It's all About the Boat
 

And here's why:

Half the people here either don't have boats at all, lie about having a
boat and how they sail it and so on. How much sailing can you all do
when you post here EVERY DAY? The summer before last I barely posted at
all, while the rest of you continued like it was the dead of winter. I
was out 3 days a week and most weekends.
I know most of you are 9-5ers who don't go sailing much.

And so...IT's all about the boat. And mine is unique...less than 120
35s5's in the whole country. No other Beneteau looks like it, except
for the little sister 32s5 and no other boat except for the baby Swan
has the same cabin cues. Her profile and aft section don't look like
much else.
And then she also sails great, has a custom interior (more so that
Sloco's Express ever did) lots of space and so on.
Nobody here has a better performing boat, a cleaner vessel or one
that's as much fun to sail. This is why Jeff's panties are in a bunch.
He really does want to kill himself! Poor Bob Crantz can do little else
but wait for my next troll and the rest of you hope and dream that I
won't have a blast aboard the 35s5 come spring.
Bad news, losers...I will.


RB
35s5...King of Sailing.asa boats!
NY

It's all About the Boat
 

Heh Heh Heh!!!!...... I _t-h-o-u-g-h-t_ you said you weren't trolling
today...
H-m-m-m-m-m-m-m??????

CM

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
And here's why:

Half the people here either don't have boats at all, lie about having a
boat and how they sail it and so on. How much sailing can you all do
when you post here EVERY DAY? The summer before last I barely posted at
all, while the rest of you continued like it was the dead of winter. I
was out 3 days a week and most weekends.
I know most of you are 9-5ers who don't go sailing much.

And so...IT's all about the boat. And mine is unique...less than 120
35s5's in the whole country. No other Beneteau looks like it, except
for the little sister 32s5 and no other boat except for the baby Swan
has the same cabin cues. Her profile and aft section don't look like
much else.
And then she also sails great, has a custom interior (more so that
Sloco's Express ever did) lots of space and so on.
Nobody here has a better performing boat, a cleaner vessel or one
that's as much fun to sail. This is why Jeff's panties are in a bunch.
He really does want to kill himself! Poor Bob Crantz can do little else
but wait for my next troll and the rest of you hope and dream that I
won't have a blast aboard the 35s5 come spring.
Bad news, losers...I will.


RB
35s5...King of Sailing.asa boats!
NY

It's all About the Boat
 

Heh Heh Heh!!!!...... I _t-h-o-u-g-h-t_ you said you weren't
trolling
today...

Suzanne is at work, Thomas is sleeping, and there's nothing good on the
tube. Don't feel like reading either.
Pulled the holding tank on the boat...awful job in the snow. Some
friends came by to see the boat...they brought hot chocolate! Had lunch
at CIYC and got into a debate on cruising multihulls. Funny that the
only sailor there who liked them previously owned a Marshall cat boat.
I think Jeff said he owned a Nonsuch...a pure retiree boat for sure.
I'm detecting a trend.
Where's Jeff? Did he kill himself?

RB
35s5
NY

It's all About the Boat
 

*That* was a troll?



"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:OrLkf.189682$Io.92334@clgrps13...
Heh Heh Heh!!!!...... I _t-h-o-u-g-h-t_ you said you weren't
trolling
today...
H-m-m-m-m-m-m-m??????

CM

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
And here's why:

Half the people here either don't have boats at all, lie
about having a
boat and how they sail it and so on. How much sailing can you
all do
when you post here EVERY DAY? The summer before last I barely
posted at
all, while the rest of you continued like it was the dead of
winter. I
was out 3 days a week and most weekends.
I know most of you are 9-5ers who don't go sailing much.

And so...IT's all about the boat. And mine is unique...less
than 120
35s5's in the whole country. No other Beneteau looks like it,
except
for the little sister 32s5 and no other boat except for the
baby Swan
has the same cabin cues. Her profile and aft section don't
look like
much else.
And then she also sails great, has a custom interior (more so
that
Sloco's Express ever did) lots of space and so on.
Nobody here has a better performing boat, a cleaner vessel or
one
that's as much fun to sail. This is why Jeff's panties are in
a bunch.
He really does want to kill himself! Poor Bob Crantz can do
little else
but wait for my next troll and the rest of you hope and dream
that I
won't have a blast aboard the 35s5 come spring.
Bad news, losers...I will.


