I suggest you google up what the Geneva convention says about spies.

Essentially, under the GC, the captives in Gitmo are spies.

Article 46.-Spies

1. Notwithstanding any other provision of the Conventions or of this
Protocol, any member of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict who
falls into the power of an adverse Party while engaging in espionage
shall not have the right to the status of prisoner of war and may be
treated as a spy.

2. A member of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict who, on
behalf of that Party and in territory controlled by an adverse Party,
gathers or attempts to gather information shall not be considered as
engaging in espionage if, while so acting, he is in the uniform of his
armed forces.

3. A member of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict who is a
resident of territory occupied by an adverse Party and who, on behalf
of the Party on which he depends, gathers or attempts to gather
information of military value within that territory shall not be
considered as engaging in espionage unless he does so through an act of
false pretences or deliberately in a clandestine manner. Moreover, such
a resident shall not lose his right to the status of prisoner of war
and may not be treated as a spy unless he is captured while engaging in
espionage.

4. A member of the armed forces of a Party to the conflict who is not a
resident of territory occupied by an adverse Party and who has engaged
in espionage in that territory shall not lose his right to the status
of prisoner of war and may not be treated as a spy unless he is
captured before he has rejoined the armed forces to which he belongs.


I would welcome a cited excerpt of the GC, saying differently and
describing the type of "warrior" OBL, AQ and fellow
travellers are.

Joe

Joe wrote:

I suggest you google up what the Geneva convention says about spies.


Are you suggesting that those captured on Afghan soil are spies?

Cheers
Martin
------------ And now a word from our sponsor ---------------------
For a secure high performance FTP using SSL/TLS encryption
upgrade to SurgeFTP
---- See http://netwinsite.com/sponsor/sponsor_surgeftp.htm ----

Fighting out of uniform for an army makes you a spy. The Geneva
convention is very clear on the matter.

Joe

Joe wrote:

Fighting out of uniform for an army makes you a spy. The Geneva
convention is very clear on the matter.

Indeed it is, from your own post "3. A member of the armed forces of a
Party to the conflict who is a
resident of territory occupied by an adverse Party and who, on behalf
of the Party on which he depends, gathers or attempts to gather
information of military value within that territory shall not be
considered as engaging in espionage..".

Even if the above were not true, nowhere in the Geneva Convention is an
act of combat defined as spying.

Now before you fly of the handle, I don't like what these miscreants
did, or stand for anymore than you, but if you arbitrarely imprison, or
excecute them without due process you become no better than they are.
Even Hitlers henchmen got trials.

Cheers
Martin

In article .com,
Joe wrote:
Fighting out of uniform for an army makes you a spy. The Geneva
convention is very clear on the matter.

Joe


Next time I get into an argument with she-who-must-be-obeyed, I'll
remind her of that.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com