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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

Fast = fun. It also means pointing upwind higher than your boat and
better VMG on every tack. Let me put it another way...

Pearson 30 PHRF ..........174
C&C 32 PHRF ................160
First 35s5 PHRF .............126 (bye bye!)
Nordic 30 PHRF..............180 !!!!!!

330 Sea Ray Express..............30mph cruise, 48mph tops.

Max

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...
I would much prefer a boat that can actually make it to China, but you
do have a very nice boat. We wish you well with it.

Witty comment, Jon. Good one.

Jonathan, even Neal's boat could make it to China just fine.

You'd have been correct had you stopped after the word "China."

A Nordic
30's advantages are also disadvantages. As you know there are many
schools of thought on this, fast light boats vs. heavy for passages.

True. Most who've raced in rotten conditions, such as the Sid-Hobart,
believe that light, fast boats are great if you have the crew to man them.
But they will fatigue crew and skipper quickly in nasty wind and waves.
Those same sailors tend to prefer heavy displacement boats for cruising
shorthanded in those same conditions. The heavy boats will allow the crew
some latitude w/r/t the need to keep the boat on its feet and moving along
with minimal input. The light boats require constant vigilance and input to
keep them on an even keel, and they punish their crews. There was an
article about a decade ago in SAILING magazine about this subject. The
racers mostly prefered heavier boats than their racing machines for
cruising.

Since I won't be going to China and neither will Mooron, I think the
35s5 represents more sailing fun, but this is based on the prevailing
conditions we have here. If Mooron has heavy air often, then his boat
makes sense as well.

If you and Mooron were headed for China, I'd go with him. For a number of
reasons. :-)

Max

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"DSK" wrote in message
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Maxprop wrote:
So, Bubbles, would it upset you terribly to learn that there are at least
two millionaires contributing to this NG? There may be more, but I'm
aware of only two.


Do you use the term "millionaire" defined as "annual income over $1m; or
the traditional net worth over $1mil?

In at least one case it applies to relatively liquid assets. In the other,
I'm not sure--could be net worth.

If the latter, I know of two also, and two more that are very probable. I
wonder if either of them are the same two!

Probably. One of them has been rather forthcoming about his wealth and
holdings in this NG. The other hasn't.

But don't get Bubbles upset, his mom bought him this computer at the pawn
shop and he's trying to have fun with it.

So I take it you won't be surprised when we learn that he is actually 13
y.o.?

Max

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

Golly, Doug!!! That's soooo facinating!!!

Pronounced fah-KIN-ay-ting?

Max

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"Maxprop" wrote
If you and Mooron were headed for China, I'd go with him. For
a number of
reasons. :-)


If they were both going for a one hour sail, I'd go with Moron.
For the obvious reasons. :-)

Scotty

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If they were both going for a one hour sail, I'd go with Moron.
For the obvious reasons. :-)


Oh, sure....just because I sail sober. You continue to hurt my
feelings, Scotty. Why?


RB
35s5...a boat with no booze
NY

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"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message

Fast?? ...don't make me laugh.. it hurts my aching shoulder. You don't
race Bob... why would fast matter?

Good point. The powerboaters on our dock laugh themselves silly when we
sailors discuss "speed."

Max

Funny, racers never discuss it much either, unless it's something like, we
feel slow, did we pick up weeds? Or, how much time do we give them, do they
give us?

John Cairns

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"Maxprop" wrote in message ink.net...
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| "Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
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| Fast?? ...don't make me laugh.. it hurts my aching shoulder. You don't
| race Bob... why would fast matter?
|
| Good point. The powerboaters on our dock laugh themselves silly when we
| sailors discuss "speed."
|
| Max
|

Around here if you mention "speed" to any boater they ask for a hit.

CN

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"John Cairns" wrote in message

Funny, racers never discuss it much either, unless it's something like, we
feel slow, did we pick up weeds? Or, how much time do we give them, do
they give us?

Yeah... I agree with you there John..... actual vessel speed is secondary.

CM

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"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

Around here if you mention "speed" to any boater they ask for a hit.

Ha ha ha....... sounds like a warmer version of my location.

CM