RB
35s5...King of Sailing.asa boats!
NY

It's all About the Boat
 

Let me clarify a couple of points for you, bs.
I owned Express 30 hull #59, Loco has #57. The
interiors were different. I had a copy of the
original order where the purchaser had drawn what
he wanted in the interior. Do you think Beneteau
would do that? The 30 that I mentioned was for
sale has different interior from either #57 or
#59. Also, there were less than 100 Express 30's
built. According to your reasoning, that
instantly makes it better than your bene.
As for sailing, from April to November, sailing is
my life. I race two nights a week on one-design
dinghies and one night on the Bristol. I run the
local sailing center, sailing and instructing
every day. They actually pay me to do it. My
wife and oldest son got jealous and now they work
with me. Of course, they each only earn half of
what I do, so the family income is all the way up
to $20k/year. (can you tell it's not about the
money?).
Oh, and bs, none of my boats or my wife's project
boat are 'put away for the winter'. We don't have
to wait till spring to sail. But, maybe if you
keep crying out you'll make it through to spring
sooner.
S.


"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
: And here's why:
:
: Half the people here either don't have boats at
all, lie about having a
: boat and how they sail it and so on. How much
sailing can you all do
: when you post here EVERY DAY? The summer before
last I barely posted at
: all, while the rest of you continued like it was
the dead of winter. I
: was out 3 days a week and most weekends.
: I know most of you are 9-5ers who don't go
sailing much.
:
: And so...IT's all about the boat. And mine is
unique...less than 120
: 35s5's in the whole country. No other Beneteau
looks like it, except
: for the little sister 32s5 and no other boat
except for the baby Swan
: has the same cabin cues. Her profile and aft
section don't look like
: much else.
: And then she also sails great, has a custom
interior (more so that
: Sloco's Express ever did) lots of space and so
on.
: Nobody here has a better performing boat, a
cleaner vessel or one
: that's as much fun to sail. This is why Jeff's
panties are in a bunch.
: He really does want to kill himself! Poor Bob
Crantz can do little else
: but wait for my next troll and the rest of you
hope and dream that I
: won't have a blast aboard the 35s5 come spring.
: Bad news, losers...I will.
:
:
: RB
: 35s5...King of Sailing.asa boats!
: NY
:

It's all About the Boat
 

Let me clarify a couple of points for you, bs.
I owned Express 30 hull #59, Loco has #57. The
interiors were different. I had a copy of the
original order where the purchaser had drawn what
he wanted in the interior. Do you think Beneteau
would do that?

Yep, and they did. Pretty amazing given the fact that the interior was
an award winning design on it's own. Still you could ask for two aft
cabins, strip out the V for racing, get a version with a extra large
single aft cabin and so on. A few models got dinettes and my boat has a
custom teak interior, offered by Beneteau for a premium along with
special fabrics and window shades. 2 keels were offered, but Beneteau
made a few 5.5 fins for owners as well. There were many more options
for a boat well up-market of the 35s5. Also take note...the 35s5 sells
for close to have of her original cost. The Express 30 is only selling
for a 3rd or even less! Why is that????

Also, there were less than 100 Express 30's
built. According to your reasoning, that
instantly makes it better than your bene.

That would be a more valid point if the Express 30 was a nice looking
boat. It's not. It looks like an unsweetended C&C, so much so that a
few folks here mentioned how much alike the C&C and Express looked.
Still, the Express is the boxy uglified version, though faster than her
C&C cousins. I didn't know they only got to 100 hulls. That's quite a
failure and explains why so few people even heard of them. I like the
impressive performance of the Express, but can't get past the looks or
cheap looking interior.
When I considered one, every person I sent pics of the Express 30 to
thought it was ugly. And guess what? A certain budy of Sloco's also
thought it was ugly (when we were on happier terms) way back when.

Given a choice between a J30 or Express 30....I'll actually pass on
both. And I did.

RB
35s5
NY

It's all About the Boat
 

A few models got dinettes and my boat has a
custom teak interior, offered by Beneteau for a premium

What's different about your interior? It's the same fake mahogany
colored teak that every 35s5 has.

along with special fabrics and window shades.

