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http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache...blisters&hl=en 1989 Hunter 30 - $40,000 in Portland. I think this is a pretty good boat for your purposes. You'll hear a LOT of derision for the 'BeneHuntalina' boats - that's Beneteau, Hunter and Catalina - they are the major 'production' boat builders, and the main beef against them is that 'you wouldn't want to sail out of sight of land in one of them'...... but you said you don't plan to! Bobsprit has the perfect boat for his style of sailing it seems. He never sails out of sight of his dock let alone land. CN |
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"Capt. Neal®" wrote: Bobsprit has the perfect boat for his style of sailing it seems. He never sails out of sight of his dock let alone land. Sounds like idle chatter to me... LP Matt 12:36 But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken. |
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"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... From: http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache...ww.ssca.org/ss cabb/index.php%3Faction%3Dvthread%26forum%3D2%26topic%3 D1775+Bene teau+hull+blisters&hl=en 1989 Hunter 30 - $40,000 in Portland. I think this is a pretty good boat for your purposes. You'll hear a LOT of derision for the 'BeneHuntalina' boats - that's Beneteau, Hunter and Catalina - they are the major 'production' boat builders, and the main beef against them is that 'you wouldn't want to sail out of sight of land in one of them'...... but you said you don't plan to! Bobsprit has the perfect boat for his style of sailing it seems. He never sails out of sight of his dock let alone land. He has NO boat! |
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"Lady Pilot" wrote in message news:JXcaf.300$Kv.170@dukeread05... "Capt. Neal®" wrote: Bobsprit has the perfect boat for his style of sailing it seems. He never sails out of sight of his dock let alone land. Sounds like idle chatter to me... LP Matt 12:36 But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken. Proverbs 31:1-7 *** 3 Do not give your vital energy to women, nor your ways to [what leads to] wiping out kings. Amen! |
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"Bob Crantz" wrote: "Lady Pilot" wrote: "Capt. Neal®" wrote: Bobsprit has the perfect boat for his style of sailing it seems. He never sails out of sight of his dock let alone land. Sounds like idle chatter to me... LP Matt 12:36 But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken. Proverbs 31:1-7 *** 3 Do not give your vital energy to women, nor your ways to [what leads to] wiping out kings. Amen! Hahahaaaa! Do you really think Neal is a king? King Solomon, who was the son of King David by his wife Bathsheba, had 700 wives and 300 concubines. I see you are very good at perverting the Word of God too! I liked the last of the proverbs you quoted: 6 Give beer to those who are perishing, wine to those who are in anguish; 7 let them drink and forget their poverty and remember their misery no more. Be careful about perverting the Bible, the Lava Lakes will be full of false prophets! LP |
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"Lady Pilot" wrote in message news:JXcaf.300$Kv.170@dukeread05... | | "Capt. Neal®" wrote: | | Bobsprit has the perfect boat for his style of sailing it seems. He never | sails out of sight of his dock let alone land. | | Sounds like idle chatter to me... | | LP | | Matt 12:36 | But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for | every careless word they have spoken. | | Spoken? Here we are writing . . . chat•ter \"cha-t€r\ vb 1 : to utter speechlike but meaningless sounds 2 : to talk idly, incessantly, or fast 3 : to click repeatedly or uncontrollably — chatter n — chat•ter•er n © 1995 Zane Publishing, Inc. The Merriam-Webster Dictionary © 1994 by Merriam-Webster, Incorporated |
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"Lady Pilot" wrote in message news:mxeaf.314$Kv.312@dukeread05... Proverbs 31:1-7 *** 3 Do not give your vital energy to women, nor your ways to [what leads to] wiping out kings. Amen! Hahahaaaa! Do you really think Neal is a king? King Solomon, who was the son of King David by his wife Bathsheba, had 700 wives and 300 concubines. Before acting on the last of the proverbs, read carefully the first. "nor your ways to wiping out kings" in no way asserts Neal is a king. I see you are very good at perverting the Word of God too! Not as good as you. I liked the last of the proverbs you quoted: 6 Give beer to those who are perishing, wine to those who are in anguish; 7 let them drink and forget their poverty and remember their misery no more. Obviously you like and adhere to them. I'll pray for your poverty (of soul) and consequent misery. It is sad to see you stalking Neal. Despite your condemnation of him, the truth is apparent. Go to a 12 step program, get some help. Your life will get better. Be careful about perverting the Bible, the Lava Lakes will be full of false prophets! As long as I don't wind up in the same lava filled hot tub as you! Amen! LP |
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Bob Crantz wrote:
"Lady Pilot" wrote in message news:mxeaf.314$Kv.312@dukeread05... Proverbs 31:1-7 *** 3 Do not give your vital energy to women, nor your ways to [what leads to] wiping out kings. Amen! Hahahaaaa! Do you really think Neal is a king? King Solomon, who was the son of King David by his wife Bathsheba, had 700 wives and 300 concubines. Before acting on the last of the proverbs, read carefully the first. "nor your ways to wiping out kings" in no way asserts Neal is a king. Actually the meaning of the phrase is unclear in the original and the translations are just speculations. Another version is "Do not give your strength to woman, your vigor to those who destroy kings." This is one of those curious parts of the Old Testament that was probably not actually originally Hebrew. |
