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Capt. Rob January 18th 06 12:48 AM

Why is Doug so Bitter?
 
One word:

Trawler.

There's just no getting away from it....until it runs out of diesel!
Sell it, Doug. Buy what YOU want rather than something with floor
length curtains for the wife. If she won't go for that then lose her
and find a woman who shares your love of sailing or at least respects
it.

Look, Doug...this could be you....
http://www.beneteauclub.net/HideousKinky.jpg
Or this....
http://www.cedarpointyc.org/uploads/Moderation0001.jpg
Or even this....
http://www.sailboatowners.com/boats/...na/38main.jpeg


RB
35s5....a SAIL boat
NY


katy January 18th 06 01:25 AM

Why is Doug so Bitter?
 
Capt. Rob wrote:
One word:

Trawler.

There's just no getting away from it....until it runs out of diesel!
Sell it, Doug. Buy what YOU want rather than something with floor
length curtains for the wife. If she won't go for that then lose her
and find a woman who shares your love of sailing or at least respects
it.

Look, Doug...this could be you....
http://www.beneteauclub.net/HideousKinky.jpg
Or this....
http://www.cedarpointyc.org/uploads/Moderation0001.jpg
Or even this....
http://www.sailboatowners.com/boats/...na/38main.jpeg


RB
35s5....a SAIL boat
NY

Doug's wife sails...very well....she might almost sail better than
he does....
Get a life and write about someone you knoe rather than making lame
speculations about someone you don't know////

Bob Crantz January 18th 06 01:37 AM

Why is Doug so Bitter?
 
Doug has been sailing for many decades. He has cruised, raced, sailed big
and small boats, etc, etc. He strongly resents the mockery and degradation
you make of sailing, let alone the good natured people here.

If you had only an inkling of how revolting and repulsive you've become. You
can't and that's the problem.

You can start with a sincere apology to Doug and to the others you have made
suffer here. You are also an embarrassment to the people you associate with
(and use here) in daily life.

Have you no shame?

Amen!




Capt. Rob January 18th 06 02:21 AM

Why is Doug so Bitter?
 
You can start with a sincere apology to Doug


Dear Doug,

I'm sorry that your life ends with a trawler and also that Katy doesn't
knoe how to spell "know."


RB
35s5
NY


Capt. Rob January 18th 06 02:23 AM

Why is Doug so Bitter?
 
Doug has been sailing for many decades.


How do you know? Because he says so? Do you realize that he used to own
a Hunter 19, a boat he CAREFULLY chose, then claimed he wouldn't buy
again? Note that Doug didn't comment on bad boat decisions HE made.
Some of us have the backbone to call it the way we see it. Luckily you
have me for that, since the rest here are lame beyond words.


RB
35s5
NY


Capt. Rob January 18th 06 02:30 AM

Why is Doug so Bitter?
 

Bob Crantz wrote:
Doug has been sailing for many decades. He has cruised, raced, sailed big
and small boats, etc, etc. He strongly resents the mockery and degradation
you make of sailing, let alone the good natured people here.


Good lord Bob ......thats his problem. All that is important here is
me.


If you had only an inkling of how revolting and repulsive you've become. You
can't and that's the problem.


Everyone loves me here. Without my superior boat and my hand cast this
place would be nothing, you hear me NOTHING!


You can start with a sincere apology to Doug and to the others you have made
suffer here. You are also an embarrassment to the people you associate with
(and use here) in daily life.



The only people who have suffered here are the one who have not seen my
picture yet.


Have you no shame?


Do chickens have lips?

RB
35s5 God loves my boat to..the bible say's it's so!
NY




Amen!



Bob Crantz January 18th 06 02:57 AM

Why is Doug so Bitter?
 
Well, you do have a point.

Amen!

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...

Bob Crantz wrote:
Doug has been sailing for many decades. He has cruised, raced, sailed big
and small boats, etc, etc. He strongly resents the mockery and
degradation
you make of sailing, let alone the good natured people here.


Good lord Bob ......thats his problem. All that is important here is
me.


If you had only an inkling of how revolting and repulsive you've become.
You
can't and that's the problem.


Everyone loves me here. Without my superior boat and my hand cast this
place would be nothing, you hear me NOTHING!


