masthead arrangement? The mainsheet traveler can be aft of the cockpit and at the end of the boom in this center-cockpit layout. This is far better than the usual midboom sheeting we see today. The SA/D is 17.8. The keel and rudder look as though they were designed for performance. Two keels are available: a deep draft of 6 feet 4 inches; and a shoal draft of 5 feet 1 inch. The D/L is 215. Structurally the Bavaria complies with Germanischer Lloyds requirements. There is even a Kevlar layer in the bow to enhance the impact resistance of the hull shell forward. The Bavaria appears to be a carefully detailed design that will appeal to families looking for a comfortable and strong cruising boat with far better than average accommodations. Carefully detailed, sturdy cruiser with remarkable layout. LOA 38'6" LWL 32'7" Beam 13'1" Draft 6'5" (deep draft), 5'1" (shoal draft) Displacement 16,537.5 lbs. Ballast 6,394.5 lbs. Sail Area 722.15 sq. ft. SA/D 17.8 D/L 215 L/B 2.94 Auxiliary Volvo Penta MD22L 50-horsepower diesel Fuel 58.08 gals. Water 102.96 gals. Wow! And this interior didn't win any awards????? http://www.abavela.com/boats/bavaria38/bav38_salon.jpg This is a real swim platform: http://www.nautic-tours.de/Schiffe/B...a38Match-b.gif http://www.anchorlift.com/web/pictur...Bavaria_38.jpg The head is so large one can fart and hear the echo! http://www.charterlink.co.nz/boats/P...0head%20lr.jpg http://www.dalmatiancoast.com/holida...1050/38-wc.JPG Three cabins! Three cabins!!!!! True luxury!!! For just dollars more than a 35s5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What was Robbie thinking????????? Amen! |
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"Bob Crantz" wrote in message ink.net... For just dollars more than a 35s5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What was Robbie thinking????????? He was thinking that sooner or later the kid would destroy the big-screen TV and he'd have to put in a megabuck front projection unit, thus leaving too little money to buy a really fine yacht, like Ozzy's new Bavaria. Max |
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He was thinking that sooner or later the kid would destroy the
big-screen TV and he'd have to put in a megabuck front projection unit Hey, that's exactly what I was gonna post! Well, one thing's for sure. Ozzy and I both have nicer boats than Bob Crantz! But which Bavaria 38 did Ozzy buy? RB 35s5 NY |
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OzOne wrote in message Not the one Bob showed. Mine has a normal aft cockpit and the galley is U shaped just port of the companionway steps. It would also be the Exclusive....best of everything incl SS plow and chain, instrument pack, cabin heater etc etc etc.... Heh Ozone..... it's good to see Bob considers your Bavaria as comparable to his 35s5. Please don't point out that your Bavaria has real wood inside... Bobsprit is a little touchy since he found out that was imitation woodgrain imprinted shelf liner on his boat. I've tried to tell him not to worry... he still has the "honeycombed" bulkheads and swimplatform to ride on. Good to see you back. CM |
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Hey OZ are you sure that anchor is not CHROME...
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Bavaria has real wood inside...
Bobsprit is a little touchy since he found out that was imitation woodgrain imprinted shelf liner on his boat. I've tried to tell him not to worry... he still has the "honeycombed" bulkheads and swimplatform to ride on. BTW, I see that the Bavaria 38 is yet another boat with a 3 cabin charter verson. Guess what? No room for me to sleep yet again. Still worse, the boat is expensive. What did Ozzy pay? He said less than 100K, which still sounds like a Express 30 more worth! I do like the Bavaria boats, but we couldn't do anything over 37 feet due to our slip constraints. I'll say one thing, it's not very fast for it's size compared to a First 36.7. Then again Ozzy makes money with his boats so that's not a concern. Anyway...that Bavaria's swim platform makes her a 35 footer, right? RB 35s5 NY |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... He was thinking that sooner or later the kid would destroy the big-screen TV and he'd have to put in a megabuck front projection unit Hey, that's exactly what I was gonna post! Well, one thing's for sure. Ozzy and I both have nicer boats than Bob Crantz! That's debatable. But which Bavaria 38 did Ozzy buy? RB 35s5 NY |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... Bavaria has real wood inside... Bobsprit is a little touchy since he found out that was imitation woodgrain imprinted shelf liner on his boat. I've tried to tell him not to worry... he still has the "honeycombed" bulkheads and swimplatform to ride on. BTW, I see that the Bavaria 38 is yet another boat with a 3 cabin charter verson. Guess what? No room for me to sleep yet again. Still worse, the boat is expensive. What did Ozzy pay? He said less than 100K, which still sounds like a Express 30 more worth! I do like the Bavaria boats, but we couldn't do anything over 37 feet due to our slip constraints. I'll say one thing, it's not very fast for it's size compared to a First 36.7. Then again Ozzy makes money with his boats so that's not a concern. Anyway...that Bavaria's swim platform makes her a 35 footer, right? Man I'd love to see a comparison of the crew condition/moral between a 35s5 and a Bavaria after a Trans Pacific. I bet the crew on the 35s5 wouldn't be anywhere near as beat due to the ease of cleaning the interior. What was Ozone thinking??? He'll be elbow deep in wood work for the next 5 years.!!!??? CM |
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What a **** poor short reign RB had on the "best boat". In fact, he didn't even get it into the water before being easily outdone. Let's see: RB's boat : sits in storage Ozzie's 38 : sailing across the Pacific. RB is the tidy bowl sailor for sure! aahahaaaahaaaaahaaahaaaaaaaahaaaaaahaaaahaahaaaa!! ! Ozzies boat has more miles under the keel in the month after he purchases it than RB's boat will have for the duration of his ownership!!!! aaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaha aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaahahahahaahahahahaaaaaaaaa aaa!!!!!!! Lloyd Bonafide |
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I'm confident that Bobsprit will eventually leave the confines of his bay by
boat..... Dollars to Doughnuts.. it's a Cruise Ship! Bobsprit will then have a revelation... that he is indeed a Power Boater!! He'll sell the 35s5 and buy a Nordhaven Trawler! CM "Lloyd Bonafide" wrote in message ... ahahahahahahahahahaaahaaaahaahaaaaaahaaaaaaaaa!!!! ! What a **** poor short reign RB had on the "best boat". In fact, he didn't even get it into the water before being easily outdone. Let's see: RB's boat : sits in storage Ozzie's 38 : sailing across the Pacific. RB is the tidy bowl sailor for sure! aahahaaaahaaaaahaaahaaaaaaaahaaaaaahaaaahaahaaaa!! ! Ozzies boat has more miles under the keel in the month after he purchases it than RB's boat will have for the duration of his ownership!!!! aaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaha aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaahahahahaahahahahaaaaaaaaa aaa!!!!!!! Lloyd Bonafide |
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