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Joe January 2nd 06 11:29 PM

Is a FMJ
 
Best for punching holes in pirate boats?

Whats the best boat rifle?

Joe


Maynard G. Krebbs January 3rd 06 01:02 AM

Is a FMJ
 
On 2 Jan 2006 15:29:36 -0800, "Joe" wrote:

Best for punching holes in pirate boats?

Whats the best boat rifle?

Joe


Get some of the Lock-Buster 12-guage slugs the DEA uses. 12-guage
with a shaped-charge explosive slug. They use them for blowing the
locks out of steel drughouse doors.
Mark E. Williams

PS...If you do get some be sure to hide them as they are illegal.

Joe January 3rd 06 01:42 AM

Is a FMJ
 
lllegal? If the DEA can buy them.... then law abiding US citizens
should be able to buy them. I like the shape charge explosive...Sounds
cool and effective.

Whats the range?

Joe


Bob Crantz January 3rd 06 01:44 AM

Is a FMJ
 

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Best for punching holes in pirate boats?

Whats the best boat rifle?

Joe

FMJ = full metal jacket, which is usually copper. It's useless for anything
except paper target shooting. For fleshy targets use an expansive type round
such as hollow points, Nosler Partitions, Grand Slams, etc.

For punching through steel use AP rounds (armour piercing):

http://patsreloading.com/patsrel/whatsnew.htm



What are the pirate boats made of?

I thought you were a gunners mate?

Amen!



John Cairns January 3rd 06 02:01 AM

Is a FMJ
 

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Best for punching holes in pirate boats?

Whats the best boat rifle?

Joe


I recently read the account of a pirate attack in the Red Sea, IIRC. The
skipper had success with a shotgun, the attackers were probably using AK's.
Pretty heavy and can't be broken down, but you could go with a Barrett, keep
them at bay from a distance, fer sure, shotgun for close in work.

John Cairns



Bob Crantz January 3rd 06 02:22 AM

Is a FMJ
 
try this:


http://www.olive-drab.com/od_infweapons_flame.php


"John Cairns" wrote in message
. net...

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Best for punching holes in pirate boats?

Whats the best boat rifle?

Joe


I recently read the account of a pirate attack in the Red Sea, IIRC. The
skipper had success with a shotgun, the attackers were probably using
AK's. Pretty heavy and can't be broken down, but you could go with a
Barrett, keep them at bay from a distance, fer sure, shotgun for close in
work.

John Cairns




Joe January 3rd 06 02:22 AM

Is a FMJ
 
Gunny.........I dont think so. Bos'n mate 2nd class.

Most pirate boats are e made of fiberglass over plywood right? That and
steel.


I will check out the AP rounds, have a bunch of FMJ's will use them at
the range plinking.

What about rifle type?

Needs to get around corners fast, NATO rounds, light, knockdown power,
good in a salty soup, can reach out and touch someone, what do you
think should be aboard?

Joe


Capt. JG January 3rd 06 03:05 AM

Is a FMJ
 
I need to get one of these....

http://www.eatmyflames.com/

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"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
ink.net...
try this:


http://www.olive-drab.com/od_infweapons_flame.php


"John Cairns" wrote in message
. net...

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Best for punching holes in pirate boats?

Whats the best boat rifle?

Joe


I recently read the account of a pirate attack in the Red Sea, IIRC. The
skipper had success with a shotgun, the attackers were probably using
AK's. Pretty heavy and can't be broken down, but you could go with a
Barrett, keep them at bay from a distance, fer sure, shotgun for close in
work.

John Cairns






Bob Crantz January 3rd 06 03:59 AM

Is a FMJ
 
I can do that naturally.

Amen!

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
I need to get one of these....

http://www.eatmyflames.com/

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
ink.net...
try this:


http://www.olive-drab.com/od_infweapons_flame.php


"John Cairns" wrote in message
. net...

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Best for punching holes in pirate boats?

Whats the best boat rifle?