You can start with a sincere apology to Doug and to the others you have
made
suffer here. You are also an embarrassment to the people you associate
with
(and use here) in daily life.



The only people who have suffered here are the one who have not seen my
picture yet.


Have you no shame?


Do chickens have lips?

RB
35s5 God loves my boat to..the bible say's it's so!
NY




Amen!





Janet January 18th 06 04:29 AM

Why is Doug so Bitter?
 
Dunno.

What part of him have you been tasting or don't we need to know?

Janet

DSK January 18th 06 12:03 PM

Why is Doug so Bitter?
 
Doug has been sailing for many decades.


"Capt" Rob wrote:
How do you know? Because he says so?


I guess when you get caught lying so much, "credibility" is
a difficult concept for you to grasp.

.... Do you realize that he used to own
a Hunter 19, a boat he CAREFULLY chose, then claimed he wouldn't buy
again?


That's a lie you've repeated, maybe you believe it.

The Hunter 19 water ballast (1993-95) is a great trailerable
cruiser. Ours sailed more in one year than you do in a decade.

DSK


Capt. Rob January 18th 06 12:24 PM

Why is Doug so Bitter?
 
I guess when you get caught lying so much, "credibility" is
a difficult concept for you to grasp.

Sorry again, Doug, but unless you have a broken back and no money
there's no excuse for buying both the poor sailing Hunter 19 and then
buying a powerboat. You have no credibility at all. The only sailing
you do is on Google.

The Hunter 19 water ballast (1993-95) is a great trailerable
cruiser. Ours sailed more in one year than you do in a decade.

That's a lie you've repeated, maybe you believe it.


RB
35s5...a SAIL boat
NY


DSK January 18th 06 12:36 PM

Why is Doug so Bitter?
 
The Hunter 19 water ballast (1993-95) is a great trailerable
cruiser. Ours sailed more in one year than you do in a decade.


"Capt" Rob wrote:
That's a lie you've repeated, maybe you believe it.


Not a lie at all... try again when you have sailed your own
boat off Nantasket & Tybee Roads, and most places in between.

And until you get a good trailerable, you'll still miss most
of the lovely lakes & rivers in this part of the continent.

DSK


Capt. Rob January 18th 06 12:38 PM

Why is Doug so Bitter?
 
Not a lie at all... try again when you have sailed your own
boat off Nantasket & Tybee Roads, and most places in between.


You may have sailed in more places, but not more. No one here sails as
often as we do, Doug. No one. And you don't sail at all anymore. I know
you'll claim to...and that's fine.


RB
35s5
NY


DSK January 18th 06 12:54 PM

Why is Doug so Bitter?
 
Not a lie at all... try again when you have sailed your own
boat off Nantasket & Tybee Roads, and most places in between.


"Capt" Rob wrote:
You may have sailed in more places


That's awfully big of you, old chap... admitting that I "may
have" sailed more places... gee, and maybe the Pope just
might be Catholic, ya think?

... No one here sails as
often as we do, Doug. No one.


My dog has more miles under sail than you.

DSK


katy January 18th 06 01:00 PM

Why is Doug so Bitter?
 
DSK wrote:
The Hunter 19 water ballast (1993-95) is a great trailerable
cruiser. Ours sailed more in one year than you do in a decade.



"Capt" Rob wrote:

That's a lie you've repeated, maybe you believe it.


Not a lie at all... try again when you have sailed your own boat off
Nantasket & Tybee Roads, and most places in between.

And until you get a good trailerable, you'll still miss most of the
lovely lakes & rivers in this part of the continent.

DSK

He would freak out if the horizon didn't include a skyscraper skyway....

katy January 18th 06 01:01 PM

Why is Doug so Bitter?
 
Capt. Rob wrote:
Not a lie at all... try again when you have sailed your own
boat off Nantasket & Tybee Roads, and most places in between.


You may have sailed in more places, but not more. No one here sails as
often as we do, Doug. No one. And you don't sail at all anymore. I know
you'll claim to...and that's fine.


RB
35s5
NY

I verify that Doug still sails...

Capt. Rob January 18th 06 01:07 PM

Why is Doug so Bitter?
 
He would freak out if the horizon didn't include a skyscraper
skyway....


