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OPEN WATER -- the movie.

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Bart Senior wrote:
OPEN WATER -- the movie.

http://www.cdnn.info/industry/i040523/i040523.html

http://outside.away.com/outside/feat...steries_2.html


There was a similar incident... dive tour boat leaving a
diver behind... in the Florida Keys. This guy was found by
another boat some hours later. That would be very scary.

One reason to make sure you get acquainted with your
companions on any such trip... that way the odds are higher
they'd realize you were missing.

DSK

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"DSK" wrote in message
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Bart Senior wrote:
OPEN WATER -- the movie.

http://www.cdnn.info/industry/i040523/i040523.html


http://outside.away.com/outside/feat...310_mysteries_
2.html


There was a similar incident... dive tour boat leaving a
diver behind... in the Florida Keys. This guy was found by
another boat some hours later. That would be very scary.

One reason to make sure you get acquainted with your
companions on any such trip... that way the odds are higher
they'd realize you were missing.

I heard on the radio yesterday that they were going to 'look
into' cruise ship disappearances. Apparently, at least 12 times
last year a cruise ship returned home with one less passenger
than it left with.

Scotty

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Scotty wrote:
I heard on the radio yesterday that they were going to 'look
into' cruise ship disappearances. Apparently, at least 12 times
last year a cruise ship returned home with one less passenger
than it left with.


I believe it. Those cruise ships are floating zoos, and the
engineering plant is even scarier to me.

Read 'Darker Than Amber' by John D. MacDonald... one of the
Travis McGee series which is well worth while for anybody
who likes boats... very plausible novel about a very
profitable murder scheme, disposing of people by dropping
them off cruise ships.

DSK

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I thought I read about some drunk who tried to pee off the side, then fell
in. No one noticed and he ended up swimming. Didn't die though. Maybe it was
an urban myth.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Scotty wrote:
I heard on the radio yesterday that they were going to 'look
into' cruise ship disappearances. Apparently, at least 12 times
last year a cruise ship returned home with one less passenger
than it left with.


I believe it. Those cruise ships are floating zoos, and the engineering
plant is even scarier to me.

Read 'Darker Than Amber' by John D. MacDonald... one of the Travis McGee
series which is well worth while for anybody who likes boats... very
plausible novel about a very profitable murder scheme, disposing of people
by dropping them off cruise ships.

DSK

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They spread that rumor around so passengers don't pee off the
sides (especially from the upper decks).


SV


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
I thought I read about some drunk who tried to pee off the
side, then fell
in. No one noticed and he ended up swimming. Didn't die though.
Maybe it was
an urban myth.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Scotty wrote:
I heard on the radio yesterday that they were going to 'look
into' cruise ship disappearances. Apparently, at least 12
times
last year a cruise ship returned home with one less
passenger
than it left with.


I believe it. Those cruise ships are floating zoos, and the
engineering
plant is even scarier to me.

Read 'Darker Than Amber' by John D. MacDonald... one of the
Travis McGee
series which is well worth while for anybody who likes
boats... very
plausible novel about a very profitable murder scheme,
disposing of people
by dropping them off cruise ships.

DSK

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Probably... when's your trip start?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
They spread that rumor around so passengers don't pee off the
sides (especially from the upper decks).


SV


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
I thought I read about some drunk who tried to pee off the
side, then fell
in. No one noticed and he ended up swimming. Didn't die though.
Maybe it was
an urban myth.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Scotty wrote:
I heard on the radio yesterday that they were going to 'look
into' cruise ship disappearances. Apparently, at least 12
times
last year a cruise ship returned home with one less
passenger
than it left with.


I believe it. Those cruise ships are floating zoos, and the
engineering
plant is even scarier to me.

Read 'Darker Than Amber' by John D. MacDonald... one of the
Travis McGee
series which is well worth while for anybody who likes
boats... very
plausible novel about a very profitable murder scheme,
disposing of people
by dropping them off cruise ships.

DSK

OPEN WATER
 

Read 'Darker Than Amber' by John D. MacDonald... one of the
Travis McGee series which is well worth while for anybody
who likes boats... very plausible novel about a very
profitable murder scheme, disposing of people by dropping
them off cruise ships.

I believe there are lots of similar schemes/places around. There's an
area in Colorado called the Uncompahgre National Forest where hunters
come from all over the country every year to hunt elk. Locals refer to
it as a place to take someone if you want to kill them and not get
caught. My brother married a women who took him hunting 90 days after
they were married and he wound up being murdered.

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June something.


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Probably... when's your trip start?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
They spread that rumor around so passengers don't pee off the
sides (especially from the upper decks).


SV


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
I thought I read about some drunk who tried to pee off the
side, then fell
in. No one noticed and he ended up swimming. Didn't die
though.
Maybe it was
an urban myth.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Scotty wrote:
I heard on the radio yesterday that they were going to
'look
into' cruise ship disappearances. Apparently, at least
12
times
last year a cruise ship returned home with one less
passenger
than it left with.


