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OzOne wrote in message

Yeah, but they're so slow you've got plenty of time to plan ahead.

I handicapped my performance with a generous supply of rum.... that evens
the slate!

Like you Aussies say to the Ladies... "Drunk and Slow or Sober and Quick??

CM

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Capt.Mooron wrote:
No such thing as cheating when on a lee dock with the wind on your beam.....
kedge is the only way you'll get out with the sails up and no damage to the
vessel ahead on the dock. [Well okay.. on my boat anyway.]


In some spots, *any* boat.

One of the crucial skills a skipper must develop is a "no-go" alarm...
the ability to see what is a difficult but possible situation, and what
is impossible. Of course, the more knowledge & skill, the fewer things
are truly impossible.

I've always liked the challenge of sailing centerboarders off a lee
shore beach. Once we stopped for a picnic on a muddy shore & I lost a
shoe getting the boat off... I bet that shoe is still there, 3' under
the mud!




I'd like to try that. How does the kite compare? Is it faster for the same
(or less) sail area? That's what the kiteboarders claim.



The kite is awesome.... at times it will lift you clear out of the water.
Kind of a squirrelly ride.... but the adrenaline rush is worth it. The
wishbone sail is no slouch either but it's easier on your balance and
stability. It won't lift you clear of the water but the surfing rocks! Have
you done white water?? Wind Skiing?, Parasail?.....

Just plain vanilla wind surfing and white water canoing. You can get
airborn on an old wind surfer too, if you play your cards just right.
But you can't go soaring off into the sky.

DSK

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J B wrote:
You gentlemen need to learn the terms of sailing. When steering the marks
it's a header or a lift, not feather up or down or whatever, steer
according to the wind.... make headway when you can and adjust accordingly.
Point as high as you need to make the mark and hope something doesn't bite
you in the ass on a tack , that would be the move across the wind Rob ,
overrun a winch or whatever. The boat is as fast as the person sailing it. A
First 35s5 may be fast but I can make it faster with my sailing ability
(Come on, Fat man on the rail ,, Knows how to sail.)
JB


Headers and lifts are not the same as footing and pinching or
feathering. I think the technique is to foot off to pick up some speed
the coast up while pinching a little to gain height. when you get
lifted you always chase the wind, when you get headed, tack. Feathering
is also useful when you are over powered but close to the windward bouy
or finish line and you don't want to reef. Just feather up and sail it
out. Very common in dinghies with no reefs.

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DSK wrote:
NotPony wrote:

Feathering can be used to take a 'bite' up wind.
Always sail on the lifted tack. And when you do
get a puff, "ease - hike - trim" are the words to
live by. Generally, a puff is going to stall the
sail. Ease to re-attach the flow, hike to flatten
the boat, trim back in.


Ease to open the leach, yes.
When you get a puff, the apparent wind moves back (lift) because boat
speed becomes less as a percentage of true wind speed so you ease to
properly trim then hike to keep her flat then come up to the same
apparent wind as before. Most puffs can be seen as lifts.

A lot of people simply cleat the mainsheet & ride along, and only ease
when the boat is overpowered to the point of losing steering; that's
more what I meant.

If the boat is balanced & sailing well, close-hauled, and you get a gust
an don't move the tiller... the boat will heel over, the balance will
shift, and the boat will head up on it's own. Then if the gust dies, it
loses heel and the balnace shifts the opposite way... should bear away
back to the course it was on previously. This is not *the* fastest way
to sail, but it's faster than many helmsman can get the boat to windward.


: ... an afternoon of sailing a 14'
crew-ballasted centerboarder in 20
: knots will teach you more than years of sailing
a heavy 30 footer in
: much stronger winds.

Or, try a 17' Thistle.


Same thing ;)

DSK

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In article , DSK
wrote:

Capt.Mooron wrote:
No such thing as cheating when on a lee dock with the wind on your
beam.....
kedge is the only way you'll get out with the sails up and no damage to the
vessel ahead on the dock. [Well okay.. on my boat anyway.]


In some spots, *any* boat.

One of the crucial skills a skipper must develop is a "no-go" alarm...
the ability to see what is a difficult but possible situation, and what
is impossible. Of course, the more knowledge & skill, the fewer things
are truly impossible.

I've always liked the challenge of sailing centerboarders off a lee
shore beach. Once we stopped for a picnic on a muddy shore & I lost a
shoe getting the boat off... I bet that shoe is still there, 3' under
the mud!

That is a right PITA - I do it all too frequently.

PDW