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jlrogers December 4th 05 03:31 PM

The Whole Point: Why not a cruising Multi?
 
In Pottsville? My gracious, how the mighty have fallen.

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
I'm having instant coffee and a Pop-Tart.

SV


"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:T1Dkf.151802$yS6.40978@clgrps12...
Aw be adventurous... it's Sunday! It might unlock a

"superpower" you didn't
know you had! :-)

I'm going up to make breakfast now.... thick cut slices of

bacon from my
buddy's pigs [ he finished them off with last year's maple

syrup, carrots,
milk and apples] I got a 150 lbs of home-grown pork in the

freezer. I'll
also fry up some fresh eggs... fresh like I go out and collect

them from the
chook coop. The lady up the road trades us fresh home baked

bread for
eggs.... I'll slice some of that up and toast it.... does that

ever go down
nice with homemade butter and the jams/jellies we made last

month.

CM

"jlrogers" wrote in message
t...
Friend just brought breakfast...along with something he calls

"desert
vision." Made from the local catus and some homegrown. From

the look in
his eye, I may pass.

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:xHCkf.151737$yS6.80279@clgrps12...
31 degrees F, sunshine, no wind, clear..... fed the

chickens and the
dogs, got the weekend newspaper.

CM

"jlrogers" wrote in message
t...
Just waiting for the pre-game shows and the games to start.

25 degrees
F, and windy, on the desert no less. Drinking coffee,

smoking
cigarettes, but no flowers on the wall.

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:BfCkf.151733$yS6.135700@clgrps12...
Yup!.... morning coffee and nuthin' worth reading in the

newspaper :-)

CM

"jlrogers" wrote in message
...
Bored, are you?
"Capt.Mooron" wrote in

message
news:s6Ckf.151732$yS6.130132@clgrps12...
Ahem......

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

We buy a boat for no practical
reason. Oh, we can defend the sailboat with many

arguments. A person
or
family does need an outlet, a way to relax one's mind,

to bring
friends
and family closer. But there are less expensive ways to

do that than
owning a yacht.

I bought mine to live on... which I did for 9 years.

And that brings us back to beauty. Picture a sailboat
in your mind; a long slender crescent moon topped with

an impossibly
large triangle of cloth, a floating pendulum of grace

designed to
harness the power of the wind. It's quite an amazing

thing really.
The
experience, as a boat heels over in that first gust of

wind, sails
powering up, the dramatic effort as tons of hull

balances and slices
through the water, is nothing less than orgasmic.

I hope this isn't an example of the writing skills used

in your book.

Sailing isn't about speed. It isn't about comfort and

sure as hell
isn't about how far you sail.

The hell you say..... what's it about then.. a dock

condo in a mega
city? if it isn't about comfort why do you go on and on

about bunks
and AC and.... well, point proven.

You could spend a lifetime sailing on a
small lake and never need anything more.

Bull****.... unless you're skeered of the big water.


Or you could sail across an
ocean. It's all the same as it all brings you back to

that first
magic
moment.

Put down the crack pipe Bob....

The rest, all the rest are only details.
If you want to get there faster, buy a speedboat. If

you don't like
the
heeling, buy a trawler.

How about just buying whatever you like.

The beauty of sailing is in the inefficiency of
it all in a world that forces us to be efficient, the

impractically
in
a life that demands practicality.

Say what??!!! The efficency is movement without

ependiture of
fuel.... try it sometime on your sailboat. Contary to

what you
believe... the engine does not have to be on for the

boat to move.

Trying to force practicality onto a
sailing vessel is like adding a trailer to a Jaguar E

Type, or
adding a
hull and taking away the heeling and beauty of a

sailboat.

That's just a dumb statement. You're envious that Jeff's

Moby-Dock
has more real estate than your Dock-Condo

So...two all the aspiring dreamers out the Stay away

from a boat
like Jeff's. It's an abomination. It's ugly plain and

simple. Want
to
be practical? Buy a minivan, but don't tarnish a dream

of sailing
with
a boat that looks and sails like one. Buy a sailboat

that fits your
dream, that picture in your mind. It can be a Catalina

30 or a
Rhodes
19 or a lavish Sweden 39. The joys of a keelboat are

boundless.
There
are SUV's that are faster than a Miata, but no one

seeking a
sportscar
would trade that feeling for extra seats....except

maybe Jeff.