Joe


I recently read the account of a pirate attack in the Red Sea, IIRC. The
skipper had success with a shotgun, the attackers were probably using
AK's. Pretty heavy and can't be broken down, but you could go with a
Barrett, keep them at bay from a distance, fer sure, shotgun for close
in work.

John Cairns








Bob Crantz January 3rd 06 04:10 AM

Is a FMJ
 
For you:

Get a Ruger Mini 14 or Mini 30 in stainless steel.

http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firear...ifle&special=N

Buy two if you can. Ms. Terry can handle one.

Get a lot of large capacity magazines.

Buy the Russian ammo by Wolf. Varnished steel cases, good but inexpensive.

Don't get the gay folding stocks. Use a real stock and aim at what you
intend to hit. Use real marksmanship and practice.

You might want to look at shotguns too. Also a compound bow for silent work,
but you have to learn to shoot a bow and practice regularly.

For real firepower get an HK 91. They are expensive.

http://www.hkpro.com/hk91.htm

Amen!



"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Gunny.........I dont think so. Bos'n mate 2nd class.

Most pirate boats are e made of fiberglass over plywood right? That and
steel.


I will check out the AP rounds, have a bunch of FMJ's will use them at
the range plinking.

What about rifle type?

Needs to get around corners fast, NATO rounds, light, knockdown power,
good in a salty soup, can reach out and touch someone, what do you
think should be aboard?

Joe




Capt. JG January 3rd 06 04:58 AM

Is a FMJ
 
TMI man, TMI...

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
ink.net...
I can do that naturally.

Amen!

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
I need to get one of these....

http://www.eatmyflames.com/

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
ink.net...
try this:


http://www.olive-drab.com/od_infweapons_flame.php


"John Cairns" wrote in message
. net...

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Best for punching holes in pirate boats?

Whats the best boat rifle?

Joe


I recently read the account of a pirate attack in the Red Sea, IIRC.
The skipper had success with a shotgun, the attackers were probably
using AK's. Pretty heavy and can't be broken down, but you could go
with a Barrett, keep them at bay from a distance, fer sure, shotgun for
close in work.

John Cairns










d parker January 3rd 06 02:15 PM

Is a FMJ
 

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
lllegal? If the DEA can buy them.... then law abiding US citizens
should be able to buy them. I like the shape charge explosive...Sounds
cool and effective.


What? Like a Thermo Nuke?

DP



Joe January 3rd 06 02:55 PM

Is a FMJ
 
No......More like a sabo round.

Joe


Joe January 3rd 06 03:00 PM

Is a FMJ
 
Dont care for russian varnished steel. The powder is to corrosive, even
with my chrome lining... and the varnish can cause jamming in a very
hot barrell. Still have a 1000 rd tin I picked up at a gun show. When
you open them it's best to use them up fast.

I like most H&K rifles and the Ruger carbines good choices.

Joe


Bob Crantz January 3rd 06 03:10 PM

Is a FMJ
 
What gun are you using the Russian ammo in?


"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
Dont care for russian varnished steel. The powder is to corrosive, even
with my chrome lining... and the varnish can cause jamming in a very
hot barrell. Still have a 1000 rd tin I picked up at a gun show. When
you open them it's best to use them up fast.

I like most H&K rifles and the Ruger carbines good choices.

Joe




Joe January 3rd 06 03:19 PM

Is a FMJ
 
Bushmaster AR-15 shorty carbine.

Joe


Capt.Mooron January 3rd 06 06:33 PM

Is a FMJ
 
Nah Bob... you're going about this all wrong...... naked girls on deck
feigning distress and water balloons filled with gasoline..... fire gas
balloons then ignite with a flare gun.

CM

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Best for punching holes in pirate boats?

Whats the best boat rifle?

Joe

FMJ = full metal jacket, which is usually copper. It's useless for
anything except paper target shooting. For fleshy targets use an expansive
type round such as hollow points, Nosler Partitions, Grand Slams, etc.