So now poor Katy is telling anyone who enjoy sailing near a city that
they're doing something wrong!
Good work, Katy!


RB
35s5...a boat for the big city!
NY


DSK January 18th 06 01:15 PM

Why is Doug so Bitter?
 
katysails wrote:
I verify that Doug still sails...


Thank you. I forgive your Bela Lugosi remark...

Uncle Bela was not amused you know...

DSK


katy January 18th 06 02:02 PM

Why is Doug so Bitter?
 
Capt. Rob wrote:
He would freak out if the horizon didn't include a skyscraper
skyway....


So now poor Katy is telling anyone who enjoy sailing near a city that
they're doing something wrong!
Good work, Katy!


RB
35s5...a boat for the big city!
NY

Not saying that at all...I'm just saying YOU would freak out if you
couldn't see them. I'm sure all the other sailors in your area feel
no fear of losing that horizon at all.

Bob Crantz January 18th 06 02:02 PM

Why is Doug so Bitter?
 
Instead of the frequency of your sailing, let's hear about the quality.

So what were you sailing 15 years ago?

Amen!



"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...
Not a lie at all... try again when you have sailed your own
boat off Nantasket & Tybee Roads, and most places in between.


You may have sailed in more places, but not more. No one here sails as
often as we do, Doug. No one. And you don't sail at all anymore. I know
you'll claim to...and that's fine.


RB
35s5
NY




katy January 18th 06 02:03 PM

Why is Doug so Bitter?
 
DSK wrote:
katysails wrote:

I verify that Doug still sails...



Thank you. I forgive your Bela Lugosi remark...

Uncle Bela was not amused you know...

DSK

I don't remember that remark? Was it wine induced?
Besides, he was probably my cousin...

Capt.Mooron January 18th 06 02:06 PM

Why is Doug so Bitter?
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

So now poor Katy is telling anyone who enjoy sailing near a city that
they're doing something wrong!


.....as if you had a choice.

35s5...a boat for the big city!


Bwahahahahahahahaahahahahahahaaaaa.....

CM



Capt. Rob January 18th 06 03:12 PM

Why is Doug so Bitter?
 
they're doing something wrong!

.....as if you had a choice.


I chose to sail in Florida and North Carolina last summer. You chose to
leave your boat ON LAND!!!
Is the interior fixed yet?


RB
35s5
NY


Capt.Mooron January 18th 06 03:55 PM

Why is Doug so Bitter?
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

I chose to sail in Florida and North Carolina last summer.


A demo sail????? Bwahahahahahahahahahahaahaaaaaa. Did they let you steer
and handle the "ropes" too?????

You chose to
leave your boat ON LAND!!!


You chose to leave yours on a trailer..... or the dock when you had one.

Is the interior fixed yet?


If you mean , did I install a home theater, AC, surround sound, intercom,
genset, cheap veneer and enlarge the head to accomodate really fat
people..... Nope!

CM




Capt. Rob January 18th 06 05:18 PM

Why is Doug so Bitter?
 
If you mean , did I install a home theater, AC, surround sound,
intercom,
genset, cheap veneer


I don't have a genset. I don't have surround sound. Many new radios
have the intercom feature...not surprising you don't know about it, old
man! I only have veneer on the honeycombed bulkheads (to save weight).
Sorry if folks over 6 feet tall can't close the door to your head. When
they say Nordic 30's stink they aint kidding!!!
Seriously...did you finish redoing that "poorly done interior" yet???

BWAHAHAHAHA!

RB
35s5
NY


Capt. Rob January 18th 06 05:21 PM

Why is Doug so Bitter?
 
A demo sail????? Bwahahahahahahahahahahaahaaaaaa. Did they let you
steer
and handle the "ropes" too?????

We sailed the 35s5 with her owner and on the sea trial We rented a
Hobie 16 near Salt Creek and did the same in NC. We also sailed a 35s5
here on the LIS and also sailed quite a few other boats.
Your boat sat high and dry and you NEVER sailed!

Don't forget to seal those leaky ports or you'll do that interior
twice!

RB
35s5
NY


Bob Crantz January 18th 06 07:24 PM

Why is Doug so Bitter?
 
