Hi all,
I've been invited to crew on a 31' mono on the weekend for some
offshore racing near sydney. Last couple of times i went out on monos
in new zealand i wore what i wear on my boat (small catamaran) which is
a 3mm wetsuit and booties. The rest of the crew had a good laugh at my
expense until the weather turned to poo and no-one had any foulies. I
was smiling the rest of the day while most were shivering.

what do people wear on these boats? does everyone just wear normal
clothes (jeans/shirts?) and have a pair of foulies to wear on top? Id
rather be warm and look silly than the other way around.... any
suggestions?

Thanks,
Shaun

Wear anything you like under your Blue Blazer.

SV


"imagineero" wrote in message
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Hi all,
I've been invited to crew on a 31' mono on the weekend for
some
offshore racing near sydney. Last couple of times i went
out on monos
in new zealand i wore what i wear on my boat (small
catamaran) which is
a 3mm wetsuit and booties. The rest of the crew had a good
laugh at my
expense until the weather turned to poo and no-one had any
foulies. I
was smiling the rest of the day while most were shivering.

what do people wear on these boats? does everyone just
wear normal
clothes (jeans/shirts?) and have a pair of foulies to wear
on top? Id
rather be warm and look silly than the other way
around.... any
suggestions?

Thanks,
Shaun

I say you wear what you are comfortable in and allows you to do your job
well.

Take warm clothes, and maybe even some dry clothes incase you get too wet,
foulies. Stay warm, cause once you get cold it is hard to warm up.

--
Albert Frankenstein

Annoy a liberal: Work. Succeed. Be happy.

"imagineero" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi all,
I've been invited to crew on a 31' mono on the weekend for some
offshore racing near sydney. Last couple of times i went out on monos
in new zealand i wore what i wear on my boat (small catamaran) which is
a 3mm wetsuit and booties. The rest of the crew had a good laugh at my
expense until the weather turned to poo and no-one had any foulies. I
was smiling the rest of the day while most were shivering.

what do people wear on these boats? does everyone just wear normal
clothes (jeans/shirts?) and have a pair of foulies to wear on top? Id
rather be warm and look silly than the other way around.... any
suggestions?

Thanks,
Shaun

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imagineero wrote:
Hi all,
I've been invited to crew on a 31' mono on the weekend for some
offshore racing near sydney. Last couple of times i went out on monos
in new zealand i wore what i wear on my boat (small catamaran) which is
a 3mm wetsuit and booties. The rest of the crew had a good laugh at my
expense until the weather turned to poo and no-one had any foulies. I
was smiling the rest of the day while most were shivering.

what do people wear on these boats? does everyone just wear normal
clothes (jeans/shirts?) and have a pair of foulies to wear on top? Id
rather be warm and look silly than the other way around.... any
suggestions?

Thanks,
Shaun

Cotton kills. Wear layers. I usually bring a smallish bag. Don't know
about Sydney weather, but where we sail, it can go from 80 deg. to 50
in short order.




--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com

Synthetic pile with windshell.

Avoid Goretex.



"imagineero" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi all,
I've been invited to crew on a 31' mono on the weekend for some
offshore racing near sydney. Last couple of times i went out on monos
in new zealand i wore what i wear on my boat (small catamaran) which is
a 3mm wetsuit and booties. The rest of the crew had a good laugh at my
expense until the weather turned to poo and no-one had any foulies. I
was smiling the rest of the day while most were shivering.

what do people wear on these boats? does everyone just wear normal
clothes (jeans/shirts?) and have a pair of foulies to wear on top? Id
rather be warm and look silly than the other way around.... any
suggestions?

Thanks,
Shaun

imagineero wrote:

what do people wear on these boats? does everyone just wear normal
clothes (jeans/shirts?) and have a pair of foulies to wear on top? Id
rather be warm and look silly than the other way around.... any
suggestions?

Depends on the weather, but I tend to always wear hi-fit foulie trousers
(good for sitting on wet side decks) and woolly socks inside yachtie
wellies. I usually wear thin synthetic thermals next to the skin, polycotton
trousers under the foulie trousers, and a fairly windproof non-waterproof
shirt. If it's wet or the wind is cold, a jacket on top. I rarely feel a
need for a fleece, other than a fleece hat if it's chilly. (Europe, 56degN.
Most sailing has been round-the-cans racing, so not much time to sit about
and get cold.)


