Seamanship Question #27
 

I can think of four compasses each with a dedicated
purpose, that I'd want on an ocan going yacht.

What are they?

Seamanship Question #27
 

KVH Datascope.... bar none one of the best handheld fluxgate compass /
chrono / rangefinder combo around.

CM

"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ...
I can think of four compasses each with a dedicated
purpose, that I'd want on an ocan going yacht.

What are they?

Seamanship Question #27
 

Main secondary... a Fluxgate Compass as a back-up to the binnacle.

CM


"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ...
I can think of four compasses each with a dedicated
purpose, that I'd want on an ocan going yacht.

What are they?

Seamanship Question #27
 

Bart Senior wrote:
I can think of four compasses each with a dedicated
purpose, that I'd want on an ocan going yacht.

What are they?



Helm station

Hand bearing

Nav station

Telltale, over skipper's bunk

Also, as variants, compass binoculars, electronics that can feed
several stations, etc. I keep an old army compass for going ashore on
foggy days, but lately I've used a small gps for that purpose. (Its
embarrassing when you can't find your boat at night ...)

And, of course, the ocean yacht needs a compass in the liferaft.

And don't forget, JAX tells us that a compass can't help you to navigate.

Seamanship Question #27
 

Until they break. The KVH repair policy is "buy a new one."


Capt.Mooron wrote:
KVH Datascope.... bar none one of the best handheld fluxgate compass /
chrono / rangefinder combo around.

CM

"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ...
I can think of four compasses each with a dedicated
purpose, that I'd want on an ocan going yacht.

What are they?

Seamanship Question #27
 

Bart Senior wrote:
I can think of four compasses each with a dedicated
purpose, that I'd want on an ocan going yacht.

What are they?


Steering compass at the helm. (Inside and out)
Hand held compass for visual fixes.
Boats compass for an emergency backup.
Drawing compass for radar fixes.
Tattle tale compass for glancing at from your bunk.
Fluxgate for the autopilot/radar stabilization.

Oops, more than 4!

Seamanship Question #27
 

Jeff wrote:
Until they break. The KVH repair policy is "buy a new one."


Capt.Mooron wrote:

KVH Datascope.... bar none one of the best handheld fluxgate compass
/ chrono / rangefinder combo around.

CM

"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message
...

I can think of four compasses each with a dedicated
purpose, that I'd want on an ocan going yacht.

What are they?



I have a KVH and find it a bit too finnicky to use. It is a geek type
compass that is not as functional as it sounds. A simple handheld works
better if not quite as precisely.

Seamanship Question #27
 

What you really mean is Hand Bearing Compass. 1 point.

"Capt.Mooron" wrote

KVH Datascope.... bar none one of the best handheld fluxgate compass /
chrono / rangefinder combo around.

"Bart Senior" .@. wrote
I can think of four compasses each with a dedicated
purpose, that I'd want on an ocan going yacht.

What are they?

Seamanship Question #27
 

Binnacle. Another point to CM

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
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Main secondary... a Fluxgate Compass as a back-up to the binnacle.

CM


"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message
...
I can think of four compasses each with a dedicated
purpose, that I'd want on an ocan going yacht.

What are they?

Seamanship Question #27
 

"Jeff" wrote

Bart Senior wrote:
I can think of four compasses each with a dedicated
purpose, that I'd want on an ocan going yacht.

What are they?

Helm station ===Correct Hand bearing ====Correct
Nav station ===Correct
Telltale, over skipper's bunk ===Correct

#3 would be a below decks compass.

Also, as variants, compass binoculars, electronics that can feed several
stations, etc. I keep an old army compass for going ashore on foggy days,
but lately I've used a small gps for that purpose. (Its embarrassing when
you can't find your boat at night ...)

And, of course, the ocean yacht needs a compass in the liferaft.

I lumped these two together-- dinghy compass.

2 points to you Jeff, and although CM beat you to two of them,
I'll give you two more points for answering the entire question perfectly.

Seamanship Question #27
 

Good answer Gary. I'm not sure what time zone you
are in. I think Jeff beat you. However, I'll give you
1 point and honorable mention for answering the question
very well.

BTW, I also keep a compass on my lifejacket. I actually
used it twice in fog, once in San Francisco Bay to
find the Berkeley Pier, and another time in Norwalk
Harbor, which along with using my depth gauge and
listening for seagulls complaining on the shore of the
islands, managed to find my way home.

"Gary" wrote

Bart Senior wrote:
I can think of four compasses each with a dedicated
purpose, that I'd want on an ocan going yacht.
What are they?

Steering compass at the helm. (Inside and out)
Hand held compass for visual fixes.
Boats compass for an emergency backup.
Drawing compass for radar fixes.
Tattle tale compass for glancing at from your bunk.
Fluxgate for the autopilot/radar stabilization.
Oops, more than 4!

Seamanship Question #27
 

"Gary" wrote in message

I have a KVH and find it a bit too finnicky to use. It is a geek type
compass that is not as functional as it sounds. A simple handheld works
better if not quite as precisely.

I guess it all depends..... I used mine for nautical and land based
navigation for work extensively for the first month I had it.. The buttons
became second nature quickly. If you only use it occasionally... well yeah
you'd be better off with a manual only. You have to admit that 9 bearing
with time of shot memory as well as range is pretty useful when navigating.
My unit has never failed. I would really be ****ed if KVH did not back up
their product though.

