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Bart Senior January 13th 06 04:01 AM

Seamanship Question #25
 
If you have lost your rudder, what can you
use to steer the vessel besides it's sails.

Say for example you have a tack you have to
make, or risk running aground. What can
you do to positively insure you get the bow
through the eye of the wind?



[email protected] January 13th 06 04:13 AM

Seamanship Question #25
 
"Club Haul" her. I've read enough novels of sailing ships. Drop your
anchor while underway on the side you want to turn towrds


Capt. JG January 13th 06 04:55 AM

Seamanship Question #25
 
I'm assuming that you don't have time to deploy an emergency rudder... in
that case, you would have to create drag on one side of the boat... perhaps
anchor or short-line drogue off the bow?

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"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ...
If you have lost your rudder, what can you
use to steer the vessel besides it's sails.

Say for example you have a tack you have to
make, or risk running aground. What can
you do to positively insure you get the bow
through the eye of the wind?




Capt. JG January 13th 06 04:56 AM

Seamanship Question #25
 
Yeah... that would do it.

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www.sailnow.com

wrote in message
oups.com...
"Club Haul" her. I've read enough novels of sailing ships. Drop your
anchor while underway on the side you want to turn towrds




DSK January 13th 06 12:23 PM

Seamanship Question #25
 
Bart Senior wrote:
If you have lost your rudder, what can you
use to steer the vessel besides it's sails.


One of Boobsie's Ebay paddles?


Say for example you have a tack you have to
make, or risk running aground. What can
you do to positively insure you get the bow
through the eye of the wind?


You could aim the speakers of your entertainment center to
the fore leeward quarter, and play Megadeath Live at full
volume. The sound would bounce off the approaching shore and
push the head of the vessel around.

DSK


katy January 13th 06 02:27 PM

Seamanship Question #25
 
Bart Senior wrote:
If you have lost your rudder, what can you
use to steer the vessel besides it's sails.

Say for example you have a tack you have to
make, or risk running aground. What can
you do to positively insure you get the bow
through the eye of the wind?


Use your galley table as a rudder, but you'd better hold on tight

katy January 13th 06 02:28 PM

Seamanship Question #25
 
Bart Senior wrote:
If you have lost your rudder, what can you
use to steer the vessel besides it's sails.

Say for example you have a tack you have to
make, or risk running aground. What can
you do to positively insure you get the bow
through the eye of the wind?


throw an old sail off the lee side of the bow?

Scotty January 13th 06 03:52 PM

Seamanship Question #25
 

"katy" wrote in message
...
Bart Senior wrote:
If you have lost your rudder, what can you
use to steer the vessel besides it's sails.

Say for example you have a tack you have to
make, or risk running aground. What can
you do to positively insure you get the bow
through the eye of the wind?


throw an old sail off the lee side of the bow?


wouldn't that gybe?




Scotty January 13th 06 03:53 PM

Seamanship Question #25
 
How long before you must tack?

1. Anchor and fix the rudder.

2. Throw dinghy anchor over the windward side.

3. Throw Lisa overboard and have her push the bow over.

Scotty





"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message
...
If you have lost your rudder, what can you
use to steer the vessel besides it's sails.

Say for example you have a tack you have to
make, or risk running aground. What can
you do to positively insure you get the bow
through the eye of the wind?





Joe January 13th 06 04:42 PM

Seamanship Question #25
 
Thats Commode Rob aka Bobspirt. He sells bad trow away boat crap on
e-bay. He has several - feedbacks for selling crap that don't work.
Buyers beware!

He's a thief and a liar and goes by bobspirt, Rusty, BB, and Commode
Joe RedCloud that he stole the name from me. That the only way he has
the balls to post, beside when he sucking on someones balls, then he's
to busy to post.


Joe


Capt. Rob January 13th 06 05:40 PM

Seamanship Question #25
 
Good Question Bart,

The helm jammed on my gut once and was usless.

It was that time I left the dock.
So I hit a rock. That stopped me fast, even spilled my breast milk. But
I felt it was a safe slam since the hull of Ghost was mushy and soft.

Capt Rob
35s5 Fastest boat on the planet
NY


Bart Senior January 13th 06 07:12 PM

Seamanship Question #25
 
Point to you. Good answer.

wrote
"Club Haul" her. I've read enough novels of sailing ships. Drop your
anchor while underway on the side you want to turn towrds




Bart Senior January 13th 06 07:16 PM

Seamanship Question #25
 
Point to you Jon.

If you have a tow behind you, you can use a tow line
lead to the bow on the leeward side, releasing it from
the stern.

What got me thinking about this question was a
Patrick O'Brien story that started out with Luck
Jack towing a dismasted prize into a harbor.
Even with a rudder, it might be hard to tack. He
solved that probelm by rigging a bridle to the bow
and used the tow for the manuever.

"Capt. JG" wrote
I'm assuming that you don't have time to deploy an emergency rudder... in
that case, you would have to create drag on one side of the boat...
perhaps anchor or short-line drogue off the bow?




Capt. JG January 13th 06 08:01 PM

Seamanship Question #25
 
Actually, I was thinking that if you're towing using a bridal, you could
shorten one side of it, assuming the point of the triangle of what was being
towed was fixed. That might be enough to help you through a tack. Of course,
then you'd have to reset it.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ...
Point to you Jon.

If you have a tow behind you, you can use a tow line
lead to the bow on the leeward side, releasing it from
the stern.

What got me thinking about this question was a
Patrick O'Brien story that started out with Luck
Jack towing a dismasted prize into a harbor.
Even with a rudder, it might be hard to tack. He
solved that probelm by rigging a bridle to the bow
and used the tow for the manuever.

"Capt. JG" wrote
I'm assuming that you don't have time to deploy an emergency rudder... in
that case, you would have to create drag on one side of the boat...
perhaps anchor or short-line drogue off the bow?






katy January 14th 06 01:26 AM

Seamanship Question #25
 
Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

Bart Senior wrote:

If you have lost your rudder, what can you
use to steer the vessel besides it's sails.

Say for example you have a tack you have to
make, or risk running aground. What can
you do to positively insure you get the bow
through the eye of the wind?



throw an old sail off the lee side of the bow?



wouldn't that gybe?



No...you're into the wind, not downwind, so throwing the weight over
the bow on the lee side would shove the bow across the wind and
force a rack...I think....


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