I believe it. Those cruise ships are floating zoos, and
the
engineering
plant is even scarier to me.

Read 'Darker Than Amber' by John D. MacDonald... one of
the
Travis McGee
series which is well worth while for anybody who likes
boats... very
plausible novel about a very profitable murder scheme,
disposing of people
by dropping them off cruise ships.

DSK

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"rgnmstr" wrote in

I believe there are lots of similar schemes/places around.
There's an
area in Colorado called the Uncompahgre National Forest where
hunters
come from all over the country every year to hunt elk. Locals
refer to
it as a place to take someone if you want to kill them and not
get
caught. My brother married a women who took him hunting 90
days after
they were married and he wound up being murdered.


Yikes!

I've always said that the middle of the ocean would be the best
place to dump a body.
Maybe that's why Lisa won't go sailing with me.

Scotty

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I've always said that the middle of the ocean would be the best
place to dump a body.
Maybe that's why Lisa won't go sailing with me.


That, plus the fact that you're ugly, smelly and dangerous at the helm
of a boat.

RB
35s5
NY

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Sorry, but that area is managed for trophy hunting only meaning very few
permits are given out each year. Ergo, few hunters compared to the rest of
Colorado.
Beautiful hunting country, btw.
We hunted it this fall and my nephew took a 30+ inch mule deer and I blew
two chances at very large bulls. Oh well, 8 years wait for another permit!
Gordon

"rgnmstr" wrote in message
oups.com...
Read 'Darker Than Amber' by John D. MacDonald... one of the
Travis McGee series which is well worth while for anybody
who likes boats... very plausible novel about a very
profitable murder scheme, disposing of people by dropping
them off cruise ships.

I believe there are lots of similar schemes/places around. There's an
area in Colorado called the Uncompahgre National Forest where hunters
come from all over the country every year to hunt elk. Locals refer to
it as a place to take someone if you want to kill them and not get
caught. My brother married a women who took him hunting 90 days after
they were married and he wound up being murdered.

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boat?



"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
I've always said that the middle of the ocean would be the best
place to dump a body.
Maybe that's why Lisa won't go sailing with me.


That, plus the fact that you're ugly, smelly and dangerous at
the helm
of a boat.

RB
35s5
NY

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Sorry, but that area is managed for trophy hunting only meaning very
few
permits are given out each year. Ergo, few hunters compared to the rest
of
Colorado.

Gordon, what exactly do you call "a very few" I was told by the
Colorado States Attorney that thousands of people fly in from all over
the US to hunt on the Uncompahgre Plateau every year. There are
capsites every few hundred yards and the place covers hundreds of
square miles.

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Why go to the Colorado States Attorney? What do they know?
Go to the Colorado fish and game and ask how many permits are given for
unit 61.
Unit 61 covers the whole western half of the plateau and when you apply
the number of permits to square miles, you'll see how few hunters their are
per square mile. As for campsites, any hunter may camp anywhere he can find
a place to mark off the road thats level. I know of only one official
campground near where we were.
On second thought maybe it would be a good spot to dump a body. No one to
find it!
Gordon


"rgnmstr" wrote in message
oups.com...
Sorry, but that area is managed for trophy hunting only meaning very
few
permits are given out each year. Ergo, few hunters compared to the rest
of
Colorado.

Gordon, what exactly do you call "a very few" I was told by the
Colorado States Attorney that thousands of people fly in from all over
the US to hunt on the Uncompahgre Plateau every year. There are
capsites every few hundred yards and the place covers hundreds of
square miles.

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Why go to the Colorado States Attorney? What do they know?

They only investage shootings and murders on the plateau. They only
have to prosecute murders and have to present facts to jurys that can't
be shot down by defense attornies. Plus I would assume they talk to
the fish and game people.

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And how many stiffs have they found in say the last 5 years on the
plateau?
After all you just talked to them and have that answer handy, do you not?
I do!
Gordon


"rgnmstr" wrote in message
oups.com...
Why go to the Colorado States Attorney? What do they know?

They only investage shootings and murders on the plateau. They only
have to prosecute murders and have to present facts to jurys that can't
be shot down by defense attornies. Plus I would assume they talk to
the fish and game people.

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And how many stiffs have they found in say the last 5 years on the
plateau? After all you just talked to them and have that answer handy,
do you not?
I do! Gordon

I really appreciate your calus terminology after I already mentioned
that my brother was murdered up there. Although I was only concerned
with one "stiff" my brother, I sat through his murderers 30 day trial
and listened to facts presented by a number of expert witnesses so I
think I know something about the area. I also know enough people have
been murdered up there over the years that the place does have a
reputation. You shoot somebody and it's damn near impossible to prove
that it was anything other than a hunting accident.