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Capt. Rob December 4th 05 01:43 PM

35s5 vs. J30 vs Depress 30 vs Mothra
 
I stopped by UK sails yesterday for an insurance job on a tahiti ketch
I'm handling and I ran into Doug Mett, who does a lot of local racing
and just got back from a huge rigging job in Japan aboard a boat called
nippon maru (I think). Anyway, we got to talking about the 35s5, which
he has sailed and we got to talking about the J30 and J29. I mentioned
the Express 30, just curious to see if he knew the boat. I'm
paraphrasing:

"Express was basically trying to combine a J29 with a C&C, which made
sense at that time. You're boat is a far more evolved expression of
that concept, though Beneteau dropped the ball after a while by not
making a smaller boat. The J30 is harder to sail well, but will almost
always smash her rating with a good crew. Boat for boat we could always
beat an Express, once of which was expertly sailed by yours truly and
still lost. The deck of the J30 is also much better for the crew. The
Express is easier to sail when you're less experienced, but it's just
not the machine the J30 is. I'd take a J29 over either of course!"

On my 35s5...

"The boat is a total blast, especially upwind. On a reach we've
literally doubled hull speed a few times. The downside is rig tuning.
You're going to have to be more involved with the rig and adjustments
than on your C&C. She'll always be fast, but to get that last 10% you
need to get things just right. You won't believe how the boat tacks
really fast."

On that note, this from a fellow who e-mailed me...

"we sailed her (the 35s5) in the Caribbean, shallow water, moderate
seas and airs, 17 to 35 kts for the most part, and she was a dream in
experienced hands, dry, stiff, and smooth. Handling her is more a
question of sail balance and anticipation than anything else. Small
adjustments make large differences. Even stays tension affects down
wind performance. Reefing actually increased speed in blustery
conditions. Mainsail and jib have to in tune to hear her song."

RB
35s5
NY


Scotty December 4th 05 03:16 PM

Bob vs ASA
 
Doesn't sound like a very good boat for cruising.

Moderate airs , 17 - 35 kts. ?

Scotty


"Swab Rob" wrote in

On my 35s5...

The downside is rig tuning.
You're going to have to be more involved with the rig and

adjustments
than on your C&C. She'll always be fast, but to get that last

10% you
need to get things just right.

On that note, this from a fellow who e-mailed me...

"we sailed her (the 35s5) in the Caribbean, shallow water,

moderate
seas and airs, 17 to 35 kts for the most part, and she was a

dream in
experienced hands, dry, stiff, and smooth. Handling her is more

a
question of sail balance and anticipation than anything else.

Small
adjustments make large differences. Even stays tension affects

down
wind performance. Reefing actually increased speed in

blustery
conditions. Mainsail and jib have to in tune to hear her

song."

RB
35s5
NY




Joe December 4th 05 03:29 PM

Bob vs ASA
 
35kts is moderate for RedCloud

Joe


rgnmstr December 5th 05 05:52 AM

35s5 vs. J30 vs Depress 30 vs Mothra
 
"Express was basically trying to combine a J29 with a C&C, which made
sense at that time.

LOL .................. That statement might be true for the Express 30M
maybe. I wonder if your "expert witness" knows the difference. Then
again who cares since he thinks your boat is a hoot.


Capt. Rob December 5th 05 11:54 AM

35s5 vs. J30 vs Depress 30 vs Mothra
 
Then
again who cares since he thinks your boat is a hoot.


Let's get this straight...Sloco thinks the 35s5 is not a fun boat to
sail?
Ohhhhhhh noooooooo!!!! Puhlease!!! LOVE MY BOAT!!!!


RB
35s5....The Love Boat!
NY



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