Well Express offered way cool window shades as an option. I have them.

2 keels were offered

Gee, Express did the same. Must be a great boat.

There were many more options for a boat well up-market of the
35s5.

I've never seen any boat over 30' that didn't have a list of options an
arm length long. Means nothing.

,Also take note...the 35s5 sells for close to have of her original
cost. The Express 30 is only selling for a 3rd or even less! Why is
that????

Asshat, the Express is older. I'd be willing to bet the Beneteau is
selling for a lesser percentage of it's cost new when it's 20 years
old. Wanna bet?

It's all About the Boat
 

so much so that a
few folks here mentioned how much alike the C&C and Express looked.
Still, the Express is the boxy uglified version, though faster than her

C&C cousins. I didn't know they only got to 100 hulls. That's quite a
failure and explains why so few people even heard of them. I like the
impressive performance of the Express, but can't get past the looks or
cheap looking interior.

If you knew anything you would know that Express Yachts was founded by
a few ex C&C people. That's why there are some construction
similarities. As far as design, C&C uses in house (Rob Ball) and
Express used Steve Killing. They only got to around 90 hulls because
it was the mid eighties when many manufactures went under. Hell, even
S2 left the sailboat business. No one can say they wern't successful.
As far as the thirty being ugly ..... I've never met anyone who thought
that and you look silly when you make the statement. But hey, you
claim 120 or so 35s5s was a big success story or was it that they were
worth more since they built less. Here's a factoid. Your 35s5 is not
the speed demon you claim. It's just average for a 35 footer at best.
An easy example is the Express 35: Better construction, interior that
is just as nice probably constructed better, great offshore
racer/cruiser and it rates 108. Boobie, that's way faster than your
new ride.

It's all About the Boat
 

If you knew anything you would know that Express Yachts was founded by
a few ex C&C people.

What an idiot!!! I said they were cousins!

They only got to around 90 hulls because
it was the mid eighties when many manufactures went under.

Not Beneteau. They were able to adapt. Boats from C&C and Express were
already lacking major features of better boats from Europe and couldn't
compete. Oh...and now it's 90 hulls!!!!

As far as the thirty being ugly ..... I've never met anyone who
thought
that and you look silly when you make the statement.

They were being nice to you since you own one. I e-mailed pics of the
Express 30 to a lot of people and virtually everyone said it looked
dated and "hard" looking. I agree, mostly due to slab stern section and
boxy cabin trunk that needs softer integration with the deck. She has
weak lines.

But hey, you
claim 120 or so 35s5s was a big success story or was it that they were
worth more since they built less.

They sold 450 of them!!!! There are about 120 in the US. Dohh!!!!
Bwahahahahaha! The 35s5 was a big success, just too expensive here.


Your 35s5 is not
the speed demon you claim. It's just average for a 35 footer at best.
An easy example is the Express 35:

Hmmmmm. Most 35 foot boats handicap above 140. A Catalalina 36 is an
average boat. The 35s5 rates as low as 114 and has beaten the Express
35 boat for boat as I posted! The Express interior is AWFUL and dated.
I can't believe you'd even bring that up. Then again 120 isn't a whole
lot faster than your boat, as you've pointed out! But suddenly 108 is a
LOT faster than my boat???
Must be that new math again!

Oh my...you screwed the pooch!

RB
35s5
NY

It's all About the Boat
 

Asshat, the Express is older. I'd be willing to bet the Beneteau is
selling for a lesser percentage of it's cost new when it's 20 years
old. Wanna bet?


You got a bet. The 35s5 is selling for more now than it was 4 years
ago. You know nothing about the market. Boats like the 35s5...with aft
cabins, swim platforms and many "modern" features coupled with
performance hold their value better than boats that are obviously dated
like yours...which simply looks old. If my boat had a walk-thru transom
it would hold it's value even better.
Man, you are one dumb dude!

What's different about your interior? It's the same fake mahogany
colored teak that every 35s5 has.

I guess you never saw pics of the alternate or standard interiors. Take
a look on Yachtworld. I don't have the dark interior.

RB
35s5
NY