"joys of a keelboat"???..... this coming from a fin

keeler is nothing
short of hilarious.

I know , I know... you sat here and crafted this lure

for Jeff. I
apologize.... there was just so little in the way of

posts here that
I decided to reply.

CM


















Capt.Mooron December 4th 05 03:45 PM

The Whole Point: Why not a cruising Multi?
 

"jlrogers" wrote in message

Oh, my God, fresh eggs, from free ranging chickens too, I'll bet! Home
cured pork and home made jam. Fresh baked bread. Brings back 1949 -
1956 for me, when I lived on a farm. Please tell me the butter is fresh
churned, and that you and the cats and the dogs all have a bit of warm
cream in your wiskers.


No cats here... but yes on the dogs.

Fresh churned in Sweetland by another buddy of mine who has a small farm.
Man that butter is good! I get my beef from him and he also keeps milk cows
.... so I can get fresh unpasturized straight from the cow and either buy a
big s/s jug or a few old fashioned glass milk bottles full. Once you taste
real milk fresh.. it's hard to look at store bought as anything but a
bottled beverage. I also get cured ham and bacon as well as smoked salmon
from my friend's next door neighbour.

We try and buy only from small private farms. These people live from their
farms and the products they provide are superior.

I can't see buying from retail chains that dye and soak their meat in brine
to add weight. Their meat was commercially raised with no thought to the
welfare of the animals other than end product value. You won't see mad cows
in a small farm.

People like Bob for instance have never had the opportunity to taste
anything fresh. His diet is a pre-packaged, chemical added, mislabelled
cacophony of manufactured food substitutes. The meat he consumes is old, the
fish stale and the eggs bland and sterile. Bob has never killed, butchered
and eaten his own food. He does not understand the basic tenets of providing
a good life to the farm animals and a quick death prior to use. This goes
for hunting as well... I can't understand "Trophy" hunts at all.

I can already hear Bob's protests... but let's face it... he "Trophy" hunts
for toys, he settles for less for his family's food requirements, he has
time on his hands because he lets his real obligations slip. It's sad... but
it's the life of a city slicker... where appearance, perceived status and
material possessions make the man. Us country folk prefer to judge a man on
his word, his work ethic and attention to responsibilities.

Btw - Breakfast was FANASTIC!! Big tasty orange/yellow yolks, I like to put
a bit of garlic chives which we grow outside in the summer on the eggs along
with grated Gouda cheese which we buy in 30lb Rounds. The 1/8" thick bacon
slices were superb and the toasted homemade bread with homemade butter and
homemade apple/pear jelly... was to die for. Did I mention we have six
different kinds of apple trees growing around the house and 4 pear trees.

CM



CM



Capt.Mooron December 4th 05 03:50 PM

The Whole Point: Why not a cruising Multi?
 

"Scotty" wrote in message

I'm having instant coffee and a Pop-Tart.


With squirty cheese?

CM



Capt.Mooron December 4th 05 03:52 PM

The Whole Point: Why not a cruising Multi?
 
Nope... not a flake. None predicted for another month. We're scheduled for
a warm winter. They expect it to be the warmest in 30 years. It warmed up
already and should be 11c in another hour.

CM

CM
"Scotty" wrote in message
...
Any snow up there yet? We got 1 inch last night. Just a
nuisance.



Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:xHCkf.151737$yS6.80279@clgrps12...
31 degrees F, sunshine, no wind, clear..... fed the chickens

and the dogs,
got the weekend newspaper.

CM

"jlrogers" wrote in message
t...
Just waiting for the pre-game shows and the games to start.

25 degrees F,
and windy, on the desert no less. Drinking coffee, smoking

cigarettes,
but no flowers on the wall.

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:BfCkf.151733$yS6.135700@clgrps12...
Yup!.... morning coffee and nuthin' worth reading in the

newspaper :-)

CM

"jlrogers" wrote in message
...
Bored, are you?
"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:s6Ckf.151732$yS6.130132@clgrps12...
Ahem......

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

We buy a boat for no practical
reason. Oh, we can defend the sailboat with many

arguments. A person
or
family does need an outlet, a way to relax one's mind, to

bring
friends
and family closer. But there are less expensive ways to

do that than
owning a yacht.

