Sailboat do-over!
 

Imagine if you could go back in time and undo one or more of your
sailboat purchases. What would you change. Although I got a lot out of
my low cost Catalina 27, I'd buy another sailboat if I had to do it
over again. Obviously the "time" is a factor in our boats and the
Catalina was right for me as a first boat in many ways. Still, if I
could change things...

So what changes would you make? What purchases were less than ideal?
Did you fall for the wrong boat in your younger years?



RB
35s5...The RIGHT boat
NY

Sailboat do-over!
 

Unlike you..... I have never regretted the purchase of any boat. I would not
change my mind on any of them....from my first inflatable canoe I bought
with my paper delivery money at 9 years of age, the many boats since
including my commercial fishing boats I owned to my current sailboat.

The Catalina 27 is a POS... I tried to tell you back then but you wouldn't
listen to reason. Then you slammed the Benneteaus and as fate would have it
.... ended up buying one.

You don't know what you want because you have no experience outside of
daysails on the LIS and thus purchase based on other's opinions and how good
it will look at the dock.

Until you understand that a sailboat purchase is made from the heart... your
losing streak on stepping stones will continue like a repetitive nightmare.

CM



"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...

Imagine if you could go back in time and undo one or more of your
sailboat purchases. What would you change. Although I got a lot out of
my low cost Catalina 27, I'd buy another sailboat if I had to do it
over again. Obviously the "time" is a factor in our boats and the
Catalina was right for me as a first boat in many ways. Still, if I
could change things...

So what changes would you make? What purchases were less than ideal?
Did you fall for the wrong boat in your younger years?



RB
35s5...The RIGHT boat
NY

Sailboat do-over!
 

I wouldn't change a thing.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_

--
"Swab Rob" wrote
Imagine if you could go back in time and undo one or more of
your
sailboat purchases. What would you change. Although I got a lot
out of
my low cost Catalina 27, I'd buy another sailboat if I had to
do it
over again. Obviously the "time" is a factor in our boats and
the
Catalina was right for me as a first boat in many ways. Still,
if I
could change things...

So what changes would you make? What purchases were less than
ideal?
Did you fall for the wrong boat in your younger years?



RB
35s5...The RIGHT boat
NY

Sailboat do-over!
 

The Catalina 27 is a POS... I tried to tell you back then but you
wouldn't
listen to reason.


Back when??? I never spoke to you before or soon after buying the 27.
That said she was a lot of fun and cost nearly zero to own. A tall rig
version might be a better pic. She was bullet proof, but undercanvased
for the LIS. On the other hand, she made sense in that regard for the
first two seasons. I think it's fare to say that I've enjoyed each of
my boats more and more as performance has increased. The 35s5 is
probably the logical end to my boat buying until I crave something for
a much different type of sailing...long distance cruising, day-sailing
only or liveaboard...the latter appears to be our plan.
Meanwhile, my 1973 Catalina 27 cost 5K and was better built than your
Nordica with NO doubt. Even sadder...she was nearly as fast as the
Nordica. Then again, in all fairness to the Nordica, the Catalina 30
costs more.

RB
35s5
NY

Sailboat do-over!
 

I've never regretted the purchase of any of the boats I've owned. I have
regretted selling them. The biggest regret was selling my Windrider, because
it would be fun to sail on the lake where I teach. However, it looks like
I'll be getting a Hobie soon, so that'll make up for it I guess.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...

Imagine if you could go back in time and undo one or more of your
sailboat purchases. What would you change. Although I got a lot out of
my low cost Catalina 27, I'd buy another sailboat if I had to do it
over again. Obviously the "time" is a factor in our boats and the
Catalina was right for me as a first boat in many ways. Still, if I
could change things...

So what changes would you make? What purchases were less than ideal?
Did you fall for the wrong boat in your younger years?



RB
35s5...The RIGHT boat
NY

Sailboat do-over!
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
Meanwhile, my 1973 Catalina 27 cost 5K and was better built than your
Nordica with NO doubt. Even sadder...she was nearly as fast as the
Nordica. Then again, in all fairness to the Nordica, the Catalina 30
costs more.