For punching through steel use AP rounds (armour piercing):

http://patsreloading.com/patsrel/whatsnew.htm



What are the pirate boats made of?

I thought you were a gunners mate?

Amen!




Capt.Mooron January 3rd 06 06:35 PM

Is a FMJ
 
I don't care if you're hull is Titanium Joe..... a gasoline filled water
balloon lit up by a flare will keep everyone on the target boat too busy to
bother with you.

CM

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Gunny.........I dont think so. Bos'n mate 2nd class.

Most pirate boats are e made of fiberglass over plywood right? That and
steel.


I will check out the AP rounds, have a bunch of FMJ's will use them at
the range plinking.

What about rifle type?

Needs to get around corners fast, NATO rounds, light, knockdown power,
good in a salty soup, can reach out and touch someone, what do you
think should be aboard?

Joe




Capt.Mooron January 3rd 06 06:36 PM

Is a FMJ
 
..223 rounds only have one purpose.

Barnet .50 Cal. ....Long Distance Calling!

Reach Out and Touch Somebody!

CM

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
ink.net...
For you:

Get a Ruger Mini 14 or Mini 30 in stainless steel.

http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firear...ifle&special=N

Buy two if you can. Ms. Terry can handle one.

Get a lot of large capacity magazines.

Buy the Russian ammo by Wolf. Varnished steel cases, good but inexpensive.

Don't get the gay folding stocks. Use a real stock and aim at what you
intend to hit. Use real marksmanship and practice.

You might want to look at shotguns too. Also a compound bow for silent
work, but you have to learn to shoot a bow and practice regularly.

For real firepower get an HK 91. They are expensive.

http://www.hkpro.com/hk91.htm

Amen!



"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Gunny.........I dont think so. Bos'n mate 2nd class.

Most pirate boats are e made of fiberglass over plywood right? That and
steel.


I will check out the AP rounds, have a bunch of FMJ's will use them at
the range plinking.

What about rifle type?

Needs to get around corners fast, NATO rounds, light, knockdown power,
good in a salty soup, can reach out and touch someone, what do you
think should be aboard?

Joe






Maynard G. Krebbs January 4th 06 01:37 AM

Is a FMJ
 
On 2 Jan 2006 17:42:46 -0800, "Joe" wrote:

lllegal? If the DEA can buy them.... then law abiding US citizens
should be able to buy them. I like the shape charge explosive...Sounds
cool and effective.

Whats the range?

Joe


I'm not sure of the range because the DEA always use then from about 3
feet. LOL
Mark E. Williams

Vito January 4th 06 01:17 PM

Is a FMJ
 
"Capt.Mooron" wrote
.... and water balloons filled with gasoline.....


Do NOT try this!

When in H.S. we found it great sport to pour a few spoonfull of gasoline down
some victim's crack then flick your Bic -- very entertaining in a crowded
hallway. Carried the gas in small bottles. One fool tried a balloon. Gas ate
the rubber and balloon broke saturating his pocket. Then .....



Vito January 4th 06 01:23 PM

Is a FMJ
 
"Maynard G. Krebbs" wrote
I'm not sure of the range because the DEA always use then from about 3
feet. LOL


The 'lock busters' I've seen are simply bags of powdered lead ahead of a stout
charge. Very effective yrt safe at 3' and under ... which is about as far back
as a DEA agent can get and still hit a door. No shape charge needed.



Maynard G. Krebbs January 5th 06 02:11 AM

Is a FMJ
 
On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 08:23:26 -0500, "Vito" wrote:

"Maynard G. Krebbs" wrote
I'm not sure of the range because the DEA always use then from about 3
feet. LOL


The 'lock busters' I've seen are simply bags of powdered lead ahead of a stout
charge. Very effective yrt safe at 3' and under ... which is about as far back
as a DEA agent can get and still hit a door. No shape charge needed.


Bummer! I've always wanted some shaped-charge AP slugs. LOL
Mark E. Williams


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