I bought mine to live on... which I did for 9 years.

And that brings us back to beauty. Picture a sailboat
in your mind; a long slender crescent moon topped with an

impossibly
large triangle of cloth, a floating pendulum of grace

designed to
harness the power of the wind. It's quite an amazing

thing really. The
experience, as a boat heels over in that first gust of

wind, sails
powering up, the dramatic effort as tons of hull balances

and slices
through the water, is nothing less than orgasmic.

I hope this isn't an example of the writing skills used in

your book.

Sailing isn't about speed. It isn't about comfort and

sure as hell
isn't about how far you sail.

The hell you say..... what's it about then.. a dock condo

in a mega
city? if it isn't about comfort why do you go on and on

about bunks and
AC and.... well, point proven.

You could spend a lifetime sailing on a
small lake and never need anything more.

Bull****.... unless you're skeered of the big water.


Or you could sail across an
ocean. It's all the same as it all brings you back to

that first magic
moment.

Put down the crack pipe Bob....

The rest, all the rest are only details.
If you want to get there faster, buy a speedboat. If you

don't like
the
heeling, buy a trawler.

How about just buying whatever you like.

The beauty of sailing is in the inefficiency of
it all in a world that forces us to be efficient, the

impractically in
a life that demands practicality.

Say what??!!! The efficency is movement without

ependiture of fuel....
try it sometime on your sailboat. Contary to what you

believe... the
engine does not have to be on for the boat to move.

Trying to force practicality onto a
sailing vessel is like adding a trailer to a Jaguar E

Type, or adding
a
hull and taking away the heeling and beauty of a

sailboat.

That's just a dumb statement. You're envious that Jeff's

Moby-Dock has
more real estate than your Dock-Condo

So...two all the aspiring dreamers out the Stay away

from a boat
like Jeff's. It's an abomination. It's ugly plain and

simple. Want to
be practical? Buy a minivan, but don't tarnish a dream of

sailing with
a boat that looks and sails like one. Buy a sailboat that

fits your
dream, that picture in your mind. It can be a Catalina 30

or a Rhodes
19 or a lavish Sweden 39. The joys of a keelboat are

boundless. There
are SUV's that are faster than a Miata, but no one

seeking a sportscar
would trade that feeling for extra seats....except maybe

Jeff.

"joys of a keelboat"???..... this coming from a fin keeler

is nothing
short of hilarious.

I know , I know... you sat here and crafted this lure for

Jeff. I
apologize.... there was just so little in the way of posts

here that I
decided to reply.

CM














Scotty December 4th 05 04:05 PM

The Whole Point: Why not a cruising Multi?
 
No, in Plowville, Pottsville , where Americas oldest brewery,
Yuengling is, is 40 miles to the north.

--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_

"jlrogers" wrote in message
t...
In Pottsville? My gracious, how the mighty have fallen.

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
I'm having instant coffee and a Pop-Tart.

SV


"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:T1Dkf.151802$yS6.40978@clgrps12...
Aw be adventurous... it's Sunday! It might unlock a

"superpower" you didn't
know you had! :-)

I'm going up to make breakfast now.... thick cut slices of

bacon from my
buddy's pigs [ he finished them off with last year's maple

syrup, carrots,
milk and apples] I got a 150 lbs of home-grown pork in the

freezer. I'll
also fry up some fresh eggs... fresh like I go out and

collect
them from the
chook coop. The lady up the road trades us fresh home baked

bread for
eggs.... I'll slice some of that up and toast it.... does

that
ever go down
nice with homemade butter and the jams/jellies we made last

month.

CM

"jlrogers" wrote in message
t...
Friend just brought breakfast...along with something he

calls
"desert
vision." Made from the local catus and some homegrown.

From
the look in
his eye, I may pass.

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:xHCkf.151737$yS6.80279@clgrps12...
31 degrees F, sunshine, no wind, clear..... fed the

chickens and the
dogs, got the weekend newspaper.

CM

"jlrogers" wrote in message
t...
Just waiting for the pre-game shows and the games to

start.
25 degrees
F, and windy, on the desert no less. Drinking coffee,

smoking
cigarettes, but no flowers on the wall.