Oh Pulheeeeze... try a reality check would ya. Your cabin needed to be
reinforced due to massive flexing. It had a max of 1/4" of glass on the
hull. You had a foul A4..Click Click.W-h-i-i-r-r-r-r-r-r...BOOM! The deck
space was non existent. The boat sailed like seagull on Quaaludes. When you
stepped aboard it heeled enough to dip a rail. You could barely squeeze into
the entryway.... and you had to walk thru the head for the privilege of
sleeping on a 5' bunk that sweats worse than you after a three mile waddle
to the fridge. It's was a piece of junk like all your vessels including your
latest purchase of a styless, look-alike margarine container with fake teak
veneer you tried to convince us was wood until we set you straight...dock
condo. You'll never have a live aboard.... and you'll never live aboard.
You'll never leave the LIS and despite your claims to greater goals... will
sail on a sewage lagoon for the rest of your life.

My fine vessel on the other hand has sailed further than you've dreamed of
travelling. I have actually lived aboard my vessel comfortably for nine
years. The reality is that since I've owned my vessel for so long, I have
not only had the time to review it's faults in a variety of conditions...
but the ability to effect change, removal, renovation and repair.

While I know in great detail how my vessel will behave in a wide variety of
sea states and wind conditions.... you have no clue about the abilities or
limitations of any of your pitiful stepping stones since you have never left
the harbour.

This alone makes my boat stand head & shoulders above whatever boat you
might own.

CM

Sailboat do-over!
 

Mooron - 85
Booby - 02



"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:aLSwf.74621$AP5.7943@edtnps84...

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
Meanwhile, my 1973 Catalina 27 cost 5K and was better built
than your
Nordica with NO doubt. Even sadder...she was nearly as fast
as the
Nordica. Then again, in all fairness to the Nordica, the
Catalina 30
costs more.

Oh Pulheeeeze... try a reality check would ya. Your cabin
needed to be
reinforced due to massive flexing. It had a max of 1/4" of
glass on the
hull. You had a foul A4..Click
Click.W-h-i-i-r-r-r-r-r-r...BOOM! The deck
space was non existent. The boat sailed like seagull on
Quaaludes. When you
stepped aboard it heeled enough to dip a rail. You could barely
squeeze into
the entryway.... and you had to walk thru the head for the
privilege of
sleeping on a 5' bunk that sweats worse than you after a three
mile waddle
to the fridge. It's was a piece of junk like all your vessels
including your
latest purchase of a styless, look-alike margarine container
with fake teak
veneer you tried to convince us was wood until we set you
straight...dock
condo. You'll never have a live aboard.... and you'll never
live aboard.
You'll never leave the LIS and despite your claims to greater
goals... will
sail on a sewage lagoon for the rest of your life.

My fine vessel on the other hand has sailed further than you've
dreamed of
travelling. I have actually lived aboard my vessel comfortably
for nine
years. The reality is that since I've owned my vessel for so
long, I have
not only had the time to review it's faults in a variety of
conditions...
but the ability to effect change, removal, renovation and
repair.

While I know in great detail how my vessel will behave in a
wide variety of
sea states and wind conditions.... you have no clue about the
abilities or
limitations of any of your pitiful stepping stones since you
have never left
the harbour.

This alone makes my boat stand head & shoulders above whatever
boat you
might own.

CM

Sailboat do-over!
 

Your such an asshole.
"Commodore Joe Redcloud©" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 09:51:41 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

I've never regretted the purchase of any of the boats I've owned. I have
regretted selling them. The biggest regret was selling my Windrider,
because
it would be fun to sail on the lake where I teach. However, it looks like
I'll be getting a Homo soon, so that'll make up for it I guess.

TMI!


Commodore Joe Redcloud©

Sailboat do-over!
 

Stalking me again?

--
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www.sailnow.com

"Commodore Joe Redcloud©" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 09:51:41 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

I've never regretted the purchase of any of the boats I've owned. I have
regretted selling them. The biggest regret was selling my Windrider,
because
it would be fun to sail on the lake where I teach. However, it looks like
I'll be getting a Homo soon, so that'll make up for it I guess.

TMI!


Commodore Joe Redcloud©

Sailboat do-over!
 

While I know in great detail how my vessel will behave in a wide
variety of
sea states and wind conditions....

I can sum up for you...

Nordica 30 in light air.....Slow!
Nordica 30 in moderate air.....Slow!
Nordica 30 in heavy air.....Slow!