Been hitting the bottle again?

http://tinyurl.com/8hs9x



Capt.Mooron January 19th 06 11:56 AM

Why is Doug so Bitter?
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...
If you mean , did I install a home theater, AC, surround sound,
intercom,
genset, cheap veneer


I don't have a genset. I don't have surround sound. Many new radios
have the intercom feature...not surprising you don't know about it, old
man!


Yeah but you are going to put them in... you said as much in previous posts.
Remeber the "horrific" AC comment??

I only have veneer on the honeycombed bulkheads (to save weight).


I doubt there's more than 3 board feet of real wood on your entire vessel.

Sorry if folks over 6 feet tall can't close the door to your head. When
they say Nordic 30's stink they aint kidding!!!


Heh... my head dosen't smell at all..... I quess in part to the fact that
sitting down is stipulated by size and design... not like the head in the
35s5... where a crew member can hose down the TP, Tooth brush rack, towels
and ports with every wake.

Seriously...did you finish redoing that "poorly done interior" yet???


If restoration is required... I at least have the option to sand and
varnish.... while you are relegated to "peel & stick"....

Bwahahahahahahahahahaahaaa

CM



Capt. Rob January 19th 06 12:55 PM

Why is Doug so Bitter?
 
Yeah but you are going to put them in... you said as much in previous
posts.
Remeber the "horrific" AC comment??

As even Jeff admitted, it can be quite oppressive to be below on a boat
baking in 95 degrees. There's nothing healthy about it either. I expect
the AC will be used then. We have no plans for a genset at this time.
Sorry

doubt there's more than 3 board feet of real wood on your entire
vessel.

Doubt all you wish. I'm not even curious about it. I just don't want to
ever own a boat like yours with a poorly built interior, as YOU
admitted. Is yours even half done yet? Fit and finish is not only about
specific materials. More bad news: My honeycomb bulkheads cost more
than your wood by quite a bit.

I quess in part to the fact that
sitting down is stipulated by size and design...


Sorry again, Mooron! You can't lie about this:
http://www.nordicaboats.com/assets/i...ay-sml-opt.jpg
That head is even smaller than the one on the C&C 32. Tall people can't
use it easily and can't close the door. No thanks!

I at least have the option to sand and
varnish.... while you are relegated to "peel & stick"...

As I said, only the bulkheads and sliders are veneer. I can't imagine
why I'd ever have to repair any of them, as they look like brand new
after 16 years. That's proper yacht design, built to last instead of
the following...

"The woodwork inside is not always of the best workmanship and is a
common problem with all Nordicas."

Mooron, you never had a chance after that one!!! You can't talk your
way out of it, you can't bwahahahaha! your way out either. You boat has
BAD workmanship. Period. And after 16 years even well raced 35s5's look
good! Mine looks like new!

RB
35s5
NY


Capt.Mooron January 19th 06 03:08 PM

Why is Doug so Bitter?
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

As even Jeff admitted, it can be quite oppressive to be below on a boat
baking in 95 degrees. There's nothing healthy about it either. I expect
the AC will be used then. We have no plans for a genset at this time.
Sorry


I would imagine that ventilation on a poorly designed vessel with
peel'n'stik decor might become a sweat lodge... but this never happens on
properly designed vessels with quality interiors. Do all the charter boats
in the tropics have AC??

BTW- You'll need the genset since your "superior" design didn't allow for an
extra bank of batteries ... probably due to the fact the manufacturer never
thought you would actually sail the dang thing... they threw in the AC
instead.

Doubt all you wish. I'm not even curious about it. I just don't want to
ever own a boat like yours with a poorly built interior, as YOU
admitted. Is yours even half done yet? Fit and finish is not only about
specific materials. More bad news: My honeycomb bulkheads cost more
than your wood by quite a bit.


Fit and finish has nothing to do with the quality of the real Burmese
Teak..... but Heh... if you're happy the technicians got the edges even on
the peel'n'stik liner... who am I to argue.

Sorry again, Mooron! You can't lie about this:
http://www.nordicaboats.com/assets/i...ay-sml-opt.jpg
That head is even smaller than the one on the C&C 32. Tall people can't
use it easily and can't close the door. No thanks!