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in

message
news:BfCkf.151733$yS6.135700@clgrps12...
Yup!.... morning coffee and nuthin' worth reading in

the
newspaper :-)

CM

"jlrogers" wrote in message
...
Bored, are you?
"Capt.Mooron" wrote in

message
news:s6Ckf.151732$yS6.130132@clgrps12...
Ahem......

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

We buy a boat for no practical
reason. Oh, we can defend the sailboat with many

arguments. A person
or
family does need an outlet, a way to relax one's

mind,
to bring
friends
and family closer. But there are less expensive ways

to
do that than
owning a yacht.

I bought mine to live on... which I did for 9 years.

And that brings us back to beauty. Picture a sailboat
in your mind; a long slender crescent moon topped

with
an impossibly
large triangle of cloth, a floating pendulum of

grace
designed to
harness the power of the wind. It's quite an amazing

thing really.
The
experience, as a boat heels over in that first gust

of
wind, sails
powering up, the dramatic effort as tons of hull

balances and slices
through the water, is nothing less than orgasmic.

I hope this isn't an example of the writing skills

used
in your book.

Sailing isn't about speed. It isn't about comfort

and
sure as hell
isn't about how far you sail.

The hell you say..... what's it about then.. a dock

condo in a mega
city? if it isn't about comfort why do you go on and

on
about bunks
and AC and.... well, point proven.

You could spend a lifetime sailing on a
small lake and never need anything more.

Bull****.... unless you're skeered of the big water.


Or you could sail across an
ocean. It's all the same as it all brings you back

to
that first
magic
moment.

Put down the crack pipe Bob....

The rest, all the rest are only details.
If you want to get there faster, buy a speedboat. If

you don't like
the
heeling, buy a trawler.

How about just buying whatever you like.

The beauty of sailing is in the inefficiency of
it all in a world that forces us to be efficient,

the
impractically
in
a life that demands practicality.

Say what??!!! The efficency is movement without

ependiture of
fuel.... try it sometime on your sailboat. Contary to

what you
believe... the engine does not have to be on for the

boat to move.

Trying to force practicality onto a
sailing vessel is like adding a trailer to a Jaguar

E
Type, or
adding a
hull and taking away the heeling and beauty of a

sailboat.

That's just a dumb statement. You're envious that

Jeff's
Moby-Dock
has more real estate than your Dock-Condo

So...two all the aspiring dreamers out the Stay

away
from a boat
like Jeff's. It's an abomination. It's ugly plain

and
simple. Want
to
be practical? Buy a minivan, but don't tarnish a

dream
of sailing
with
a boat that looks and sails like one. Buy a sailboat

that fits your
dream, that picture in your mind. It can be a

Catalina
30 or a
Rhodes
19 or a lavish Sweden 39. The joys of a keelboat are

boundless.
There
are SUV's that are faster than a Miata, but no one

seeking a
sportscar
would trade that feeling for extra seats....except

maybe Jeff.

"joys of a keelboat"???..... this coming from a fin

keeler is nothing
short of hilarious.

I know , I know... you sat here and crafted this lure

for Jeff. I
apologize.... there was just so little in the way of

posts here that
I decided to reply.

CM




















Scotty December 4th 05 04:07 PM

The Whole Point: Why not a cruising Multi?
 

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:IeEkf.152278$yS6.7596@clgrps12...

"Scotty" wrote in message

I'm having instant coffee and a Pop-Tart.


With squirty cheese?



Well, Duh! It's Sunday!

Scotty



Thom Stewart December 4th 05 04:07 PM

The Whole Point: Why not a cruising Multi?
 
"Not trolling for the restof the day'"

Even the Lord rested on the seventh day.



http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage


Bob Crantz December 4th 05 04:19 PM

The Whole Point: Why not a cruising Multi?
 
In essence:

The life you lead is not the one you chose and sailing is the only element
of your life you feel you have control, yet it is inefficient and at the
mercy of the elements.

Sailing is about beauty, in fact it is the whole point. Beauty abounds in
loading the family into a large, mass produced piece of plastic and entering
the waters crowded with others just as lost, sailing upon an ocean of
sewage, breathing the air of one of the world's most polluted cities and
then driving along the freeways packed with 11 million other drivers.

Now he's trying to correct an unbalanced lifestyle by buying a boat. Guess
what Robbie.