RB
35s5
NY

Sailboat do-over!
 

You're stalking me and couple of other people. What is your problem? I think
you need help, but in any case, leave me out of your delusions.

--
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www.sailnow.com

"Commodore Joe Redcloud" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 12:14:11 -0800, "Capt. JG" wrote:

Stalking me again?

I would first have to stalk you, before I could stalk you again,
queerbait.


Commodore Joe Redcloud

Sailboat do-over!
 

I have a pristine 1973 Fiberform 26 fly bridge sitting in my yard that I
paid 15,00.00 for years ago that has become an albatross for me. Hey
Mooron you remember the Drycleaner in Mahone Bay? $5,000.00 and it's
yours.

"Commodore Joe Redcloud©" wrote:

On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:38:45 -0500, "Scotty"
wrote:

Got any spare change?


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_

Commodore Joe Redcloud©

Sailboat do-over!
 

Sheeeeeeeeet Mooron you tha MAN.

Scotty wrote:

Mooron - 85
Booby - 02

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:aLSwf.74621$AP5.7943@edtnps84...

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
Meanwhile, my 1973 Catalina 27 cost 5K and was better built
than your
Nordica with NO doubt. Even sadder...she was nearly as fast
as the
Nordica. Then again, in all fairness to the Nordica, the
Catalina 30
costs more.

Oh Pulheeeeze... try a reality check would ya. Your cabin
needed to be
reinforced due to massive flexing. It had a max of 1/4" of
glass on the
hull. You had a foul A4..Click
Click.W-h-i-i-r-r-r-r-r-r...BOOM! The deck
space was non existent. The boat sailed like seagull on
Quaaludes. When you
stepped aboard it heeled enough to dip a rail. You could barely
squeeze into
the entryway.... and you had to walk thru the head for the
privilege of
sleeping on a 5' bunk that sweats worse than you after a three
mile waddle
to the fridge. It's was a piece of junk like all your vessels
including your
latest purchase of a styless, look-alike margarine container
with fake teak
veneer you tried to convince us was wood until we set you
straight...dock
condo. You'll never have a live aboard.... and you'll never
live aboard.
You'll never leave the LIS and despite your claims to greater
goals... will
sail on a sewage lagoon for the rest of your life.

My fine vessel on the other hand has sailed further than you've
dreamed of
travelling. I have actually lived aboard my vessel comfortably
for nine
years. The reality is that since I've owned my vessel for so
long, I have
not only had the time to review it's faults in a variety of
conditions...
but the ability to effect change, removal, renovation and
repair.

While I know in great detail how my vessel will behave in a
wide variety of
sea states and wind conditions.... you have no clue about the
abilities or
limitations of any of your pitiful stepping stones since you
have never left
the harbour.

This alone makes my boat stand head & shoulders above whatever
boat you
might own.

CM

Sailboat do-over!
 

How do you figure Swabbie got two? It was a shutout
for CM. He beat him up like the Panther's beat the
Giants last week.

"Scotty" wrote

Mooron - 85
Booby - 02

Sailboat do-over!
 

The correct reply when you get spanked like that is ...

"Thank You Sir, May I have Another?"

.....and the answer is No!! Now off with you... run along!

CM


"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
While I know in great detail how my vessel will behave in a wide
variety of
sea states and wind conditions....

I can sum up for you...

Nordica 30 in light air.....Slow!
Nordica 30 in moderate air.....Slow!
Nordica 30 in heavy air.....Slow!

RB
35s5
NY

Sailboat do-over!
 

He made two foul shots after Mooron bitch slapped him and got
called for a 'T'.

Scotty


"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message
...
How do you figure Swabbie got two? It was a shutout
for CM. He beat him up like the Panther's beat the
Giants last week.

"Scotty" wrote

Mooron - 85
Booby - 02

Sailboat do-over!
 

"Swab Rob" wrote


I can sum up for you...

Bob's boat in light air.....Sitting at the dock!
Bob's boat in moderate air.....Sitting at the dock!
Bob's boat in heavy air.....Rocking at the dock!

RB
35s5 the limo version of the Mac26X
NY

Sailboat do-over!
 

That is worth about $100 if it will take an outboard,
and you can cut the top off.

