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Bart Senior November 1st 05 12:14 AM

Seamanship Question #23
 
How do you heave-to on a junk rig?



jlrogers November 1st 05 01:04 AM

Seamanship Question #23
 
One at a time.

"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ...
How do you heave-to on a junk rig?





Bart Senior November 3rd 05 01:55 AM

Seamanship Question #23
 
Doesn't anyone know the answer to this,
because I sure don't. Someone help me
out here.

"Bart Senior" .@. wrote
How do you heave-to on a junk rig?




Thom Stewart November 3rd 05 06:20 AM

Seamanship Question #23
 
Bart,
A good question. I don't Know? I would say drop sail and Helm alee?

OT





Scotty November 3rd 05 02:48 PM

Seamanship Question #23
 
How do you do it on a cat boat?

SBV

"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message
...
Doesn't anyone know the answer to this,
because I sure don't. Someone help me
out here.

"Bart Senior" .@. wrote
How do you heave-to on a junk rig?






DSK November 3rd 05 04:13 PM

Seamanship Question #23
 
"Bart Senior" .@. wrote
How do you heave-to on a junk rig?


"Bart Senior" .@. wrote
Doesn't anyone know the answer to this,
because I sure don't. Someone help me
out here.


I don't either. Have read a little about it, but don't know enough to
have an opinion worth typing out.


Scotty wrote:
How do you do it on a cat boat?


Now that I do know. You put the boat slightly above a beam reach, and
ease the sail out until it's flapping idly. The windage of the mast &
sail will tend to make the boat bear away as it slows, so you put the
helm down to keep the bow up. The boat settles down somewhere between a
close reach & close hauled, with the sail filling only slightly &
intermittently, with the helm fixed at an angle that keeps it close to
the right course.

One of the difficulties of cat rigs is that as you reef them, the center
of effort of the sail gets further forward and the boat doesn't balance
well. Same for heaving-to.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Scotty November 3rd 05 04:24 PM

Seamanship Question #23
 

"DSK" wrote

Scotty wrote:
How do you do it on a cat boat?


Now that I do know. You put the boat slightly above a beam

reach, and
ease the sail out until it's flapping idly. The windage of the

mast &
sail will tend to make the boat bear away as it slows, so you

put the
helm down to keep the bow up. The boat settles down somewhere

between a
close reach & close hauled, with the sail filling only slightly

&
intermittently, with the helm fixed at an angle that keeps it

close to
the right course.



Wouldn't it be the same for a junk?

SBV



DSK November 3rd 05 04:35 PM

Seamanship Question #23
 
Scotty wrote:
Wouldn't it be the same for a junk?


Sure. What was I thinking?!

A junk sail is different in that it's leading edge isn't supported by a
mast or stay, and it has heavy full battens. And one with a schooner rig
is going to have more variation in what you can do to get the boat to
balance on the course you want.

But yeah, basically it's just like heaving-to in any sailboat. You go
out in the middle of the water and umm... heave-to. Y'know.

DSK


Thom Stewart November 3rd 05 04:44 PM

Seamanship Question #23
 
Good Thought Scotty,

I've been "Hove to" many times in Cat Boats, I guess. A Cat Boat has so
much weather helm you just have to release the rudder and she'll come to
rest head to wind.

This is one of the reason they make great work boats. You can sail up to
a Lobster Pot buoy, release the tiller and she'll come to rest nose to
wind and wait for do your business, When your ready, just harden up on
the sheet and away you go. That is also the reason for the "Barn Door"
rudders.

Don't know if this would hold true for a balanced Junk sail?

Ole Thom





Peter Wiley November 10th 05 05:47 PM

Seamanship Question #23
 
In article , DSK
wrote:

"Bart Senior" .@. wrote
How do you heave-to on a junk rig?


"Bart Senior" .@. wrote
Doesn't anyone know the answer to this,
because I sure don't. Someone help me
out here.


I don't either. Have read a little about it, but don't know enough to
have an opinion worth typing out.


According to Tom Colvin, you can't heave to in a junk rig. They're
always sailing.

PDW


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