Bubbles, what's your take on the 38s5? Apparently one is going to be
joining us in our marina this coming summer. Is it just a larger version of
your boat? Faster? Slower?

Max

The 38s5 is larger and faster of course. It was designed due to the
success of the 35s5 which was selling very well in Europe. Jack Horner
warns that the shoal draft model has a keel that draws less than the
rudder. I haven't sailed the 38s5, but would expect it to be a lot like
our boat, fast and responsive. Horner also mentions the boat's numbers
adding up to an initially tender boat.
The interior is essentially identical to ours with a bit more floor
space. The charter version with double aft cabins has the head forward,
while the 35s5 charter version kept the head aft. Here's what Bob Perry
has to say about the Stark interior designs:

"The first Beneteau interiors that were designed by Starck were greeted
with comments about radically modern style. I find these interiors
novel and modern but strangely comfortable with their blend of aluminum
details and curved, dark mahogany panels. In some ways, these interiors
seem more traditional than do the "apple crate" all teak interiors that
bombarded us in the last decade. "

We preferred our odd ports to the mismatched ports of the 38s5 because
they let more light in. Other than that we agree with Perry's
assessment. These interiors are rather shocking when you first see
them, then end up feeling even more traditional and warm, especially
with the teak interior and dark fabrics. I guess that's partly why they
won design awards.
I think the 38s5 is a great boat...get aboard for a sail and let us
know what you think.

RB
35s5
NY

"Swab Rob" wrote ...
The 38s5 is larger

See, Loco, Swabby really knows about boats.

Scotty

The 38s5 is larger


See, Loco, Swabby really knows about boats.


Yup, and you can bet your bippy that Sloco's never been aboard a boat
as nice as a 38s5. He lives in a world of tired Express 30's, Oday's
28s and Tartan 30's with sad gelcoat. His world is all wax and 3M's
efforts to make old look passable.
It's nice to have left that all behind.

RB
35s5...a boat that shines!
NY

It was designed due to the success of the 35s5 which was selling
very well in Europe.

Like someone else mentioned it's a riot how you proclaim the 35s5 a big
success since Beneteau sold approx. 120 boats world wide and the
Express which sold almost 90 units in North America was a flop. I
guess you were just trolling.

Like someone else mentioned it's a riot how you proclaim the 35s5 a big

success since Beneteau sold approx. 120 boats world wide and the
Express which sold almost 90 units in North America was a flop.


Sloco loves to lie!!!
The 35s5 sold over 400 hulls worldwide. More boats than the Depress 30
and 35 COMBINED!


RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...
The 38s5 is larger and faster of course. It was designed due to the
success of the 35s5 which was selling very well in Europe. Jack Horner
warns that the shoal draft model has a keel that draws less than the
rudder. I haven't sailed the 38s5, but would expect it to be a lot like
our boat, fast and responsive. Horner also mentions the boat's numbers
adding up to an initially tender boat.
The interior is essentially identical to ours with a bit more floor
space. The charter version with double aft cabins has the head forward,
while the 35s5 charter version kept the head aft. Here's what Bob Perry
has to say about the Stark interior designs:

"The first Beneteau interiors that were designed by Starck were greeted
with comments about radically modern style. I find these interiors
novel and modern but strangely comfortable with their blend of aluminum
details and curved, dark mahogany panels. In some ways, these interiors
seem more traditional than do the "apple crate" all teak interiors that
bombarded us in the last decade. "

We preferred our odd ports to the mismatched ports of the 38s5 because
they let more light in. Other than that we agree with Perry's
assessment. These interiors are rather shocking when you first see
them, then end up feeling even more traditional and warm, especially
with the teak interior and dark fabrics. I guess that's partly why they
won design awards.
I think the 38s5 is a great boat...get aboard for a sail and let us
know what you think.

I haven't met the couple who bought it, but that will be quickly remedied
come spring.

I've always liked Starck's interiors. The first one we saw was at an
in-the-water boat show, and the dealership had put some faux ferns and
plants on the flat areas, plus a framed photograph and a framed painting on
bulkheads. The effect was pleasant and comfortable-looking, and the quality
looked really good; better than Beneteau's current Oceanis line, which has
lots of quality control problems IMO.

It will be interesting to compare the performance of this 38s5 to my
friend's 445, just acquired this past fall. I think the 38 will be probably
be faster.

Max

It will be interesting to compare the performance of this 38s5 to my
friend's 445, just acquired this past fall. I think the 38 will be
probably
be faster.

I agree for the most part. Beneteau's quality was really quite good
with the 32s5, 35s5 and 38s5. I've been told that the 345 was also a
really well made boat, though less showy than the Starck designs below.
I'm already thinking of a 45f5 as a next boat!

RB
35s5
NY