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"Jeff" wrote in message ... | Bob Crantz wrote: | "Lady Pilot" wrote in message | news:mxeaf.314$Kv.312@dukeread05... | | Proverbs 31:1-7 *** | | 3 Do not give your vital energy to women, nor your ways to [what leads | to] | wiping out kings. | | Amen! | Hahahaaaa! Do you really think Neal is a king? King Solomon, who was the | son of King David by his wife Bathsheba, had 700 wives and 300 concubines. | | | Before acting on the last of the proverbs, read carefully the first. "nor | your ways to wiping out kings" in no way asserts Neal is a king. | | | Actually the meaning of the phrase is unclear in the original and the | translations are just speculations. Another version is "Do not give | your strength to woman, your vigor to those who destroy kings." | | This is one of those curious parts of the Old Testament that was | probably not actually originally Hebrew. Much of the Old Testament has been superceded by the New Testament. In the sermon on the mount Jesus clarified many of the old commandments and expanded upon them. "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill." --Matthew 5:17 I think Jesus paraphrased the above statement about not giving your strength to women and your vigor to destroying kings when He said: "Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on Earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal" --Matthew 6:19 CN |
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Capt. Neal® wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message ... | Bob Crantz wrote: | "Lady Pilot" wrote in message | news:mxeaf.314$Kv.312@dukeread05... | | Proverbs 31:1-7 *** | | 3 Do not give your vital energy to women, nor your ways to [what leads | to] | wiping out kings. | | Amen! | Hahahaaaa! Do you really think Neal is a king? King Solomon, who was the | son of King David by his wife Bathsheba, had 700 wives and 300 concubines. | | | Before acting on the last of the proverbs, read carefully the first. "nor | your ways to wiping out kings" in no way asserts Neal is a king. | | | Actually the meaning of the phrase is unclear in the original and the | translations are just speculations. Another version is "Do not give | your strength to woman, your vigor to those who destroy kings." | | This is one of those curious parts of the Old Testament that was | probably not actually originally Hebrew. Much of the Old Testament has been superceded by the New Testament. In the sermon on the mount Jesus clarified many of the old commandments and expanded upon them. "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill." --Matthew 5:17 Certainly the Christian view is that the New Testament supersedes the Jewish Bible, but Jesus was speaking as a Jew in the Sermon on the Mount. He clearly said in the following verse: "For truly I tell you, until Heaven and Earth pass away, not one letter, not one stroke of a letter, will pass from the law until all is accomplished." By "law" he was referring to the Jewish ways. (Although, strictly speaking, the Book of Proverbs is part of "The Writings" and not "The Law.") This is one of those curious verses where everyone seems to derive different meaning. For Jews, it simply means the Jesus was a Jew, speaking to Jews, and expected everyone to continue following the Jewish tradition. Somewhat later, the Church decided they could re-interpret the strict meaning of Jewish law to suit the new theology. I think Jesus paraphrased the above statement about not giving your strength to women and your vigor to destroying kings when He said: "Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on Earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal" --Matthew 6:19 No, it is pretty clear Jesus was talking about material possessions, while Proverb 31 is the admonishment of a mother to a prince that indulging in women and booze is not appropriate for a king. |
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"Jeff" wrote in message ... This is one of those curious verses where everyone seems to derive different meaning. For Jews, it simply means the Jesus was a Jew, speaking to Jews, and expected everyone to continue following the Jewish tradition. Somewhat later, the Church decided they could re-interpret the strict meaning of Jewish law to suit the new theology. Party pooper! Gay avek! To the lava lakes for you! Amen! Oy vey! |
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Bob Crantz wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message ... This is one of those curious verses where everyone seems to derive different meaning. For Jews, it simply means the Jesus was a Jew, speaking to Jews, and expected everyone to continue following the Jewish tradition. Somewhat later, the Church decided they could re-interpret the strict meaning of Jewish law to suit the new theology. Party pooper! Gay avek! To the lava lakes for you! Amen! Oy vey! What's your problem? I thought you might appreciate the fact that I've actually read parts of the Bible and know a little bit about this stuff. Are you denying the the Church "accepted" the Old Testament but then said many to the commandments needn't be followed? Its clear that Jesus said the all must be followed. |