Shure they can fit Bobsprit...... as long as they're willing to sit down to
take a dump. Do you stand to take a **** in your head underway? Must make
for a really sanitary condition down below. Oh that's right... you have the
AC and the chill cuts the odour!

As I said, only the bulkheads and sliders are veneer. I can't imagine
why I'd ever have to repair any of them, as they look like brand new
after 16 years. That's proper yacht design, built to last instead of
the following...


Seems they didn't scrimp on the shelf liner when building your boat
Bobsprit!


"The woodwork inside is not always of the best workmanship and is a
common problem with all Nordicas."


Yeah Well.... nonetheless it's real wood. Not that you have any experience
with that.


Mooron, you never had a chance after that one!!! You can't talk your
way out of it, you can't bwahahahaha! your way out either. You boat has
BAD workmanship. Period. And after 16 years even well raced 35s5's look
good! Mine looks like new!


No, No No, Bobsprit... as you pointed out with my own words... the fit and
finish isn't the best... but Buddy.... it's still Way-y-y-y-y-y Better than
any Peel'n'Stik shelf liner with Honeycomb bulkheads.

Bwahahahahahahahaha

By the way... do you need a sheet or two of the "Honey Comb" material. I
have a couple in the shed. Seriously!! I was going to use it to build a
pair of nacelles for my pedal boat.... but heh.. maybe you need the extra
reinforcement.

CM



Bob Crantz January 19th 06 03:27 PM

Why is Doug so Bitter?
 
Actually, a real wood interior is capable of absorbing moisture, is a
natural disenfectant and mold preventer.



"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

As even Jeff admitted, it can be quite oppressive to be below on a boat
baking in 95 degrees. There's nothing healthy about it either. I expect
the AC will be used then. We have no plans for a genset at this time.
Sorry


I would imagine that ventilation on a poorly designed vessel with
peel'n'stik decor might become a sweat lodge... but this never happens on
properly designed vessels with quality interiors. Do all the charter boats
in the tropics have AC??

BTW- You'll need the genset since your "superior" design didn't allow for
an extra bank of batteries ... probably due to the fact the manufacturer
never thought you would actually sail the dang thing... they threw in the
AC instead.

Doubt all you wish. I'm not even curious about it. I just don't want to
ever own a boat like yours with a poorly built interior, as YOU
admitted. Is yours even half done yet? Fit and finish is not only about
specific materials. More bad news: My honeycomb bulkheads cost more
than your wood by quite a bit.


Fit and finish has nothing to do with the quality of the real Burmese
Teak..... but Heh... if you're happy the technicians got the edges even
on the peel'n'stik liner... who am I to argue.

Sorry again, Mooron! You can't lie about this:
http://www.nordicaboats.com/assets/i...ay-sml-opt.jpg
That head is even smaller than the one on the C&C 32. Tall people can't
use it easily and can't close the door. No thanks!


Shure they can fit Bobsprit...... as long as they're willing to sit down
to take a dump. Do you stand to take a **** in your head underway? Must
make for a really sanitary condition down below. Oh that's right... you
have the AC and the chill cuts the odour!

As I said, only the bulkheads and sliders are veneer. I can't imagine
why I'd ever have to repair any of them, as they look like brand new
after 16 years. That's proper yacht design, built to last instead of
the following...


Seems they didn't scrimp on the shelf liner when building your boat
Bobsprit!


"The woodwork inside is not always of the best workmanship and is a
common problem with all Nordicas."


Yeah Well.... nonetheless it's real wood. Not that you have any
experience with that.


Mooron, you never had a chance after that one!!! You can't talk your
way out of it, you can't bwahahahaha! your way out either. You boat has
BAD workmanship. Period. And after 16 years even well raced 35s5's look
good! Mine looks like new!


No, No No, Bobsprit... as you pointed out with my own words... the fit
and finish isn't the best... but Buddy.... it's still Way-y-y-y-y-y Better
than any Peel'n'Stik shelf liner with Honeycomb bulkheads.

Bwahahahahahahahaha

By the way... do you need a sheet or two of the "Honey Comb" material. I
have a couple in the shed. Seriously!! I was going to use it to build a
pair of nacelles for my pedal boat.... but heh.. maybe you need the extra
reinforcement.

CM





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