--
Capt Scumbalino

Bob,
What's the beef with Goretex? In my previous life in mechanical contracting,
I spent many hours on commercial /industial rooftops wearing a t-shirt under
a Goretex/Thinsulate coat from Cabelas. In one memorable experience, after
12 hours in a cold, driving rain, I was still warm and dry in my t-shirt. My
only complaint was that once it got dirty, it was hard to recapture its
original efficacy.
Scout

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
nk.net...
Synthetic pile with windshell.

Avoid Goretex.



"imagineero" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi all,
I've been invited to crew on a 31' mono on the weekend for some
offshore racing near sydney. Last couple of times i went out on monos
in new zealand i wore what i wear on my boat (small catamaran) which is
a 3mm wetsuit and booties. The rest of the crew had a good laugh at my
expense until the weather turned to poo and no-one had any foulies. I
was smiling the rest of the day while most were shivering.

what do people wear on these boats? does everyone just wear normal
clothes (jeans/shirts?) and have a pair of foulies to wear on top? Id
rather be warm and look silly than the other way around.... any
suggestions?

Thanks,
Shaun

If you are in a wet environment where water is under pressure it will come
through the GoreTex. It comes through under pack straps, waist belts,
climbing harness and the like. One a bike it will come through the front of
pant legs and the front of jackets.

If you stuff a GoreTex garment into a pack or stuff sack, the GoreTex layer
may rip or break. You will get leaks there. Rough use will make it leak too,
without tearing the fabric.

Gore Tex doesn't vent that well, it relies on body heat to push vapor out.
A good GoreTex jacket for mountaineering or cycling will have armpit zippers
as well as other types of ventilation.

In winter your perspiration will freeze on the Goretex garment and it won't
vent at all.

My past experiences with GoreTex had leaks and poor ventilation.

I use Lowe Ceramic parkas and in really wet environments (Pacific NW)
Chouinard Patagonia rainwear. (I don't know if the Patagonia stuff I use is
still made) The Patagonia rainwear is absolutely impermeable and has armpit
and back vents zips.I do have a GoreTex camo hunting jacket and two Marmot
single layer shells, but hunting you aren't building up much of a sweat and
the Marmots have great ventilation and I haven't been in a steady downpour
in them. I even have two single layer GoreTex tents. They do work pretty
well, they're not right next to the body.

GoreTex is ok, but is pricey (not like it used to be) and works in limited
cases. The garment design is more important than the material, make sure it
can vent.

Amen!




"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
Bob,
What's the beef with Goretex? In my previous life in mechanical
contracting, I spent many hours on commercial /industial rooftops wearing
a t-shirt under a Goretex/Thinsulate coat from Cabelas. In one memorable
experience, after 12 hours in a cold, driving rain, I was still warm and
dry in my t-shirt. My only complaint was that once it got dirty, it was
hard to recapture its original efficacy.
Scout

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
nk.net...
Synthetic pile with windshell.

Avoid Goretex.



"imagineero" wrote in message
ups.com...
Hi all,
I've been invited to crew on a 31' mono on the weekend for some
offshore racing near sydney. Last couple of times i went out on monos
in new zealand i wore what i wear on my boat (small catamaran) which is
a 3mm wetsuit and booties. The rest of the crew had a good laugh at my
expense until the weather turned to poo and no-one had any foulies. I
was smiling the rest of the day while most were shivering.

what do people wear on these boats? does everyone just wear normal
clothes (jeans/shirts?) and have a pair of foulies to wear on top? Id
rather be warm and look silly than the other way around.... any
suggestions?

Thanks,
Shaun

Patagonia's H2No is waterproof and I use it for sailing. Works well
with their Capilene thermals. It's expensive but well worth the $. I
just got a postcard from them; they will be having a sale next week. Go
to: patagonia.com/store/specials/?dealp
Mark

Ive had mixed results with this so-called wonder fabric too... while
there are exceptions to the rule i think you generally get what you pay
for her, and most of the lower end (read sub $400) goretex pants,
jackets etc have a plastic layer somewhere in there. This completely
engates any positive effects of the goretex, you might as well be
wearing a garbage bag. Breathable jackets that really work are pricey
but they are out there.

On the plus side, breathable wonder fabric shirts sure are getting
cheap! I often get them for $10-$15 on sale reduced from $100 or more.
if you're not too fussy on color/style you can be smiling all the way
through the crappy weather ;-)

Shaun