CM

Seamanship Question #27
 

I spend a lot of time down at Cove. A good friend
of mine owns the sailing school there, and I had my
boat hauled there a few years ago.

My boats are in Stratford, and Bridgeport.

What boat do you have. Chances are good I've
seen it. Where do you live?

"Dave" wrote
"Bart Senior" .@. said:

another time in Norwalk
Harbor, which along with using my depth gauge and
listening for seagulls complaining on the shore of the
islands, managed to find my way home.

Are you in Norwalk, Bart? I've got my boat hauled at Norwalk Cove Marina.

Seamanship Question #27
 

Bart Senior wrote:
Good answer Gary. I'm not sure what time zone you
are in. I think Jeff beat you. However, I'll give you
1 point and honorable mention for answering the question
very well.

BTW, I also keep a compass on my lifejacket. I actually
used it twice in fog, once in San Francisco Bay to
find the Berkeley Pier, and another time in Norwalk
Harbor, which along with using my depth gauge and
listening for seagulls complaining on the shore of the
islands, managed to find my way home.

"Gary" wrote


Bart Senior wrote:

I can think of four compasses each with a dedicated
purpose, that I'd want on an ocan going yacht.
What are they?


Steering compass at the helm. (Inside and out)
Hand held compass for visual fixes.
Boats compass for an emergency backup.
Drawing compass for radar fixes.
Tattle tale compass for glancing at from your bunk.
Fluxgate for the autopilot/radar stabilization.
Oops, more than 4!



Pacific Time Zone

Seamanship Question #27
 

Capt.Mooron wrote:
"Gary" wrote in message


I have a KVH and find it a bit too finnicky to use. It is a geek type
compass that is not as functional as it sounds. A simple handheld works
better if not quite as precisely.


I guess it all depends..... I used mine for nautical and land based
navigation for work extensively for the first month I had it.. The buttons
became second nature quickly. If you only use it occasionally... well yeah
you'd be better off with a manual only. You have to admit that 9 bearing
with time of shot memory as well as range is pretty useful when navigating.
My unit has never failed. I would really be ****ed if KVH did not back up
their product though.

CM

I thought that the 9 bearings/times in memory would be useful but I
still prefer to note the times and bearings so I don't have to put
everything down and look into the KVH and push buttons. My goal is to
shoot the fix and have it plotted with a DR in 3 minutes. The KVH slows
the process a lot. I also find it slow to use. It is relegated to
quick shots of approaching vessels, when I am away from the helm, so I
can check bearing movement and rate.

Seamanship Question #27
 

"Gary" wrote in message
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Capt.Mooron wrote:
"Gary" wrote in message


I have a KVH and find it a bit too finnicky to use. It is a geek type
compass that is not as functional as it sounds. A simple handheld works
better if not quite as precisely.


I guess it all depends..... I used mine for nautical and land based
navigation for work extensively for the first month I had it.. The
buttons became second nature quickly. If you only use it occasionally...
well yeah you'd be better off with a manual only. You have to admit that
9 bearing with time of shot memory as well as range is pretty useful when
navigating. My unit has never failed. I would really be ****ed if KVH did
not back up their product though.

CM
I thought that the 9 bearings/times in memory would be useful but I still
prefer to note the times and bearings so I don't have to put everything
down and look into the KVH and push buttons. My goal is to shoot the fix
and have it plotted with a DR in 3 minutes. The KVH slows the process a
lot. I also find it slow to use. It is relegated to quick shots of
approaching vessels, when I am away from the helm, so I can check bearing
movement and rate.

I can see that... still, being able to take even 2 or three bearings and
going below to plot at the nav station is certainly useful. The range finder
is great for coastal landmark verification to compliment another DR plot. I
have also used the range finder when racing to confirm distance to other
vessels from mast height. I'm not touting it as a replacement for a standard
hand bearing compass... but it's an excellent hand held fluxgate compass,
fits in most jacket pockets. I use mine a fair bit.

CM

Seamanship Question #27
 

I have an autohelm hand bearing compass with
nine memories. I like it, it works well. Have to
keep it level for accuracy.

Capt.Mooron wrote:
I thought that the 9 bearings/times in memory would be useful but I still
prefer to note the times and bearings so I don't have to put everything
down and look into the KVH and push buttons. My goal is to shoot the fix
and have it plotted with a DR in 3 minutes. The KVH slows the process a
lot. I also find it slow to use. It is relegated to quick shots of
approaching vessels, when I am away from the helm, so I can check bearing
movement and rate.

Seamanship Question #27
 

Bart Senior wrote:
I have an autohelm hand bearing compass with
nine memories. I like it, it works well. Have to
keep it level for accuracy.


Capt.Mooron wrote:
I thought that the 9 bearings/times in memory would be useful but I still
prefer to note the times and bearings so I don't have to put everything
down and look into the KVH and push buttons. My goal is to shoot the fix
and have it plotted with a DR in 3 minutes. The KVH slows the process a
lot. I also find it slow to use. It is relegated to quick shots of
approaching vessels, when I am away from the helm, so I can check bearing
movement and rate.

Bad edit, I wrote the above, not Capt Mooron.

Gaz