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"Jeff" wrote in message ... | Capt. Neal® wrote: | "Jeff" wrote in message ... | | Bob Crantz wrote: | | "Lady Pilot" wrote in message | | news:mxeaf.314$Kv.312@dukeread05... | | | | Proverbs 31:1-7 *** | | | | 3 Do not give your vital energy to women, nor your ways to [what leads | | to] | | wiping out kings. | | | | Amen! | | Hahahaaaa! Do you really think Neal is a king? King Solomon, who was the | | son of King David by his wife Bathsheba, had 700 wives and 300 concubines. | | | | | | Before acting on the last of the proverbs, read carefully the first. "nor | | your ways to wiping out kings" in no way asserts Neal is a king. | | | | | | Actually the meaning of the phrase is unclear in the original and the | | translations are just speculations. Another version is "Do not give | | your strength to woman, your vigor to those who destroy kings." | | | | This is one of those curious parts of the Old Testament that was | | probably not actually originally Hebrew. | | | | Much of the Old Testament has been superceded by the New Testament. | In the sermon on the mount Jesus clarified many of the old commandments | and expanded upon them. "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or | the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill." --Matthew 5:17 | | | Certainly the Christian view is that the New Testament supersedes the | Jewish Bible, but Jesus was speaking as a Jew in the Sermon on the | Mount. He clearly said in the following verse: "For truly I tell you, | until Heaven and Earth pass away, not one letter, not one stroke of a | letter, will pass from the law until all is accomplished." | | By "law" he was referring to the Jewish ways. (Although, strictly | speaking, the Book of Proverbs is part of "The Writings" and not "The | Law.") | | This is one of those curious verses where everyone seems to derive | different meaning. For Jews, it simply means the Jesus was a Jew, | speaking to Jews, and expected everyone to continue following the | Jewish tradition. Somewhat later, the Church decided they could | re-interpret the strict meaning of Jewish law to suit the new theology. | | I think Jesus paraphrased the above statement about not giving your | strength to women and your vigor to destroying kings when He said: | "Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on Earth, where moth and rust | destroy and where thieves break in and steal" --Matthew 6:19 | | No, it is pretty clear Jesus was talking about material possessions, | while Proverb 31 is the admonishment of a mother to a prince that | indulging in women and booze is not appropriate for a king. I'm curious which version of the Bible you are quoting from. CN |
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"Jeff" wrote in message ... | Bob Crantz wrote: | "Jeff" wrote in message | ... | | | This is one of those curious verses where everyone seems to derive | different meaning. For Jews, it simply means the Jesus was a Jew, | speaking to Jews, and expected everyone to continue following the | Jewish tradition. Somewhat later, the Church decided they could | re-interpret the strict meaning of Jewish law to suit the new theology. | | Party pooper! | | Gay avek! | | To the lava lakes for you! | | Amen! | | Oy vey! | | What's your problem? I thought you might appreciate the fact that | I've actually read parts of the Bible and know a little bit about this | stuff. Are you denying the the Church "accepted" the Old Testament | but then said many to the commandments needn't be followed? Its clear | that Jesus said the all must be followed. And, Jesus even made some of them more strict and clarified others. Jesus commenced the sermon on the mount saying, "Don't think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill." Then He went on at length expanding and explaining and contemporizing. Try to have mercy on Mr. Crantz. As a Baptist his understanding of scripture is somewhat biased and limited. CN |
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"Jeff" wrote: Bob Crantz wrote: "Jeff" wrote: This is one of those curious verses where everyone seems to derive different meaning. For Jews, it simply means the Jesus was a Jew, speaking to Jews, and expected everyone to continue following the Jewish tradition. Somewhat later, the Church decided they could re-interpret the strict meaning of Jewish law to suit the new theology. Party pooper! Gay avek! To the lava lakes for you! Amen! Oy vey! What's your problem? I thought you might appreciate the fact that I've actually read parts of the Bible and know a little bit about this stuff. Are you denying the the Church "accepted" the Old Testament but then said many to the commandments needn't be followed? Its clear that Jesus said the all must be followed. I appreciated your comments, Jeff. It's impossible to talk to CN about such things, he just slams down the phone or e-mails insults and want even listen to what you have to say about such things...when he's the one that asks the questions to begin with. LP |
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"Jeff" wrote:
Are you denying the the Church "accepted" the Old Testament but then said many to the commandments needn't be followed? Its clear that Jesus said the all must be followed. A two-hump camel is a horse designed by committee...... The Church did not "accept the OT". The "OT" didn't exist as a document until the Bible was compiled by a committee nearly 300 years after the man it calls Jesus lived. The Bible OT was compiled from several parts. The first and largest was redacted from the "Book of Moses" which was itself heavily redacted from oral histories circa 200 BC IIRC. The rest comprise some history plus legends supporting the coming of a Messiah, without defining what a Messiah is. Hint: Jesus was not a Messiah. Nor is it at all clear what Jesus said - it is only clear what others claim he said based on hearsay 50-100 years later. Christianity has little to do with the man we call Jesus. Saul invented Christianity in the midst of a grand mal seizure. When he presented his notions to Jesus' friends and desciples they tried to stone him for heresy. He was expelled from Judea and had to change his name to Paul to avoid assasination. That 'otta tell you what Jesus himself might have thought of modern Christianity. The fellow Greeks Saul was trying to convert wouldn't follow kosher dietary laws let alone mutilate their penises as required by OT rules so he had to abandon those "commandments". |
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