His whole spiel is amazingly contradicted by his antics on this forum. His
actions patently betray his words.

Nice try, go compose something else. Sailing may be about beauty to some,
but what is your life to you? Appreciating fine things you say? But then you
are simply a spectator, riding on the backs of those who come before you.
Appreciating the best life has to offer? Again you are living by handouts.

Amen!


"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...

Sailing is about beauty. If you don't get that you miss the whole point
of sailing as a recreational activity. We buy a boat for no practical
reason. Oh, we can defend the sailboat with many arguments. A person or
family does need an outlet, a way to relax one's mind, to bring friends
and family closer. But there are less expensive ways to do that than
owning a yacht. And that brings us back to beauty. Picture a sailboat
in your mind; a long slender crescent moon topped with an impossibly
large triangle of cloth, a floating pendulum of grace designed to
harness the power of the wind. It's quite an amazing thing really. The
experience, as a boat heels over in that first gust of wind, sails
powering up, the dramatic effort as tons of hull balances and slices
through the water, is nothing less than orgasmic.
Sailing isn't about speed. It isn't about comfort and sure as hell
isn't about how far you sail. You could spend a lifetime sailing on a
small lake and never need anything more. Or you could sail across an
ocean. It's all the same as it all brings you back to that first magic
moment. The rest, all the rest are only details.
If you want to get there faster, buy a speedboat. If you don't like the
heeling, buy a trawler. The beauty of sailing is in the inefficiency of
it all in a world that forces us to be efficient, the impractically in
a life that demands practicality. Trying to force practicality onto a
sailing vessel is like adding a trailer to a Jaguar E Type, or adding a
hull and taking away the heeling and beauty of a sailboat.
So...two all the aspiring dreamers out the Stay away from a boat
like Jeff's. It's an abomination. It's ugly plain and simple. Want to
be practical? Buy a minivan, but don't tarnish a dream of sailing with
a boat that looks and sails like one. Buy a sailboat that fits your
dream, that picture in your mind. It can be a Catalina 30 or a Rhodes
19 or a lavish Sweden 39. The joys of a keelboat are boundless. There
are SUV's that are faster than a Miata, but no one seeking a sportscar
would trade that feeling for extra seats....except maybe Jeff.

RB
35s5
NY




Joe December 4th 05 04:21 PM

The Whole Point: Why not a cruising Multi?
 
Sounds like good eating Mooron. Come down here some day and Ill show
you what beef is suppose to taste like.
Nothing like a fresh grain feed Angus Ribeye aboout 2" thick cooked on
Mesquite chips. A buddy has a nice ranch close to here in a town called
Cut & Shoot.

When you say you can not understand Trophy hunts at all, were you able
to discuss with your father how he felt about killing that Elephant?

We like or scrambled eggs mixed with spicy whitetail deer sasauge,
covered with fresh salsa made from 2 garden tomatoes ripe and red, 1/2
a Texas AM sweet white onion, 1 clove garlic, 1/4 red or green
bellpepper, half a hand full of chopped fresh cilantro, 2 fresh
jalepeno's, juice from 1/2 a Texas valley lime, and a dash of salto.
All rolled up in a 12" fresh baked Tortella.

Fresh squeezed OJ from Valley oranges... 20 for a 1.00 right now. Oh
and the grapefruits from the valley are the best on earth.

Sets the stage nicely for an afternoon of Corona beer, and an evening
with Jose Queavo.

Joe


Bob Crantz December 4th 05 04:30 PM

The Whole Point: Why not a cruising Multi?
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
Are you replacing it with a larger one? (Serious question, not a dig!)


Yep. The original is tiny, so we need to upgrade in size. The hoses are
also original, so now is a good time to replace with new. When spring
comes I want as little worry about as possible, so I'm planning to do
lots of stuff now.
Also on the schedule:
Install new stereo head unit with Ipod and DVD
Install 20 inch LCD flat screen and 7 inch screen aft.

Install Garmin 192
Install additional interior lights
Replace spreader lights
Re-repair original thru-hull for AC which was

relocated.
Set up genset platform for quick installation of

Genset and pre-wire.
aaahaahaahahahahahahahahahahaahaaaaa!!!!!!!!

RB
35s5
NY





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