"Dry" wrote
I have a pristine 1973 Fiberform 26 fly bridge sitting in my yard that I
paid 15,00.00 for years ago that has become an albatross for me. Hey
Mooron you remember the Drycleaner in Mahone Bay? $5,000.00 and it's
yours.

Sailboat do-over!
 

I've always been quite happy with my boats too. I owned a Sunfish for
a number of years. I owned the Merit for 9 years and the Express will
be 9 years this season. Never had twofootitis.

Sailboat do-over!
 

and the Express will
be 9 years this season.



Hitler and Braun, Sloco and Depress 30!!!


RB
35s5
NY

Sailboat do-over!
 

Some of my fondest memories are from sailing my little 16'
daysailer.
I never considered it a stepping stone.

Scotty

"rgnmstr" wrote in message
oups.com...
I've always been quite happy with my boats too. I owned a
Sunfish for
a number of years. I owned the Merit for 9 years and the
Express will
be 9 years this season. Never had twofootitis.

Sailboat do-over!
 

On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 09:57:11 -0500, "Scotty"
wrote:

Some of my fondest memories are from sailing my little 16'
daysailer.
I never considered it a stepping stone.

Scotty

"rgnmstr" wrote in message
roups.com...
I've always been quite happy with my boats too. I owned a
Sunfish for
a number of years. I owned the Merit for 9 years and the
Express will
be 9 years this season. Never had twofootitis.




That's what it's about. What I remember about the boats I've owned is
the good times I've had aboard. No boat I've owned was perfect and I
would change things about each of them, however, at the time, they
were the best choices. The quest for the perfect boat is a fools
quest unless funds are completely unlimited and maybe even then.

Sailboat do-over!
 

The first boat I owned (half owned) was a Sunfish. We used to sail it off
the coast of north county San Diego. We started in Del Mar (and a couple of
times from Encinitas) and took it to La Jolla, where we beached it, had
lunch at an all-you-can-eat Chinese place, then hitchhiked back up the coast
with the Sunfish. It was a great diversion from school.

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www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
Some of my fondest memories are from sailing my little 16'
daysailer.
I never considered it a stepping stone.

Scotty

"rgnmstr" wrote in message
oups.com...
I've always been quite happy with my boats too. I owned a
Sunfish for
a number of years. I owned the Merit for 9 years and the
Express will
be 9 years this season. Never had twofootitis.

Sailboat do-over!
 

You hitchhiked with a Sunfish?

SV

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
The first boat I owned (half owned) was a Sunfish. We used to
sail it off
the coast of north county San Diego. We started in Del Mar (and
a couple of
times from Encinitas) and took it to La Jolla, where we beached
it, had
lunch at an all-you-can-eat Chinese place, then hitchhiked back
up the coast
with the Sunfish. It was a great diversion from school.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
Some of my fondest memories are from sailing my little 16'
daysailer.
I never considered it a stepping stone.

Scotty

"rgnmstr" wrote in message
oups.com...
I've always been quite happy with my boats too. I owned a
Sunfish for
a number of years. I owned the Merit for 9 years and the
Express will
be 9 years this season. Never had twofootitis.

Sailboat do-over!
 

Yeah, it was pretty amusing. Of course, the only people who would stop were
those with vans or pickups. Sometimes we'd have a wait an hour or so. Of
course, this was the early 70s, when something like this would have been
possible. We did get a lot of strange looks, and a cop stopped once, but he
couldn't find anything illegal and finally left us alone. (SD cops had a rep
for being quite aggressive those days.)

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www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
You hitchhiked with a Sunfish?

SV

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
The first boat I owned (half owned) was a Sunfish. We used to
sail it off
the coast of north county San Diego. We started in Del Mar (and
a couple of
times from Encinitas) and took it to La Jolla, where we beached
it, had
lunch at an all-you-can-eat Chinese place, then hitchhiked back
up the coast
with the Sunfish. It was a great diversion from school.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
Some of my fondest memories are from sailing my little 16'
daysailer.
I never considered it a stepping stone.

Scotty

"rgnmstr" wrote in message
oups.com...
I've always been quite happy with my boats too. I owned a
Sunfish for
a number of years. I owned the Merit for 9 years and the
Express will
be 9 years this season. Never had twofootitis.